Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6781|Long Island, New York
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060814/wl … aholocaust

This is the most predjudice and blackhearted thing I've ever heard of, basically insulting 6 million deaths. Sure, you may say "It's freedom of speech" but doesn't the muslim religion (or the extremists atleast) not believe in that? Plus, I don't seen the danish newspapers making fun of a mass genocide anywhere. Also, if they're mad at the danish newspapers, MAKE FUN OF THEM, NOT THE JEWS, WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING TO YOU. I can understand if they don't like israel, but jews as a race? It's terrible. This is precisely why Iran's government along with all extremists need to be dismantled in GIANT global war, And would be why I would support going into Iran and invading.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6999|United States of America
OK Liberals, I'm waiting for you to bitch about this one like you did with the swedish cartoons.
xX[Elangbam]Xx
Member
+107|6941
So Miller you're not affected by...oh just look at m sig
sfg-Ice__
Member
+4|6896
Does this really surprise anyone?  Hell I think the Jews should raise up in arms like muslims did with that Ala Cartoon awhile back.
jord
Member
+2,382|6921|The North, beyond the wall.

xX[Elangbam]Xx wrote:

So Miller you're not affected by...oh just look at m sig
Looked at it,now what?
alpinestar
Member
+304|6839|New York City baby.
I would like to take a part in this fair and win some money, I do not think you need talent to win it just common sense.
xX[Elangbam]Xx
Member
+107|6941

jord wrote:

xX[Elangbam]Xx wrote:

So Miller you're not affected by...oh just look at m sig
Looked at it,now what?
Only affects non Nazis
jord
Member
+2,382|6921|The North, beyond the wall.

xX[Elangbam]Xx wrote:

jord wrote:

xX[Elangbam]Xx wrote:

So Miller you're not affected by...oh just look at m sig
Looked at it,now what?
Only affects non Nazis
I see,i must be a nazi now you have said it...

You know nothing about me,end of.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6908|NT, like Mick Dundee

I think they are proving their point quite well. Freedom of speech. Yes it is disrespectful and I disagree with it but remember, when in Austria freedom of speech doesn't extend to the holocaust (which is probably one of the points they are trying to get across). I honestly didn't care about the cartoons of Mohummad and co. that the Danish newspapers put out, but I'm not islamic...
Look at it this way, we publish something they find offensive. Now it's their turn to fire back.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6868|Home of the Escalade Herds
I am so sick of hearing about the Holocaust. I was having some coffee at Starbucks yesteray and low and behold, information about the Holocaust was written on the cup.

What happened was horrible, ok, we fucking get it.

How many times do you hear about the native indians that very nearly got wiped out? I don't even know how many died, all i know is that it was a shit load. I saw IndianScout writing that 20m of them died, looking for numbers but can't find any...unlike the Holocaust which i can find in 0.00001 nanoseconds.

I have lost the will to...care.

Also:

"An international contest of cartoons on the Holocaust opened in Tehran today in response to the publication in Western papers last September of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed. "We staged this fair to explore the limits of freedom Westerners believe in,"

We make fun of there god/prophet, what have you so this is there way of biting back. I'm guessing they didn't want to make caracatures of Jesus because he is a prophet in Islam iirc.
starman7
Member
+15|6968
They should test their own damn freedom of speech (guess how censored they are there).  Hypocritical assholes.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6908|NT, like Mick Dundee

starman7 wrote:

They should test their own damn freedom of speech (guess how censored they are there).  Hypocritical assholes.
I'm guessing... That the democratically elected government of Iran allows freedom of speech. Along with freedom of religion. They were just pissed that people could be insensitive, this is their way of getting back at the west.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6741|Texas
Hey, it's a cartoon. Let them do whatever they want. I can tell you one thing, the Jews won't be lining up crying about the publication and they won't be talking about hunting down the cartoonists and killing them. They won't be burning Arabs in effigy.

As long as the Muslims sit over there and do that woman-repressing, head-rocking, back-lashing, Christian-Jew-Infidel-hating on their own soil and quit blowing shit up, I don't give a good shit if they roll in their own feces and call it religion. I just plain don't give one shit if the whole place disappears, or doesn't.

As a matter of fact, I'd be for building an ass-ton of refineries, sucking Alaska and West Texas dry, trying like hell to find alternative sources of energy, and telling the Middle east that they can sell their shit to someone else.

I can tell you this with all confidence: If we pulled every single non-Muslim out of the Middle East, and quit buying their oil, and left them alone, they'd continue their takeover of Spain. Then it would be France. Then England. Soon they'd be forcing their shit on us here. Any Muslim or Muslim sympathizer who tells you that they aren't trying to turn this into a Muslim world is either lying, retarded, full of shit, or all of the above.

No amount of backing down will be enough. Until we're all Muslim, it ain't enough...
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US
Remember, it's only ok to mock Islam in cartoon format. Do it to the Jews and you're an ANTI-SEMITE
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6805
Ikarti, how dare you mock the double standard!
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6781|Long Island, New York

Ikarti wrote:

Remember, it's only ok to mock Islam in cartoon format. Do it to the Jews and you're an ANTI-SEMITE
The point I'm trying to prove is that they're taking shots at the jews and not the danish people. The jews had nothing to do with the cartoons, and they're just doing this because they don't like the jewish people.

I honestly could care less if they made fun of maybe Nazi Germany's invasion of Holland and how they fell, because that's basically an eye for an eye. To take a shot at not only jews, but Russians, Blacks and Gypsies and probably many other races as well is terrible.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6805
And how could they take shots at the Danes?  The most effective way to prove their point is the Holocaust.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

Poseidon wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Remember, it's only ok to mock Islam in cartoon format. Do it to the Jews and you're an ANTI-SEMITE
The point I'm trying to prove is that they're taking shots at the jews and not the danish people. The jews had nothing to do with the cartoons, and they're just doing this because they don't like the jewish people.

I honestly could care less if they made fun of maybe Nazi Germany's invasion of Holland and how they fell, because that's basically an eye for an eye. To take a shot at not only jews, but Russians, Blacks and Gypsies and probably many other races as well is terrible.
Were any of the cartoonists Jews is my only question on the subject matter. Besides, I bet none of the cartoonists would think about making a Holocaust cartoon because of the anti-semitic allegations they'd face.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6781|Long Island, New York

Ikarti wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Remember, it's only ok to mock Islam in cartoon format. Do it to the Jews and you're an ANTI-SEMITE
The point I'm trying to prove is that they're taking shots at the jews and not the danish people. The jews had nothing to do with the cartoons, and they're just doing this because they don't like the jewish people.

I honestly could care less if they made fun of maybe Nazi Germany's invasion of Holland and how they fell, because that's basically an eye for an eye. To take a shot at not only jews, but Russians, Blacks and Gypsies and probably many other races as well is terrible.
Were any of the cartoonists Jews is my only question on the subject matter. Besides, I bet none of the cartoonists would think about making a Holocaust cartoon because of the anti-semitic allegations they'd face.
That's the thing. They were making fun of extremism, not the entire Muslim race, which if I may point out only makes up for a low percent of the muslim population. It's basically a twisted view on the muslim religion, and is not what most believe in. Making fun of the entire muslim race? That, even I'd get pissed at. So yes, if they made fun of the entire Jewish race, I'd claim anti-semitism as well.

I don't know if any of the cartoonists were jewish. If they were, this puts a better understanding on this. Feel free to find out and tell me, though, because it wouldn't make a difference and I'm not bothering to go look. Like I said, it'd put a better explanation on this all.

Edit: Fixed percentages because people like to bitch over the smallest thins.

Last edited by Poseidon (2006-08-15 22:29:35)

Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US
Where does this 10% figure keep coming from?
Wreckognize
Member
+294|6728

PRiMACORD wrote:

I am so sick of hearing about the Holocaust. I was having some coffee at Starbucks yesteray and low and behold, information about the Holocaust was written on the cup.

What happened was horrible, ok, we fucking get it.

How many times do you hear about the native indians that very nearly got wiped out? I don't even know how many died, all i know is that it was a shit load. I saw IndianScout writing that 20m of them died, looking for numbers but can't find any...unlike the Holocaust which i can find in 0.00001 nanoseconds.

I have lost the will to...care.

Also:

"An international contest of cartoons on the Holocaust opened in Tehran today in response to the publication in Western papers last September of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed. "We staged this fair to explore the limits of freedom Westerners believe in,"

We make fun of there god/prophet, what have you so this is there way of biting back. I'm guessing they didn't want to make caracatures of Jesus because he is a prophet in Islam iirc.
Exactly. Stalin killed around 20 million, but are we learning about Lavrentiy Beria in school?  No, it's always Himmler and Hitler.
-=CB=-krazykarl
not always PWD, but usually.
+95|6779|Carlsbad, CA, USA

ha ha.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6781|Long Island, New York

Ikarti wrote:

Where does this 10% figure keep coming from?
It's what I've heard. Probably not PRECISELY correct, but it's near it.
eagles1106
Member
+269|6827|Marlton, New Jersey.
wow
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6868|Home of the Escalade Herds

Poseidon wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Where does this 10% figure keep coming from?
It's what I've heard. Probably not PRECISELY correct, but it's near it.
That would mean around 150 million fanatical Muslims. Thats a shitload of 'terrorists'.

I really doubt that is even close to the real number. I'm guessing it's around a 1-4%.

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