BF2S Forums Your Opinion is need on proposed Server Rules

Your poll seem to be nonsensical, since there is no yes/no caption.

It's his server, he can do what he pleases. But why ban when a kick would suffice? And the rules are pretty verbose, considering the low level of information in them.

Starfleet1403 wrote:

2. No Attacks on Main Bases and USS Essex. We won’t tolerate Attacks by Artillery, Infantry, Ground Vehicles and/or Aircraft. But we will tolerate Spec Ops sneaking into an enemy Main Base in order to destroy Commander Assets. We will also tolerate the theft of Vehicles, if the thief leaves immediately.

A lot of words to say "No attacks on uncappable bases except on commander assets".

Dogfights beginning outside of a Main Base may be continued over the Main Base at your own risk (Anti-Aircraft on the Ground).

Everyone knows this. Dogfights are not attacks on base.

3. TK-Punishing is off, as many Players fanatically punish accidental TKs. But be adviced, that we won’t tolerate TKilling on purpose. It doesn’t mind, if you’re in need of a Vehicle or just Nuts.

This is not even a rule. You are just stating a fact. Besides, TK-punish may not be off on a ranked server according to EA's ROE 2.2.3.

Anyone TKilling on purpose will be severely punished.

"Severely punished" like in "we're coming to you house and beat you up", or "severely punished" like in "you're not allowed to play with us anymore"?

Cut to the chase and say "No purposely team killing."

4. We like Teamwork and can’t stand lone wolves. So please form or join Squads, for the Commander needs Troops to command. Please follow your Commanders Orders. Even when they don’t seem to make sense at first. Anyone who is constantly disobedient, will be punished.

I hafta disagree here. JG1567JG put it well, but another problem is that as a commander, you cannot withdraw a current order without creating one. So either an obsolete order stays or a new order, not necessarily a crucial one, is issued. However, if you do accept an order, follow it.

5. The Commander concentrates on his Task to Command. In an emergency, he is allowed to repair his Assets and help in the defence of a Base. Under no circumstances is he allowed to use Vehicles and/or Aircraft. It doesn’t mind whether he’s the Driver/Pilot or not. If caught, he will be punished.

I disagree. The commander should be the best judge of what's appropriate to do in order to help his team, not the admin. I agree that you can't command if you're piloting a chopper, but a commander must be allowed to move on the battlefield. On a 16-player map, IMHO, the commander must even be ready to fight.

The key point is that as a commander: command or resign.

6. We can’t stand Bunny Hoppers, because you wouldn't jump around like a maniac, if getting shot at in real life! So just stop it.

I hate bunnyhopping as mush as the next guy, but please, any reference to "real life" is just plain stupid. What's next, you have to actually land the plane in order to resupply, because IRL you can't just resupply on the fly. And let's not talk about medics -- a little jolt on a dead (or 15 seconds from death) guys foot and he's not only alive, but also back on 100% health. ;-) Nah.

7. Paratroopers may not engage the enemy while being in the Air. Vice versa they may not be engaged while dropping from the sky. As soon as they touch the ground, they may resume fighting and may be engaged as well.

If you could disable their weapons and make them invulnerable while in flight, fine, but otherwise I really don't see the point. This is a game, not the Geneva Convention.

8. Hacking / Cheating / Glitching / Stats Padding. Anyone who feels the need of hacking, cheating, glitching and/or Stats Padding will be severely punished.

Goes without saying. Anyone doing that know it is not allowed and won't care about your rules anyway. Just ban.

9. Spawncamping, in our opinion, is just another form of Cowardice. We agree, that spawncamping seems inevitable, if the enemy has been driven back to one last capturable base. In that Case go ahead, capture the Flag and win the round. We won’t tolerate spawncamping on purpose. If you wait outside the last Base in order to slaughter your enemy and boost your Score, we will see it as Stats Padding and punish you.

Like JG1567JG said, this rule is a bit fluffy. If someone is providing cover fire for his flag-attacking teammates, is he spawncamping? According to this rule he is.

10.There will be no debates on these Rules in game. Anyone who debates these rules in game, because he didn't care to read them first will be punished.

A debate require more people. If nobody responds, there is no debate. Also: are other kinds of debates ok? Let's debate Descartes' view on Dualism. Global Warming? Coke vs Pepsi? ;-) Meaningless rule.

Bottom Line: More rules doesn't mean better game. If you have problem with a behavior, consider setting up a rule that deals with. But not until it has become a problem. IMO the only rules you need are:

1. No insulting, discriminating or racist statements or player names.
2. No attacks on uncappable bases except on commander assets.
3. No purposely team killing.

That's it. No one can miss that, and it capture's the essence of a fun game. Kick for one offence. 10-min ban for second offence, permban for third offence or any kind of hacking.

/Xombie

Have no rules and just kick people who piss you off.

usmarine2005 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

LOL.  It is a great weapon, that is if you shoot the enemy with it.

sometimes, there are real noobs flying, and you have to kill em b4 you get baseraped.

AYE

like me! oy! me and the blokes from BF2s where fixn to play a around of BF2 and me and the mates be playin and i find me self a noice ole jet and i c a bloody ninja come up i am like oy what in bloody hell art u doin and the fuckin ninja fucking ninja a fricking mate from down unda




sorry not trying to offend but hell i like talking like that

The racist/warmongering thing is so much up to interpretation, so I'll have to disagree with that rule.

For instance, my game nick is "Sturmpanzerjager". This means Storm/Assault Armor Trooper. Nothing racist about that, right?

The fact that I chose a German military name as my nick is simple:

-It sounds angry
-It's long, hence fun!
-BF2 is a 1st person shooter / war game.

No, I am not a nazi.
Yes, I have been kicked several times for my nick.
Yes, it bothers me.
No, I'm still not a nazi/racist/fascist, nor will I ever be one.
No, I won't create a new account at 25 000 points.

I'd understand if my nick was "Hitler" or "DeathToInsertSuitableEthnicGroupHere", but it isn't. See, it's just not  me to be a racist. I'll leave that task to the uneducated dumb sods who obviously have no real intellect in their pea-sized brains.

1. No racist. Warmongering, sure.
2. Basically the same as 1.
3. Duh. Unless its some noob that constantly gets into a helicopter, and crashes, or dies immediatley once at shore. Then they get killed. Singleplayer is there for a reason.
4. No. 80% of commanders are idiots.
5. No. For so many reasons.
6. No. Bunnyhopping is fine. Prone spamming is gay though. Macros/Pronespammers = kick.
7. Uh, no.
8. Yes.
9. No  spawncamping until all flags are capped.

No for everything but No hacking

DonFck wrote:

The racist/warmongering thing is so much up to interpretation, so I'll have to disagree with that rule.

For instance, my game nick is "Sturmpanzerjager". This means Storm/Assault Armor Trooper. Nothing racist about that, right?

The fact that I chose a German military name as my nick is simple:

-It sounds angry
-It's long, hence fun!
-BF2 is a 1st person shooter / war game.

No, I am not a nazi.
Yes, I have been kicked several times for my nick.
Yes, it bothers me.
No, I'm still not a nazi/racist/fascist, nor will I ever be one.
No, I won't create a new account at 25 000 points.

I'd understand if my nick was "Hitler" or "DeathToInsertSuitableEthnicGroupHere", but it isn't. See, it's just not  me to be a racist. I'll leave that task to the uneducated dumb sods who obviously have no real intellect in their pea-sized brains.

the same asshat crowd I hate.   Jealous noobs kick for any reason

7. Paratroopers may not engage the enemy while being in the Air. Vice versa they may not be engaged while dropping from the sky. As soon as they touch the ground, they may resume fighting and may be engaged as well.
Punishment: one hour ban.

That's just dumb.

The only rules my server enforces are against racism, hacking/glitching/blatant statpadding and Teamkilling/Forcing TK's, and flat out refusing to play as a member of your team (For example the idiot in the J-10 with 16 people in the game while the chinese team has no flags and there are no USMC targets for it to shoot down), and being rude to clan members/admins.


They're very simple rules to follow and we have very few trouble players. The only people that give us any issues are the casual noobs who can't manage to spawn elsewhere and would rather just swear at us than try to get another flag or move out of our way. Other than that, once we get our server started, it stays up until 1.3 crashes it and there are quite a few players who have actually joined every single night we've had it active.

When it comes to your server, think about the type of players you want there. My clan plays BF2 a little more cutthroat than your typical Gunnery Sgt with a Napoleon complex, and we get a lot of players that can take a beating with a cool head. The 14 year olds playing on their older brother's Alienware never last long there and make their way on to whatever Pistol/Knife server they inhabit and we never hear from them again.

Last edited by Not (2006-08-14 13:19:14)

Starfleet1403 wrote:

Thanks a lot to all of you.

I hoped that much input. I will relay to my friend and I think he might rethink his Server Rules.

BTW, my friend told me that Rule 7 is a real life rule. He said something about Geneva Conventions. Couldn't verify that. But we already learned that it contradicts the U.S. LOAC.

Thanks again for your opinions.

Yeah the U.S LOAC does state that if a pilot or aircrew etc. are escaping a downed aircraft you cannot fire upon them coming down unless they fire upon you. If they are bailing just to bail and fight or whatever you can attack them.......However if you are going with that then you also wouldn't be able to shoot a Medic that didn't attack first....like many said already this is a game lol