BF2S Forums Things that effect America's "Freedoms" and our priorities of war?

SEREMAKER wrote:

ok ACLU is trying to defend their freedom of speech but by ACLU defending their freedom they give support to them too sexual exploit minors ( againt the law)
NAMBLA's goal is to end the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships by:

building understanding and support for such relationships;
educating the general public on the benevolent nature of man/boy love;
cooperating with lesbian, gay, feminist, and other liberation movements;
supporting the liberation of persons of all ages from sexual prejudice and oppression.

BAM Excellent point, If i had any karma left, you'd get it.  I'll give some later when it refills. 

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:

We should wage war against........Bears

chicago bears or polar bears


grrrrrr albert you beat me +1 to you my friend

LOL, back at ya, and damn those polar bears and their addiction to Coca Cola!!!

LMFAO, thats the funniest thing i`ve read all day.

Albert - I think one of us needs to start a ACLU thread and a poll to see how many ppl are against and for ACLU




* I tried +1 my friend but I got to wait little longer to pass that 24 hour thing but I got +1 for you *

SEREMAKER wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

People who are against the ACLU because they support the legal rights of unpopular Americans must be against the principles of the United States. I am proud to live in a country where an organization is willing to make sure everyone, even despicable types are processed justly and fairly under national law.

ok ACLU is trying to defend their freedom of speech but by ACLU defending their freedom they give support to them too sexual exploit minors ( againt the law)
NAMBLA's goal is to end the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships by:

building understanding and support for such relationships;
educating the general public on the benevolent nature of man/boy love;
cooperating with lesbian, gay, feminist, and other liberation movements;
supporting the liberation of persons of all ages from sexual prejudice and oppression.

You're avoiding the key issue here: America supports fair trials. You can't do this without supporting unpopular causes. What's more important to you, fair trials for Americans or doing EVERYTHING possible to debolish NAMBLA? Are you so angered by NAMBLA that you would do away with civil rights? Would you also support torturing people after they are denied a fair trial? By your logic, the American government is giving support to murderers and criminals by having a justice system where they are allowed to argue their case.

I do not agree that the government should be allowed to pick and choose who has the right to a fair trial. This goes against the basic tenets of the United States of America. Every murderer, every shithead, every hateful fuck who should be obliterated from the face of the earth deserves a fair trial for us to prove that he has broken the law and should be punished accordingly.

Personally, I support our forefathers' goals. I support civil rights for everyone, even people with whom I disagree. This is the American way. Americans who do not believe in these civil rights , such as those who can't see the service provided by the ACLU, should rethink their allegiance to this country and what it stands for, and consider repatriating elsewhere.

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

People who are against the ACLU because they support the legal rights of unpopular Americans must be against the principles of the United States. I am proud to live in a country where an organization is willing to make sure everyone, even despicable types are processed justly and fairly under national law.

ok ACLU is trying to defend their freedom of speech but by ACLU defending their freedom they give support to them too sexual exploit minors ( against the law)
NAMBLA's goal is to end the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships by:

building understanding and support for such relationships;
educating the general public on the benevolent nature of man/boy love;
cooperating with lesbian, gay, feminist, and other liberation movements;
supporting the liberation of persons of all ages from sexual prejudice and oppression.

You're avoiding the key issue here: America supports fair trials. You can't do this without supporting unpopular causes. What's more important to you, fair trials for Americans or doing EVERYTHING possible to debolish NAMBLA? Are you so angered by NAMBLA that you would do away with civil rights? Would you also support torturing people after they are denied a fair trial? By your logic, the American government is giving support to murderers and criminals by having a justice system where they are allowed to argue their case.

I do not agree that the government should be allowed to pick and choose who has the right to a fair trial. This goes against the basic tenets of the United States of America. Every murderer, every shithead, every hateful fuck who should be obliterated from the face of the earth deserves a fair trial for us to prove that he has broken the law and should be punished accordingly.

Personally, I support our forefathers' goals. I support civil rights for everyone, even people with whom I disagree. This is the American way. Americans who do not believe in these civil rights , such as those who can't see the service provided by the ACLU, should rethink their allegiance to this country and what it stands for, and consider repatriating elsewhere.

avoiding the key issue no I don't think I am, I see your point and agree we need civil rights but we shouldn't have the ACLU to fight, we have laws - what we need is stricter punishment and we need to enforce the laws

(my opinion) ACLU has done worse then good and I'm for the disbandment of them, they want to pick apart the Constitution that our forefathers put together

ACLU has dug themselves a hole they won't be able to get out, on 1 side of the coin they fight to help but flip it over and they are helping to tear apart America

The_Shipbuilder - lets take this debate over to this thread so we don't clutter up this one ---- I kinda feel like we have pulled away from the topic of this thread on freedom

oh on a side note The_Shipbuilder thanks for keeping this debate mature and level, I hate it when someone flys off the edge and ruins a good debate with cussing or irrational posts

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Kmarion wrote:

NAMBLA defends what it asserts to be the right of minors to explore their sexuality on a much freer basis. It has resolved to "end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships", and calls for "the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences.

Ok if you don't see this as eerily insane you've got issues.

+100

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:

We should wage war against........Bears

The Chicago Bears???

Or maybe the UCLA Bruins?

Anything associated with Bears period....Chicago Cubs, Chicago Bears, Polar Bears, Teddy Ruxbin, Grizzly Bears, etc, etc.

I know Im quoting myself again....but everything associated with bears except cpt.fass1, hes in the clear.....i forgot about his CareBears sig thingy.  No worries fass, your ok in my book....just dont let those care bears get too out of hand