Poll

Should the U.S.A. work on building up mexico

Yes26%26% - 8
No73%73% - 22
Total: 30
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
Mexico is located on our hemisphere and is supposly one of the worst places in the world to live..

Should the U.S.A. build Mexico up so we can sort of have an EU sort of continet and place the setting for 1984 to really take place?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

Negative
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Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6906|USA
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/15476.html

Maybe we will?

another article...

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archiv … _the_usa_/

Last edited by Mason4Assassin444 (2006-08-17 08:44:34)

CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799
NO. USA should do nothing to 'develop' any other nation other than to trade fairly with them and, if they need humanitarian or financial aid, give it to them if and when they are in real need for it. Let Mexicans develop Mexico. USA isn't the father figure of the world - indigenous peoples know what's best for themselves and they'll develop at their own pace. If you're sick of Mexican immigration then do what we in Europe do - ship the illegals back where they came from at the earliest opportunity!!!!
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7073|Denver colorado
we need to make sure smart people who usually cross the border illegally stay at their country so they can develop it.
smtt686
this is the best we can do?
+95|6874|USA
how can we fix that cess pool of kickbacks bribery lies and cheating.  Most of the people of this board want us out of the middle east and now someone thinks we should go help mexico??? no freaking way.  Fence it in dig a ditch and electrify and arm that land. Its there problem, let them fix that nightmare on their own.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6906|USA

smtt686 wrote:

cess pool of kickbacks bribery lies and cheating.
This sounds vaguely familiar. We have our share of the same....our cheats/liars/thieves are just better organized in our government than Mexico.
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7073|Denver colorado

smtt686 wrote:

how can we fix that cess pool of kickbacks bribery lies and cheating.  Most of the people of this board want us out of the middle east and now someone thinks we should go help mexico??? no freaking way.  Fence it in dig a ditch and electrify and arm that land. Its there problem, let them fix that nightmare on their own.
WOO!! yeah, we need to fix the border problem first. im tired of all those racist mexicans coming here illegally and telling me that america sucks. its not our fault their country is crappy enough for people to run away from it.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
Well I'm not saying doing what we did in Iraq I'm saying diplomatically assist Mexico a little more then we have so we can have a continental stablity much like the EU has.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ

smtt686 wrote:

how can we fix that cess pool of kickbacks bribery lies and cheating.  Most of the people of this board want us out of the middle east and now someone thinks we should go help mexico??? no freaking way.  Fence it in dig a ditch and electrify and arm that land. Its there problem, let them fix that nightmare on their own.
We have more of a stake in Mexico then we do in the middle east, and it would be way better for our country if we put more of our resources into Mexico then the Middle East. If we enproved their country it would make ours better.
M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|6974|Peoria, Illinois

CameronPoe wrote:

NO. USA should do nothing to 'develop' any other nation other than to trade fairly with them and, if they need humanitarian or financial aid, give it to them if and when they are in real need for it. Let Mexicans develop Mexico. USA isn't the father figure of the world - indigenous peoples know what's best for themselves and they'll develop at their own pace. If you're sick of Mexican immigration then do what we in Europe do - ship the illegals back where they came from at the earliest opportunity!!!!
You're my hero.
t3hhax
Banned
+4|6711
Mexico is a country themselves they can they can help themselvers.
captain_itchy_pants
Member
+13|6818
Lets fix the border first then see. We are already helping them by hiring illegals and them sending money to their families. I have nothing against Mexicans or any immigrant...I am one myself. But Mexico has programs on how to get into America that is funded by the mexican government. The money that is sent back is so helpful to a corrupt government that they are helping them get over the border. Fix that first then America should HELP them.

Cameron, I wish europe was sending them back to their country but it so untrue. Look at Ireland and the mess that is the refugee problem. They come in and get the biggest handouts in history. They get apartments, cell phones, medicial coverage, childrens allowance, even entertainment cash. WTF? Poor Paddy who has worked every day for 30 years gets nothing and if he says anything hes called a racist?!?!?!
Bertie is getting a huge kick back from the EU and Irelands sons and daughters are paying the price.
The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6744|Los Angeles

lavadisk wrote:

we need to make sure smart people who usually cross the border illegally stay at their country so they can develop it.
Interesting. What would you propose for doing so?
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799

captain_itchy_pants wrote:

Cameron, I wish europe was sending them back to their country but it so untrue. Look at Ireland and the mess that is the refugee problem. They come in and get the biggest handouts in history. They get apartments, cell phones, medicial coverage, childrens allowance, even entertainment cash. WTF? Poor Paddy who has worked every day for 30 years gets nothing and if he says anything hes called a racist?!?!?!
Bertie is getting a huge kick back from the EU and Irelands sons and daughters are paying the price.
The thing is the asylum seekers are getting kicked out after the asylum application process ends. No tear-jerking stories have permitted any illegal immigrant to stay here - a great achievement for politicians who are always asked to pander to the 'Deportation is Racism' brigade. We changed our constitution to make it even more difficult to get Irish citizenship (the 'must have one Irish parent' rule). The benefits the illegals get are far from luxury - it's barely enough to get by on, and when their application is eventually turned down: they're on a chartered plane to wherever they came from asap.
We have 100s of thousands of legal immigrants coming here right now from Eastern Europe and that is driving our economic growth by sustaining our ability to cater for demand for products and services. Ireland has long had a tradition of emigrating to go and work hard and make a living - the trend has now reversed completely and we now have an opportunity to reward others who wish to do the same as our ancestors. I won't begrudge one Pole or Lithuanian - fellow EU citizens - coming here to make a living.
Personally I think Bertie is improving in his manner of dealing with immigration, after a shaky start.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-17 09:18:30)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

CameronPoe wrote:

NO. USA should do nothing to 'develop' any other nation other than to trade fairly with them and, if they need humanitarian or financial aid, give it to them if and when they are in real need for it. Let Mexicans develop Mexico. USA isn't the father figure of the world - indigenous peoples know what's best for themselves and they'll develop at their own pace. If you're sick of Mexican immigration then do what we in Europe do - ship the illegals back where they came from at the earliest opportunity!!!!
Agreed.
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Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6978|California

CameronPoe wrote:

NO. USA should do nothing to 'develop' any other nation other than to trade fairly with them and, if they need humanitarian or financial aid, give it to them if and when they are in real need for it. Let Mexicans develop Mexico. USA isn't the father figure of the world - indigenous peoples know what's best for themselves and they'll develop at their own pace. If you're sick of Mexican immigration then do what we in Europe do - ship the illegals back where they came from at the earliest opportunity!!!!
POE '08

If they tried that here, there would be riots, and every politician that endorsed the policy would be voted out.

Viva Ireland.

I have 8 years left in the states, then I can live if I wish.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6825|SE London

CameronPoe wrote:

NO. USA should do nothing to 'develop' any other nation other than to trade fairly with them and, if they need humanitarian or financial aid, give it to them if and when they are in real need for it. Let Mexicans develop Mexico. USA isn't the father figure of the world - indigenous peoples know what's best for themselves and they'll develop at their own pace. If you're sick of Mexican immigration then do what we in Europe do - ship the illegals back where they came from at the earliest opportunity!!!!
Good Call!

Although in the UK illegal immigrants tend not to be deported. They do all get let out of prison though - cost Charles Clarke his job...
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799
That's what I don't get about US domestic policy. Why be lenient on ILLEGAL immigrants? I mean FFS! It's the LAW. Enforce it.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

CameronPoe wrote:

That's what I don't get about US domestic policy. Why be lenient on ILLEGAL immigrants? I mean FFS! It's the LAW. Enforce it.
Say hello to the ACFU..cough I mean ACLU

http://stoptheaclu.com/
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The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6744|Los Angeles

CameronPoe wrote:

That's what I don't get about US domestic policy. Why be lenient on ILLEGAL immigrants? I mean FFS! It's the LAW. Enforce it.
Too many businesses with political power depend on gray-area Mexican immigrants as sources of mega-cheap labor, particularly construction and meat processing.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
I think it's actually more of a scared thing... You're talking about 11 million of them here, that's could be the biggest army ever. Also in Harrison(I belive that's the town) Pensilvania they put laws up against hireing or renting to illegal aliens I would like to see where that goes to.
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6812|Oxford

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Mexico is located on our hemisphere and is supposly one of the worst places in the world to live..

Should the U.S.A. build Mexico up so we can sort of have an EU sort of continet and place the setting for 1984 to really take place?
Looking at how they've 'built' Iraq and Afghanistan I'd say no...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

cpt.fass1 wrote:

I think it's actually more of a scared thing... You're talking about 11 million of them here, that's could be the biggest army ever. Also in Harrison(I belive that's the town) Pensilvania they put laws up against hireing or renting to illegal aliens I would like to see where that goes to.
The ACLU is threatening to sue the City of Palm Bay, Fla. should it pass an ordinance designed to reduce the impact of illegal immigration in the city.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

RicardoBlanco wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Mexico is located on our hemisphere and is supposly one of the worst places in the world to live..

Should the U.S.A. build Mexico up so we can sort of have an EU sort of continet and place the setting for 1984 to really take place?
Looking at how they've 'built' Iraq and Afghanistan I'd say no...
It's not all bad man..
http://www.defendamerica.mil/afghanistan/update/
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