Nah, he had some crazy religious views that he took from a ton of different places that I'm not positive what they were, but I know he wasn't a Muslim.the_hitman_kills wrote:
wasn't he? my bad.Ikarti wrote:
Tupac wasn't Muslim, either.
no ass i did not, what i edited. is there after the word edit. nice try, fag!AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Hah that you conveniently EDITED, it said ALL the first time, nice try.-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
i didn't say all, i said MOST, learn to read "mate".
LMFAO, Edit only appears at the bottom of a post that is edited, it certainly does not indicate what is edited, I read with my own eyes, it said all, I even made a comment to the contrary about it, because it was dumb. I like how you call me names too....wow big man.-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
no ass i did not, what i edited. is there after the word edit. nice try, fag!AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Hah that you conveniently EDITED, it said ALL the first time, nice try.-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
i didn't say all, i said MOST, learn to read "mate".
See how it says last Edited below. I edited something in the beggining of this post, so why isn't it showing that?? Hmmmm.
Last edited by AlbertWesker[RE] (2006-08-18 09:08:56)
you son are an idiot, i did not change it, believe what you will, idiots often have small brains and cannot believe truth. and yes i am, 6 foot three 210, and i give free facial reconstructions. need my address son?AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
LMFAO, Edit only appears at the bottom of a post that is edited, it certainly does not indicate what is edited, I read with my own eyes, it said all, I even made a comment to the contrary about it, because it was dumb. I like how you call me names too....wow big man.-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
no ass i did not, what i edited. is there after the word edit. nice try, fag!AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Hah that you conveniently EDITED, it said ALL the first time, nice try.
See how it says last Edited below. I edited something in the beggining of this post, so why isn't it showing that?? Hmmmm.
You can be as big of a man as you want and talk this son trash all day, you can't escape the FACT that I saw it say all, and I even replied to it with a post about Timothy McVeigh, if you are just going to continue to lie instead of just admitting to making a minor mistake, it really isn't that big of a deal.-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
you son are an idiot, i did not change it, believe what you will, idiots often have small brains and cannot believe truth. and yes i am, 6 foot three 210, and i give free facial reconstructions. need my address son?
I don't know why you're being such a baby about it. And who cares how tall you are, I'm 6'4" 190, probably with more muscle but WHO CARES, we're not talking about that, we're talking about a minor mistake that you made, just admit it and move on. God you act like your 12. I saw it say "ALL" I'm not believing what I will I fucking saw it.
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Dont worry just ignore Krazy, hes an idiot even if it said most 10% isnt MOST!!! so its fucking irrelivent hes still wrong! O and krazy if you want to bring height into this im 6'4" last time i measured and that was atleast a year ago.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
You can be as big of a man as you want and talk this son trash all day, you can't escape the FACT that I saw it say all, and I even replied to it with a post about Timothy McVeigh, if you are just going to continue to lie instead of just admitting to making a minor mistake, it really isn't that big of a deal.-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
you son are an idiot, i did not change it, believe what you will, idiots often have small brains and cannot believe truth. and yes i am, 6 foot three 210, and i give free facial reconstructions. need my address son?
I don't know why you're being such a baby about it. And who cares how tall you are, I'm 6'4" 190, probably with more muscle but WHO CARES, we're not talking about that, we're talking about a minor mistake that you made, just admit it and move on. God you act like your 12. I saw it say "ALL" I'm not believing what I will I fucking saw it.
Yeah I know, I even said it wasn't that big of a deal, its a MINOR MISTAKE, but he has to...defend his pride or some bullshit. It said all, he edited it, end of fucking list.Vilham wrote:
Dont worry just ignore Krazy, hes an idiot even if it said most 10% isnt MOST!!! so its fucking irrelivent hes still wrong!
no YOU read it wrong, it is YOUR mistake, and a mistake to keep calling ME a liar, I DID NOT EDIT THAT, I WROTE IT THE SAME WAY THE FIRST TIME, and vilham your 10 percent theory is hilarious.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Yeah I know, I even said it wasn't that big of a deal, its a MINOR MISTAKE, but he has to...defend his pride or some bullshit. It said all, he edited it, end of fucking list.Vilham wrote:
Dont worry just ignore Krazy, hes an idiot even if it said most 10% isnt MOST!!! so its fucking irrelivent hes still wrong!
Um no, The "Witch Hunts" as you so aptly put them happened in 1692 there was no fledgling democracy.JahManRed wrote:
FFS, what a racist you are Grape. Look into your own not so distant path. Burning women and children at the stake over religion. See that was a witch hunt started in a time of huge economic and religious upheaval in a fledgling democracy. The Muslim nations are only a couple of hundred years behind the rest of the western world. They should be allowed to develop at their own time. If they are left alone. Constant medaling to "help" middle Easterners is a thinly described resource grab, nothing else. This, "they aren't like us so lets make them like us" bullshit, is whats going to make the whole shit house go up in flames. American Christians were allowed to develop and grow and in a un-radicalize Christianity at their own rate. Now look, a Deeply religious man is running your country with Christianity affecting his every choice. So a book full of fire and brimstone obviously made up, is governing how your country is run. And you criticize the teachings of the Koran and ppl who follow it.
Sharia law is medieval yes, but so was Christianity 200 years ago. If Christians had been persecuted the way you wish Muslims to be now in your Call for a New Crusade (learned that from Bush huh?) they would be radicalized on a scale un seen, unless the world is stupid enough to listen to ppl like you.
Totally ridiculous post Grape. What respect I had for you is gone. And you ppl that give unequivocal support............. go get a brain and an opinion of your own.
Edited for spelling
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LOLOLOLOLOL-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
no YOU read it wrong, it is YOUR mistake, and a mistake to keep calling ME a liar, I DID NOT EDIT THAT, I WROTE IT THE SAME WAY THE FIRST TIME, and vilham your 10 percent theory is hilarious.
Ok whatever dude, my bad, I'm blind, but thats what I saw. Why else would I have made the comment about Timothy McVeigh????????????????????????????????????????????????
Lets just drop it and calm down, like I said its no big deal. And the 10 percent theory is a lot more accurate than anything you've said so far so chill karl. Now I know why your nick is krazykarl
Ohh very nice how you side stepped my post and the points made in. Nice debating style.|AIA| DAS wrote:
Um no, The "Witch Hunts" as you so aptly put them happened in 1692 there was no fledgling democracy.JahManRed wrote:
FFS, what a racist you are Grape. Look into your own not so distant path. Burning women and children at the stake over religion. See that was a witch hunt started in a time of huge economic and religious upheaval in a fledgling democracy. The Muslim nations are only a couple of hundred years behind the rest of the western world. They should be allowed to develop at their own time. If they are left alone. Constant medaling to "help" middle Easterners is a thinly described resource grab, nothing else. This, "they aren't like us so lets make them like us" bullshit, is whats going to make the whole shit house go up in flames. American Christians were allowed to develop and grow and in a un-radicalize Christianity at their own rate. Now look, a Deeply religious man is running your country with Christianity affecting his every choice. So a book full of fire and brimstone obviously made up, is governing how your country is run. And you criticize the teachings of the Koran and ppl who follow it.
Sharia law is medieval yes, but so was Christianity 200 years ago. If Christians had been persecuted the way you wish Muslims to be now in your Call for a New Crusade (learned that from Bush huh?) they would be radicalized on a scale un seen, unless the world is stupid enough to listen to ppl like you.
Totally ridiculous post Grape. What respect I had for you is gone. And you ppl that give unequivocal support............. go get a brain and an opinion of your own.
Edited for spelling
The "Witch Hunts"(as they are commonly know...happy now??) as I so aptly put them, happened on and off and to varying degrees across Europe from 1450-1750. And yes there were many fledgling democracy's during that time.
whats your point?????
The point was made, I was not debating the content of the rest of your post, I didn't think that slightly coherant rant deserved replying to, however, You clearly stated to ATG your not so distant path which I took to mean, American History. Also the term American Christians... I apologize if I mis-understood your meaning.JahManRed wrote:
Ohh very nice how you side stepped my post and the points made in. Nice debating style.|AIA| DAS wrote:
Um no, The "Witch Hunts" as you so aptly put them happened in 1692 there was no fledgling democracy.JahManRed wrote:
FFS, what a racist you are Grape. Look into your own not so distant path. Burning women and children at the stake over religion. See that was a witch hunt started in a time of huge economic and religious upheaval in a fledgling democracy. The Muslim nations are only a couple of hundred years behind the rest of the western world. They should be allowed to develop at their own time. If they are left alone. Constant medaling to "help" middle Easterners is a thinly described resource grab, nothing else. This, "they aren't like us so lets make them like us" bullshit, is whats going to make the whole shit house go up in flames. American Christians were allowed to develop and grow and in a un-radicalize Christianity at their own rate. Now look, a Deeply religious man is running your country with Christianity affecting his every choice. So a book full of fire and brimstone obviously made up, is governing how your country is run. And you criticize the teachings of the Koran and ppl who follow it.
Sharia law is medieval yes, but so was Christianity 200 years ago. If Christians had been persecuted the way you wish Muslims to be now in your Call for a New Crusade (learned that from Bush huh?) they would be radicalized on a scale un seen, unless the world is stupid enough to listen to ppl like you.
Totally ridiculous post Grape. What respect I had for you is gone. And you ppl that give unequivocal support............. go get a brain and an opinion of your own.
Edited for spelling
The "Witch Hunts"(as they are commonly know...happy now??) as I so aptly put them, happened on and off and to varying degrees across Europe from 1450-1750. And yes there were many fledgling democracy's during that time.
whats your point?????
Try some DECAF
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If that was not your meaning, what are you on about then? Be Specific.
My problem for those of you who feel it is just extremists. Where are the Muslim's denouncing these atrocities. I'll tell you where they are, hiding. So if you only have individuals shouting at the tops of their voices kill the infidels, with no one objecting, what should we believe? I really hate to say it but I may have to agree with the original post. Maybe it is time to put a stop to this. I would also agree that it is a time of crusades.
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Maybe you are blind and deaf to moderate muslims or maybe the US media sanitizes reporting so you don't hear about organisations like these:GATOR591957 wrote:
My problem for those of you who feel it is just extremists. Where are the Muslim's denouncing these atrocities. I'll tell you where they are, hiding. So if you only have individuals shouting at the tops of their voices kill the infidels, with no one objecting, what should we believe? I really hate to say it but I may have to agree with the original post. Maybe it is time to put a stop to this. I would also agree that it is a time of crusades.
http://www.freemuslims.org/
http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/03/Opini … _aga.shtml
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_art … st+terror+
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Re … p?ID=20933
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010201.php
http://islamonline.net/English/News/200 … le05.shtml
http://muslimsagainstterror.blogspot.com/
STOP FUCKING GENERALISING AND DEMONISING. DO YOU WANT A MUSLIM HOLOCAUST?!? Is that what you really want? Will that make you content?
It's getting ugly in here..
I hate to say it but it reminds me of things I've read and opinions of people, arguments between common people, in the years 1933-38, in Germany
as soon as the public accepts that kind of act it's time to step into the REAL time machine..
I hate to say it but it reminds me of things I've read and opinions of people, arguments between common people, in the years 1933-38, in Germany
as soon as the public accepts that kind of act it's time to step into the REAL time machine..
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If the extremists are such a minority in Islam, when then, is it so hard for the moderates, or the truly peaceful Muslims to keep the extremists in check? The KKK could be called extremists in our country, yet, they have been put down at their own rallies by Americans IN GREATER NUMBERS who do not support them. Now the KKK, is truly an "invisible empire".CameronPoe wrote:
Maybe you are blind and deaf to moderate muslims or maybe the US media sanitizes reporting so you don't hear about organisations like these:GATOR591957 wrote:
My problem for those of you who feel it is just extremists. Where are the Muslim's denouncing these atrocities. I'll tell you where they are, hiding. So if you only have individuals shouting at the tops of their voices kill the infidels, with no one objecting, what should we believe? I really hate to say it but I may have to agree with the original post. Maybe it is time to put a stop to this. I would also agree that it is a time of crusades.
http://www.freemuslims.org/
http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/03/Opini … _aga.shtml
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_art … st+terror+
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Re … p?ID=20933
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010201.php
http://islamonline.net/English/News/200 … le05.shtml
http://muslimsagainstterror.blogspot.com/
STOP FUCKING GENERALISING AND DEMONISING. DO YOU WANT A MUSLIM HOLOCAUST?!? Is that what you really want? Will that make you content?
If the radicals are so few, it should be easy for the world to ban together and defeat them so we can all get on with our lives, but that IS NOT the case Cameronpoe.
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because the extremists get all the air time. We don't know what it's really like there. In Nazi Germany, propaganda was the majority, just like it is today.
Lowing was sold. Don't be next.
Lowing was sold. Don't be next.
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Do you really not know what the dangers are to the world by these radicals??......You really have no idea??Spumantiii wrote:
because the extremists get all the air time. We don't know what it's really like there.
Nazis were defeated were they not??
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Ahhh I was sold...........I guess I should just stick my head in the sand with the rest of you, huh??Spumantiii wrote:
because the extremists get all the air time. We don't know what it's really like there. In Nazi Germany, propaganda was the majority, just like it is today.
Lowing was sold. Don't be next.
So your point is because Europe, US or any other country in the world has done wrong things in the past, we shouldn't care about atrocities happening NOW?JahManRed wrote:
Ohh very nice how you side stepped my post and the points made in. Nice debating style.
The "Witch Hunts"(as they are commonly know...happy now??) as I so aptly put them, happened on and off and to varying degrees across Europe from 1450-1750. And yes there were many fledgling democracy's during that time.
whats your point?????
So if they shoot people for being gay or learning to read, we should just say "Well, hey, we did some bad things too. Its OK, in another couple of hundred of years they'll learn."
Is that your point?
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
what? What could they possibly do? Another suicide bombing? Are you suggesting they're even capable of nuclear strike? You suggest grave danger to the world. What if you're just wrong about that? What if the real danger is the propaganda? The Nazis WERE defeated. Just like today's propaganda will be. Someday you'll be able to look back on this as being ridiculous. The biggest threat to peace is misinformation. This should be obvious. So many have been scared into believing this threat. Look at 9/11 and the aftermath. NOBODY has proven it was al quaeda. The biggest smoke screen of all time. You now have reason to perform genocide, and extract unbmeasurable profits from the venture. You SHOULD be scared of this.
Islam is not a threat. The pursuit of wealth, at any means, and gross misinformation is a much bigger threat. Changing civil laws is a threat. Tell me, are you more worried of a terrorist attack, or are you more worried about Islam? Be careful with your answer.
Are you more worried about being harmed yourself, or are you more concerned with the nationalistic nature of your country's pursuits? The answer to that Q should be yes.
Islam is not a threat. The pursuit of wealth, at any means, and gross misinformation is a much bigger threat. Changing civil laws is a threat. Tell me, are you more worried of a terrorist attack, or are you more worried about Islam? Be careful with your answer.
Are you more worried about being harmed yourself, or are you more concerned with the nationalistic nature of your country's pursuits? The answer to that Q should be yes.
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Lowing, some day we will reach the utopia where we always have the good guys are in power. But democracy is still flawed in many ways, which I will not discuss in this thread and risk derailment, and maby of the Arab countries are not even democratic.lowing wrote:
If the extremists are such a minority in Islam, when then, is it so hard for the moderates, or the truly peaceful Muslims to keep the extremists in check? The KKK could be called extremists in our country, yet, they have been put down at their own rallies by Americans IN GREATER NUMBERS who do not support them. Now the KKK, is truly an "invisible empire".
If the radicals are so few, it should be easy for the world to ban together and defeat them so we can all get on with our lives, but that IS NOT the case Cameronpoe.
Brazil took many years to overthrow the military dictatorship, even though the majority of the people were against it. My point is only to make it clear that the actions of ANY government in the world doesn't mean their population is behind it. Although I seriously believe the majority of the arab population is against terrorists acts, I don't have any polls to prove it.
Edited for spelling, I'm a bit drunk
Last edited by EVieira (2006-08-18 18:01:45)
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Yeah, we will all look back on Bali, London , Spain Tanzania, Nairobi, WTC '93, the USS COLE, Munich, Pan AM 103, Beruit etc........and just have a bigggggggggg laugh. good point spumantii. sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhSpumantiii wrote:
what? What could they possibly do? Another suicide bombing? Are you suggesting they're even capable of nuclear strike? You suggest grave danger to the world. What if you're just wrong about that? What if the real danger is the propaganda? The Nazis WERE defeated. Just like today's propaganda will be. Someday you'll be able to look back on this as being ridiculous.
I hope you are correct, but I see no evidence of such, especially after the disheartening article I posted last week on 10,000 or so Iraqis protesting in support of a terror organization with their new found freedom.EVieira wrote:
Lowing, some day we will reach the utopia where we always have the good guys are in power. But democracy is still flawed in many ways, which I will not discuss in this thread and risk derailment, and maby of the Arab countries are not even democratic.lowing wrote:
If the extremists are such a minority in Islam, when then, is it so hard for the moderates, or the truly peaceful Muslims to keep the extremists in check? The KKK could be called extremists in our country, yet, they have been put down at their own rallies by Americans IN GREATER NUMBERS who do not support them. Now the KKK, is truly an "invisible empire".
If the radicals are so few, it should be easy for the world to ban together and defeat them so we can all get on with our lives, but that IS NOT the case Cameronpoe.
Brazil took many years to overthrow the military dictatorship, even though the majority of the people were against it. My point is only to make it clear that the actions of ANY government in the world doesn't mean their population is behind it. Although I seriously believe the majority of the arab population is against terrorists acts, I don't have any polls to prove it.
Edited for spelling, I'm a bit drunk