BF2S Forums What do you think of Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld?

GATOR591957 wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

lowing wrote:

I don't blame you not wanting to talk about New Orleans any more, it is quite hard to defend people's lack of exercising responsibility for THEIR own actions, I will say nice try though. You at least tried intelligently, unlike shipbuilder and sergeriver, who can only come up with insults in lieu of a real response, to explaining why people didn't heed the warnings.

It really is almost like getting run over by a steam roller. They saw the steam roller coming for a week, was told that a steam roller was going to run them over if they didn't move, was ORDERED to move so you didn't get run over by the steam roller. Then after a week the steam roller ran over them, and now they are blaming the govt because they got hit? PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!

Also they were told the levees would hold, not to mention many of them didn't have the same access to transportation out of the area that the people who left did. Just something to consider.

They were also told the year before in a mock excercise that the levees would not sustain a cat. 5 hurricane.

Really!?? A whole year and yet the state govt. did nothing to fix them??!!..How much STATE money was allocated to the repairs?? I ask, because I did not look it up.

Last edited by lowing (2006-08-18 15:56:19)

GATOR591957 wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

I'd say #2 was more of a Freudian slip than a stupid comment.

Interesting! So you're saying that Bush subconsciously wants to harm our country.

If not, what else could you possibly mean by Freudian slip? Or did you use the term even without fully understanding it?

In reviewing his 6 yrs. I'd have to say yes.  You may disagree, however his track record speaks for itself.  Do you remember no child left behind and how much he was going to do for education.  Ask any teacher if they are further ahead than before his initiation of this project that has been left behind.  I believe his presence as a leader of the USA has hurt the American people and our reputation abroad.  Which if you haven't looked lately is suffering.  Like it or not we need the rest of the world.  Times have changed from the United States being the providers to the world to the United States being the consumers of the world.  The only way to turn this back around is through education.  Something this administration has neglected.

I think he just confused "turn the other cheek" with "...a blind eye"

GATOR591957 wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

I'd say #2 was more of a Freudian slip than a stupid comment.

Interesting! So you're saying that Bush subconsciously wants to harm our country.

If not, what else could you possibly mean by Freudian slip? Or did you use the term even without fully understanding it?

In reviewing his 6 yrs. I'd have to say yes.  You may disagree, however his track record speaks for itself.  Do you remember no child left behind and how much he was going to do for education.  Ask any teacher if they are further ahead than before his initiation of this project that has been left behind.  I believe his presence as a leader of the USA has hurt the American people and our reputation abroad.  Which if you haven't looked lately is suffering.  Like it or not we need the rest of the world.  Times have changed from the United States being the providers to the world to the United States being the consumers of the world.  The only way to turn this back around is through education.  Something this administration has neglected.

Is there any chance at all that the decline of education is directly proportional to the decline of parental responsibility toward raising their kids?? Any chance at all that is directly linked to the rapid decline of the moral fiber of our citizens and not necessary Bush's fault that our citizens are raising stupid kids.

We have literally taken the responsibility for shitty behavior of our youth away from the parents and gave them a convenient "medical" reason for it. We now say they are A.D.D. or some other bullshit syndrome. Then we drug our kids to control them...MIND ALTERING DRUGS, so our parents don't have to be bothered with discipline.

We now live in a country where a kid can hire a lawyer and sue their parents. We now live in a country where you can be arrested for child abuse for disciplining your kid in public.

I hate to break it to you all, but this decline was well under way long before Bush. So unless you are Sergeriver or Shipbuilder, you can't blame Bush.

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Lowing, this article I found in one major news site.  It may not be a proof, but I think it makes the point.

George Bush has started an ill-timed and disastrous war under false pretenses by lying to the American people and to the Congress; he has run a budget surplus into a severe deficit; he has consistently and unconscionably favored the wealthy and corporations over the rights and needs of the population; he has destroyed trust and confidence in, and good will toward, the United States around the globe; he has ignored global warming, to the world's detriment; he has wantonly broken our treaty obligations; he has condoned torture of prisoners; he has attempted to create a theocracy in the United States; he has appointed incompetent cronies to positions of vital national importance.

Now, would someone please give him a blow job so we can impeach him?

you really need to learn the difference between and ARTICLE of facts and an EDITORIAL of opinions

And you fuckin need to learn between those and a joke my friend, OMG.  Do you read other people's posts before giving such an answer? Read it and edit yourself although I quote you and you appeared like Bush in a campaign act saying BS.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-08-18 16:27:08)

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

you really need to learn the difference between and ARTICLE of facts and an EDITORIAL of opinions

And you fuckin need to learn between those and a joke my friend, OMG.

A joke??!!..........You have been talking like this for the whole thread. You did not intend this first paragraph as a joke. I was not responding to your second paragraph for obvious reasons.

Cmon, you didn't understand, although you are a joke yourself.   Two options: or you didn't read it at all, which explains why you always talk bullshit, or you are so <ironic> GWB <ironic> you didn't understand it, which explains why you always talk bullshit.  In conclusion, you always talk bullshit.

For people saying I don't give proofs to my allegations there you go.

http://www.thetruthaboutgeorge.com/

For the people who can not see the difference, between an editorial, an article and a joke here are the resources where these guys took this info from.

ABC News
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
BusinessWeek
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Citizens For Legitimate Government
The Democratic Policy Committee
Feminist Majority Foundation
Global Treatment Access Campaign
Human Rights Watch
Million4Roe
National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League
National Women's Law Center
The New York Times
Nonviolence Web
Natural Resources Defense Council
People for the American Way
Public Interest Resource Group
Republican Pro-Choice Coalition
San Francisco Chronicle
USA Today
The Washington Post
The White House
The Wilderness Society
Women's Enews

For everyone else enjoy it's very funny and sad at the same time.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-08-18 17:18:24)

sergeriver wrote:

For people saying I don't give proofs to my allegations there you go.

http://www.thetruthaboutgeorge.com/

For the people who can not see the difference, between an editorial, an article and a joke here are the resources where these guys took this info from.

ABC News
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
BusinessWeek
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Citizens For Legitimate Government
The Democratic Policy Committee
Feminist Majority Foundation
Global Treatment Access Campaign
Human Rights Watch
Million4Roe
National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League
National Women's Law Center
The New York Times
Nonviolence Web
Natural Resources Defense Council
People for the American Way
Public Interest Resource Group
Republican Pro-Choice Coalition
San Francisco Chronicle
USA Today
The Washington Post
The White House
The Wilderness Society
Women's Enews

For everyone else enjoy it's very funny and sad at the same time.

Well hell!!! If all I need to prove allegations on leftist bullshit is a website!!.......well HERE YA GO THEN!!!!

http://www.ihateliberals.net/

NOW WE ALL GOT PROOF!!!!!!!!!!.........now what??

Last edited by lowing (2006-08-18 17:38:05)

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

For people saying I don't give proofs to my allegations there you go.

http://www.thetruthaboutgeorge.com/

For the people who can not see the difference, between an editorial, an article and a joke here are the resources where these guys took this info from.

ABC News
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
BusinessWeek
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Citizens For Legitimate Government
The Democratic Policy Committee
Feminist Majority Foundation
Global Treatment Access Campaign
Human Rights Watch
Million4Roe
National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League
National Women's Law Center
The New York Times
Nonviolence Web
Natural Resources Defense Council
People for the American Way
Public Interest Resource Group
Republican Pro-Choice Coalition
San Francisco Chronicle
USA Today
The Washington Post
The White House
The Wilderness Society
Women's Enews

For everyone else enjoy it's very funny and sad at the same time.

Well hell!!! If all I need to prove allegations on leftist bullshit is a website!!.......well HERE YA GO THEN!!!!

http://www.ihateliberals.net/

NOW WE ALL GOT PROOF!!!!!!!!!!.........now what??

Homer, stop posting, you are a joke.  They should open a Lowing section, so you can post freely and nobody has to read your bullshit.

Edit: Btw I entered your shitty place and it's full of crap, the sources don't exist at all, look at the link I left and look the sources, every statement has a source.  You wanted proofs there you have proofs.  And one more thing, why don't you change your nick to Lowest?

Ahhhhh, I know I must be getting close again, when your rebuttal is, " your fulla shit" and the "insults" start again.

Last edited by lowing (2006-08-18 18:13:48)

lowing wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

lowing wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/18/germany.suitcase.bombs/index.html

looks like the peace loving Islamic radicals screwed up and people lived.

Yay lowing!

And it looks like the Cotton Bowl got themselves a mega-HD scoreboard.

http://www.hdbeat.com/2006/08/18/dallas … -scoreboa/

Unfortunately, neither has anything to do with evaluating Bush. Please keep it on topic.

Hugs and kisses,

The Shipbuilder

Ahh but it does have to do with Bush, aren't you spending this whole thread blaming Bush for terrorism and the current events of the world?? Well, this is a current event of the world, and also the reality of what Bush is trying to fight. Germany almost got terrorized TWICE, once was foiled a month ago and this one where the bomb didn't go off, luckily. Germany is NOT in IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN, the reason why you claim we are attacked. This war is global and Bush is trying to fight the good fight.

and please no hugs or kisses, I just ate.

No I am not spending this whole thread blaming Bush for terrorism and the current events of the world. I dare you to post a link to elsewhere in this thread where I have blamed Bush for terrorism and the current events of the world. I also dare you to show me where I have claimed that AFGHANISTAN is the reason we "are" attacked.

If you are unable to do so, you again prove that you are deluded... either a) simply making things up to fit into the way you think, or b) you have an imaginary friend telling you what he saw on his magic Internet Of Another Realm. Either way, you are off topic and I bid you please to talk about Bush. If you want to make another thread, go ahead.

Wet kisses and romantic nibbles on your ears,

The Shipbuilder

lowing wrote:

When I said "you" I was talking generally, and although I said "this thread" I was summing up all the bullshit from the left. If you are going to argue that you don't believe what I accused you of, then I will assume you think the war on terror is just and you support it 100%. I will also assume that since Bush has a perfect record for no more attacks in the USA, that you must support his efforts in preventing them.

But on a literal stand point, I will assume that I in fact can not quote you in my previous post. Since I have no doubt you had to go back and double check for yourself before you commented.

and please, CERTAINLY, NO wet kisses and nibbles

So no quotes then lowing?

Why are you lashing out, lowing? I'm not part of your battles any more, remember? My friend had a dog once that when cornered would growl and gnash its teeth at anyone - including its owners - whenever it felt threatened or ganged up on. Are you OK, lowing? I'm a dirty liberal, so I know a lot of psychologists and therapists who can help you with that.

And I'm also concerned because it sounds like your imaginary friend Georgie is whispering in your ear again.

"Lowing," Georgie tells you, "Lowing, everyone who disagrees with you is part of one massive liberal commie pro-terrorist Internet army, who think and act as one! You, lowing, you are the sole Braveheart patriot left defending the tattered American flag from a thousand liberal asses trying to shit on it! And your only defense is to keep Bush's name sacred. Now GO! Get thee to BF2S and fight the good fight!"

I have a perfect record for preventing terrorism too 
elect me

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

lowing wrote:

I am picturing you as you typed that

Whoa whoa lowing please... keep your masturbatory fantasies to yourself, especially if they involve picturing me at my computer. I didn't know my "wet kisses and nibbles" thing would get you all hot and bothered. I recommend casual encounters on craigslist.org, it's a great place to post "Closeted fortysomething Bush butch seeks boytoy with lucious liberal lips "

I seriously have no doubts that you frequent such sites.