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2006-08-09 00:31:14
The_Shipbuilder
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Tonight Joe Lieberman lost the Connecticut state democratic primary election.

Joe Lieberman is the current senator from the state. Normally, it's almost impossible to lose the primary election (where people choose which democrat to run in the next election against other party's candidates).

But Joe Lieberman lost, because he was in favor of invading Iraq.

It's starting to look reeeeeal bad for the Republicans right now.

"Three-term Sen. Joe Lieberman fell to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont in Connecticut's Democratic primary Tuesday, a race seen as a harbinger of sentiment over the conflict that has claimed the lives of more than 2,500 U.S. troops in Iraq."

"Lieberman's loss made him only the fourth incumbent senator to lose a primary since 1980."

Ouch.

Also, Lieberman's web site went down today. His team initially blamed followers of the other candidate, Ned Lamont, for hacking the site and bringing it down. But it came out that Lieberman was paying $15/month for web hosting for his $15million campaign. Not even the National Review was buying the story.

Oops.

Thoughts? Eloquent opinions?
2006-08-09 00:40:50
CameronPoe
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The_Shipbuilder wrote:

Tonight Joe Lieberman lost the Connecticut state democratic primary election.

Joe Lieberman is the current senator from the state. Normally, it's almost impossible to lose the primary election (where people choose which democrat to run in the next election against other party's candidates).

But Joe Lieberman lost, because he was in favor of invading Iraq.

It's starting to look reeeeeal bad for the Republicans right now.

"Three-term Sen. Joe Lieberman fell to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont in Connecticut's Democratic primary Tuesday, a race seen as a harbinger of sentiment over the conflict that has claimed the lives of more than 2,500 U.S. troops in Iraq."

"Lieberman's loss made him only the fourth incumbent senator to lose a primary since 1980."

Ouch.

Also, Lieberman's web site went down today. His team initially blamed followers of the other candidate, Ned Lamont, for hacking the site and bringing it down. But it came out that Lieberman was paying $15/month for web hosting for his $15million campaign. Not even the National Review was buying the story.

Oops.

Thoughts? Eloquent opinions?
Congratulations Ned Lamont. The Democrat party is the lesser of two evils in the US. Let's hope this bodes well for the upcoming mid-term elections. Anything is preferable to the Republican party.
2006-08-09 00:59:28
The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6743|Los Angeles

CameronPoe wrote:

Congratulations Ned Lamont. The Democrat party is the lesser of two evils in the US. Let's hope this bodes well for the upcoming mid-term elections. Anything is preferable to the Republican party.
Poe do you know anything about Russ Feingold? I look at him and he seems like someone that would actually be worth voting for, as in voting for HIM versus just voting against the Republican party. But I'm curious to know if anyone knows him outside of Americans?

If not:

- he was the only senator to call bullshit on the Patriot Act in 2001
- he was one of 23 senators to vote against invading Iraq
- he was the only Democratic senator to vote against a motion to dismiss Congress' 1998-1999 impeachment case of President Bill Clinton.
- he worked for 7 years with McCain to pass a bill to severely reform and curtail campaign financing for both Democrats and Republicans

A few of these pissed off Republicans and Democrats alike. What these things say to me is that he cares more about his own value system, than with scoring points in Washington with his party or with lobbyists.
2006-08-09 01:19:53
CameronPoe
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The_Shipbuilder wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Congratulations Ned Lamont. The Democrat party is the lesser of two evils in the US. Let's hope this bodes well for the upcoming mid-term elections. Anything is preferable to the Republican party.
Poe do you know anything about Russ Feingold? I look at him and he seems like someone that would actually be worth voting for, as in voting for HIM versus just voting against the Republican party. But I'm curious to know if anyone knows him outside of Americans?

If not:

- he was the only senator to call bullshit on the Patriot Act in 2001
- he was one of 23 senators to vote against invading Iraq
- he was the only Democratic senator to vote against a motion to dismiss Congress' 1998-1999 impeachment case of President Bill Clinton.
- he worked for 7 years with McCain to pass a bill to severely reform and curtail campaign financing for both Democrats and Republicans

A few of these pissed off Republicans and Democrats alike. What these things say to me is that he cares more about his own value system, than with scoring points in Washington with his party or with lobbyists.
I have never heard of him I'm afraid. The problem with good characters who stand by a decent value system though is that they are often unelectable. He sounds like he woulnd't have a wide enough support base even among his own party - making becoming the presidential candidate difficult. The race for president is also extremely underhand and amounts to throwing money at your own propaganda machine and using group psychology techniques to sway floating votes in critical swing states. It's a shame - if the US had proportional representation and a multi-party government like we do here in Ireland then US politics might not be so polarised and corrupt.

 

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