Dersmikner wrote:
After reading a few threads about the Arab/Israeli conflict, I thought I'd share a story with you. Man, you won't believe this.
Yesterday I was walking down the street with a knife in my boots, and a gun in my briefcase (concealed carry permit), and a hateful sonofabitch jumped out of the bushes and stabbed me with a knife.
I was going to shoot him, but then I realized that would be disproportionate use of force, so I put the gun away and stabbed him back.
Absurd. Allow me to use this example to tell all the people who have used the phrase "disproportionate use of force" in the last two weeks to kiss my ass.
Know why I've never been shot by a cop? I don't throw rocks and Molotov cocktails at them. Know why I don't get the shit beaten out of me by big, mean, roided up assholes? I don't spit on them.
It's the same theory in all aspects of violent human interaction. If a man hits you in the head with a stick are you going to refrain from bashing his skull with a baseball bat because you think it's only right to reciprocate with like force?
I don't give a good shit if Hezbollah was shooting .22s indescriminately into Israel, that calls for a leveling.
Worse is the whining about "indescriminate attacks". In addition to not giving a shit about "proportionate force", I don't call what Israel is doing "indescriminate". Rounds were fired from up North, rounds will be returned to the same locale. Indescriminate would be firing rounds all over Hell and half of Iran.
You think those shitheads in Lebanon are using laser guided missiles that are aimed at Israeli military bunkers? They have no idea if they're going to hit a tank, a hospital, a church, or a Girl Scouts meeting. Those dumbasses can't even AIM those fucking rockets they're firing. They have NO IDEA where they're going to land. I've got a better chance to hit a target with a WalMart model rocket.
The next time I hear someone say that after Hezbollah launched 200 "wherever the fuck they land is okay with us" missiles, and the Israelis fought back, that Israel should take care to limit civilian casualties, I'm going to shit. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. The NEXT time Hezbollah "targets" an Israeli military objective will be the FIRST. Once a Katusha leaves the pad, it's got a general direction and not much else. No onboard guidance system, nothing. Point and shoot. Where are the objections about that from the whiners?
I'm reading these threads and some of them astound me.
1. Don't want to be an Israeli target? Fight back against Hezbollah.
2. Can't fight back against Hezbollah? Go to the government for help.
3. Government can't help? Get the hell out of a country that is run by terrorists.
So simple.
By the way, I suggest that the next time one of you walks in on your Mother/Sister/Girlfriend getting raped, instead of bashing the guy's skull in with a 2 by 4, rape him back. Yeah, that's the ticket. Just don't be too rough. Proportionate and all... proportionate.
Basically the only thing here that is different between the two is that while Hezbollah fired rockets at civillians, the Isrealies did not need to bomb civillians, innocent civlillians at that, even if they were living in 'suspected" hezbollah controlled areas. You dont bomb 20 civillians to get at 2 maybe 3 terrorists, its just not a good ratio.
While I agree with about 85% of what you said/typed i still have this to say: ahem...You need to take a happy pill, you slightly (very key word so dont get all hot and bothered) hot-headed yet almost same point of view as me dude.