Poll

Should the Israeli government pay to rebuild Lebanon?

Yes47%47% - 63
No52%52% - 71
Total: 134
HM1{N}
Member
+86|6888|East Coast via Los Angeles, CA
Since Israel laid waste to all of southern Lebanon and many parts of northern Lebanon, should they be the ones to pay for the rebuilding?  If not, then who should?  Why?

You are welcome to discuss at length...
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|6887|Seattle, WA
No because Lebanon has already confirmed they will be granted as much money as they need from Iran to rebuild everything.

But more on topic, why in the hell should Israel pay for rebuilding civilian structures of a civilian population that has ACCEPTED and let Hezbollah infest and fester.  Well than Hezbollah or Lebanon needs to pay for the rebuilding of certain spots in Northern Israel even though the rockets didn't do too much damage.
HM1{N}
Member
+86|6888|East Coast via Los Angeles, CA

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

No because Lebanon has already confirmed they will be granted as much money as they need from Iran to rebuild everything.

But more on topic, why in the hell should Israel pay for rebuilding civilian structures of a civilian population that has ACCEPTED and let Hezbollah infest and fester.  Well than Hezbollah or Lebanon needs to pay for the rebuilding of certain spots in Northern Israel even though the rockets didn't do too much damage.
You DO realize that your signature explains Israel to a "T", right?
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|6887|Seattle, WA

HM1{N} wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

No because Lebanon has already confirmed they will be granted as much money as they need from Iran to rebuild everything.

But more on topic, why in the hell should Israel pay for rebuilding civilian structures of a civilian population that has ACCEPTED and let Hezbollah infest and fester.  Well than Hezbollah or Lebanon needs to pay for the rebuilding of certain spots in Northern Israel even though the rockets didn't do too much damage.
You DO realize that your signature explains Israel to a "T", right?
You do realize that you are wrong, they did not use force or intimidation for a political or idelogical change, the whole point of them invading was self defense........do you read the news?
HM1{N}
Member
+86|6888|East Coast via Los Angeles, CA

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

No because Lebanon has already confirmed they will be granted as much money as they need from Iran to rebuild everything.

But more on topic, why in the hell should Israel pay for rebuilding civilian structures of a civilian population that has ACCEPTED and let Hezbollah infest and fester.  Well than Hezbollah or Lebanon needs to pay for the rebuilding of certain spots in Northern Israel even though the rockets didn't do too much damage.
You DO realize that your signature explains Israel to a "T", right?
You do realize that you are wrong, they did not use force or intimidation for a political or idelogical change, the whole point of them invading was self defense........do you read the news?
You do realize I'm talking about the illegal occupation of Palestine?
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|6887|Seattle, WA

HM1{N} wrote:

You do realize I'm talking about the illegal occupation of Palestine?
You do realize that the topic of your post is Israel and LEBANON.  Where have you brought up Palestine and Israel being in parts of Gaza, Jerusalem, etc???  In fact Israel has been out of Gaza for awihle.  I'm sorry I'm not following your arguement very well here.
dhoar4
Banned
+151|6779|Forest Lake, Australia
No.  Lebanon are full of Muslim dickheads who have no goal in life, other than to help Al-Qaeda to blow up every normal nation.

To be honest, Israel should have kept it up.  The less lebonese we have in the world, the better...
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|6887|Seattle, WA

dhoar4 wrote:

No.  Lebanon are full of Muslim dickheads who have no goal in life, other than to help Al-Qaeda to blow up every normal nation.

To be honest, Israel should have kept it up.  The less lebonese we have in the world, the better...
I think that is a little to broad of a generalization my man, I agree with your first point, but not all Lebanese are pro Hezbollah/terrorists.  Hezbollah is the problem, not Lebanon.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799

dhoar4 wrote:

No.  Lebanon are full of Muslim dickheads who have no goal in life, other than to help Al-Qaeda to blow up every normal nation.

To be honest, Israel should have kept it up.  The less lebonese we have in the world, the better...
Any sympathy for the third of Lebanon who are Maronite Christians? Never mind.
dhoar4
Banned
+151|6779|Forest Lake, Australia

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

dhoar4 wrote:

No.  Lebanon are full of Muslim dickheads who have no goal in life, other than to help Al-Qaeda to blow up every normal nation.

To be honest, Israel should have kept it up.  The less lebonese we have in the world, the better...
I think that is a little to broad of a generalization my man, I agree with your first point, but not all Lebanese are pro Hezbollah/terrorists.  Hezbollah is the problem, not Lebanon.
Same shit...Different smell...lol
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|6887|Seattle, WA

CameronPoe wrote:

dhoar4 wrote:

No.  Lebanon are full of Muslim dickheads who have no goal in life, other than to help Al-Qaeda to blow up every normal nation.

To be honest, Israel should have kept it up.  The less lebonese we have in the world, the better...
Any sympathy for the third of Lebanon who are Maronite Christians? Never mind.
Hey you got rid of Che, thank god , I can't stand his ugly mug.  (Oh boy now you're going to put him back up)
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7001|Argentina
Israel should give help to Lebanon, since that's the best way to prove they want to end the war, and getting along with their neighnours, because if they want peace they have to accept each other, then Israel must help Lebanon.  This way, other muslim countries would consider Israel better. Too naive??  I don't think so.
lAgBlRhino
Member
+8|6944|Brisbane
Maybe Israel should pay to help rebuild Lebanon, and the Governmant of Lebanon should help pay to rebuild the parts of Israel that have been attacked by Hezbollah.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the hell am I saying....
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6781|Long Island, New York

sergeriver wrote:

Israel should give help to Lebanon, since that's the best way to prove they want to end the war, and getting along with their neighnours, because if they want peace they have to accept each other, then Israel must help Lebanon.  This way, other muslim countries would consider Israel better. Too naive??  I don't think so.
Agreed, but I do think they need to get rid of or atleast control Hezbollah. Then, I'd have no problem with it.

Hey, the allies did it for Germany in WWII, why can't Israel? I'm sure they could.
arson
Member
+99|6880|New York

HM1{N} wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

No because Lebanon has already confirmed they will be granted as much money as they need from Iran to rebuild everything.

But more on topic, why in the hell should Israel pay for rebuilding civilian structures of a civilian population that has ACCEPTED and let Hezbollah infest and fester.  Well than Hezbollah or Lebanon needs to pay for the rebuilding of certain spots in Northern Israel even though the rockets didn't do too much damage.
You DO realize that your signature explains Israel to a "T", right?
LMAO
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

How about Iran paying to rebuild Lebanon?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
arson
Member
+99|6880|New York

Kmarion wrote:

How about Iran paying to rebuild Lebanon?
They already are.
  http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/ … struction/


  The more money they can get the better because that place is destroyed.
EricTViking
Yes, I am Queeg
+48|6795|UK
Even better - get the USA to pay for all the damage.
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6868|Home of the Escalade Herds

EricTViking wrote:

Even better - get the USA to pay for all the damage.
Much rather have my tax money go towards rebuilding Lebanon rather then building more weapons for Israel.
EricTViking
Yes, I am Queeg
+48|6795|UK

PRiMACORD wrote:

EricTViking wrote:

Even better - get the USA to pay for all the damage.
Much rather have my tax money go towards rebuilding Lebanon rather then building more weapons for Israel.
Good call.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6887
only if the lebanese gov't puts a bullet in the head of every hezzyboy out there
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6805

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

You do realize that you are wrong, they did not use force or intimidation for a political or idelogical change, the whole point of them invading was self defense........do you read the news?
They attempted to force public support to turn against Hizballah (or Hamas in the case of Palestine) through collective punishment.  Regardless of their intent, that is terrorism.

Kmarion wrote:

How about Iran paying to rebuild Lebanon?
Here's a thought:

1)  Iran has limited influence in Lebanon through Hizballah

2)  Iran uses said influence to attack Israel by proxy

3)  Israel drops bombs on Lebanon, causing the populace to view Israel as attackers

4)  Iran rebuilds Lebanon, causing the populous to view them as saviours

5)  Iran will, of course, never attack Israel by proxy again thanks to their newfound pacifiism

Last edited by Bubbalo (2006-08-16 18:56:10)

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6887
collective punishment is the probably the best deterrent for suicide bombing.  when the suicide bomber blows himself and innocents up, whatever faction that organized the bombing is responsible for the family of the "martyr" for the rest of their lives.  its usually the neighborood locals paying for bills or connecting electricty through a generator or buying food.  Now,  when these suicide fuckheads do this shit, expecting that their loved ones will be taken care of, the IDF comes straight to the homes of the former bomber with a bulldozer.  the message sent "You blow yourself up and go to heaven, all your loved ones will be living in hell.  so if you really give a fuck about your family, dont be selfish and blow yourself up"


the threat of getting their homes bulldozed is not terrorism, i think.  Their homes wont get bulldozed if they never decided to be combatants.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-08-16 19:02:35)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6805
No, collective punishment causes the punished to view the punisher as the attacker, and the terrorists as defenders/guardians.  Further, regardless of effectiveness, doesn't it go against that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing you Americans are so fond of?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6887

Bubbalo wrote:

No, collective punishment causes the punished to view the punisher as the attacker, and the terrorists as defenders/guardians.  Further, regardless of effectiveness, doesn't it go against that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing you Americans are so fond of?
thats the difference between a warzone and a civil area.  its collective punishment because these are terrorists homes.  if they decided to no longer be a combatant in the war against israel, then their families wouldnt be collective punishment.  they made the decisions that put their families and neighborhoods in the crosshairs of the IDF, not the IDF. The community is not just as guilty, but they lend their support.  If haji gave a fuck about his loved ones, there would be no punishment.  Suicide is a selfish thing, knowing that your family will forever live in worse poverty after you press the kaboom button.

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