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Nicholas Langdon wrote:

I've noticed alot of the same on these forums, its why i mostly stay away from the debate and serious talk section. alot of the time its like screaming at a wall. most conservative people on here seem to not be able to accept a good point based on the fact that it does not fit into their view of the world. and when they can no longer argue against a point they retreat into character attacks such as "liberal pussy" or other stereotypical shit.
its not that i blame them for resorting to character attacks, it falls into being a conditioned debate behavior in the states it seems. have you ever noticed the massive smear campaigns in every political race there. it has become a legitimate form of debate to most of them.

Hellfire(Fish) wrote:

Navyholdi99 wrote:

Nicholas Langdon wrote:

I've noticed alot of the same on these forums, its why i mostly stay away from the debate and serious talk section. alot of the time its like screaming at a wall. most conservative people on here seem to not be able to accept a good point based on the fact that it does not fit into their view of the world. and when they can no longer argue against a point they retreat into character attacks such as "liberal pussy" or other stereotypical shit.
its not that i blame them for resorting to character attacks, it falls into being a conditioned debate behavior in the states it seems. have you ever noticed the massive smear campaigns in every political race there. it has become a legitimate form of debate to most of them.

Nicely said.  I consider myself a conservative but one thing I can't stand is total partisan politics.  What's worse is what you mentioned above...when people resort to namecalling when they can't accept a good/legitimate point.  To me, though...it seems like some of the namecalling isn't so much a result of political outlook but one of immaturity...or a combo of both. 

Word.

- Navyholdi99

The one reasonable conservative out there

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-08-19 16:53:23)

Navyholdi99 wrote:

Nicholas Langdon wrote:

I've noticed alot of the same on these forums, its why i mostly stay away from the debate and serious talk section. alot of the time its like screaming at a wall. most conservative people on here seem to not be able to accept a good point based on the fact that it does not fit into their view of the world. and when they can no longer argue against a point they retreat into character attacks such as "liberal pussy" or other stereotypical shit.
its not that i blame them for resorting to character attacks, it falls into being a conditioned debate behavior in the states it seems. have you ever noticed the massive smear campaigns in every political race there. it has become a legitimate form of debate to most of them.

Nicely said.  I consider myself a conservative but one thing I can't stand is total partisan politics.  What's worse is what you mentioned above...when people resort to namecalling when they can't accept a good/legitimate point.  To me, though...it seems like some of the namecalling isn't so much a result of political outlook but one of immaturity...or a combo of both. 

Word.

- Navyholdi99

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

After taking part in some threads, in the debate and serious talk? section I was called several times as a liberal populist or leftist.  Well, I'm not american, but you could call me liberal.  I'm certainly not conservative.
But, why do a great number of conservative people in this forum call liberal people this way??
I came to the conclusion they were brainwashed by the neoconservative propaganda that sells that everyone that's not a conservative is a "communist" or terrorist lapdog.  If being a liberal is what it's writen below, then you can call me communist if you are happier, because I'm liberal.

In list form that's:

-liberty (i.e. freedom) is the primary polital value
-emphasizing the rights of the individual
-freedom of thought
-free market economy with private enterprise (taxed, of course)
-the power of government should be limited
-the power of religion should be limited
-rule of law
-free public education
-transparent government
-protection of the rights of all citizens
-open and fair elections
-equal rights by law
-all citizens should have the opportunity to succeed

The funny thing is many of the posters on these forums who bandy the term liberal about as though it's an insult would actually probably qualify as liberal themselves.  Just a thought.

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sergeriver wrote:

I came to the conclusion they were brainwashed by the neoconservative propaganda that sells that everyone that's not a conservative is a "communist" or terrorist lapdog.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-08-19 20:42:26)

Spearhead wrote:

fair enough

Capt. Foley wrote:

I realy shouldnt participate in this cause Ill probably just get flamed. But I do not agree with liberals on most things(if you can use that term as it means almost nothing today). I do not like how the fund social programs with the tax payers money, I do not like how the tollerate everything(you have to stand up for something in your life). I guess the main thing is that I can see some of them protesting the war with Japan after Pearl Harbor, just not something I can stand.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-08-20 05:44:37)

Last edited by Nicholas Langdon (2006-08-20 05:56:36)

Not wrote:

See there's a clear problem with the "Evil Liberal" as some of us Conservatives see it. By this definition posted, Liberals seek small government with limited power. That's the complete opposite of the Liberals that Cons like me consider to be the "Enemy". They support massive government and numerous social programs funded by the government. While it's true that they also support individual rights and rule of law, which I do as well, the statement that Libs support small government is only in ideology. In truth they're supporting a much larger government than most Conservatives.