jonsimon
Member
+224|6738
Wasn't it the conservatives that recently funded state sponsered education?

C'mon guys, this isnt a "whos penis is bigger, conservatives or liberals?" thread. Go make one if you want, but get off your goddamn high horses.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6793|Southeastern USA
???
wha?
that's terribly vague, what are you getting at?
I was referencing the fact that libs are who so vehemently oppose privatizing the education system, even though it would remain free
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6793|Southeastern USA

SealXo wrote:

Come on your all bitching about cutting off lebanons supplies? When they PROVOKED the war and started it.

(Dont say hezbollah isnt lebanon , its part of their gov like the KGB)

What do you think would have heppened if we didnt bomb the Axis's supply lines in world war 2? Hmm? I sure as hell know. We would have lost teh Goddamn war.

I say I LOVE JEWS because THEY are doing what AMERICAS not. We are GIVING Al Queda Supplies (We buy the oil which is the money funded ot them). So i say. BRAVO Israel for using the correct strategy.

So the point is. It's fukin' war son. Get over it,  It's strategy

They need to do whatever is nessessary, to unarm hezbollah so they don't get anihaliated. It's that simple they are playing ball.

We bombed Japan, but its what we needed to do. I say hell its better THEM than US
Holy topic batman!!
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6908|NT, like Mick Dundee

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Oh yeah that's right - I have to give a Sieg Heil everytime I see Bush on the TV. 'Doesn't work one way' - I think you'll find the status quo is working just fine. Let's keep it that way.
Was reffering to your logic. If you aren't likely to become fascist while conservative why the hell would America be likely to become communist under a "liberal" government.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6793|Southeastern USA
well right now the extreme wing of the lib party is in control of it, and they are the ones pushing socio-communist agendas like Hillary and her socialized medicine, granted not all dems are communist, some fought vehemently against it, but they are not the ones in control
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America

kr@cker wrote:

well right now the extreme wing of the lib party is in control of it, and they are the ones pushing socio-communist agendas like Hillary and her socialized medicine, granted not all dems are communist, some fought vehemently against it, but they are not the ones in control
QFE
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6844|132 and Bush

chittydog wrote:

Hezbollah is NOT part of their government. It is a political party that holds a minority position in their government.
WTF?..lol
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Ghost_of_Viking
Member
+11|6725
meh if every country would send out bombers to wipe out the country and its people because 2 citizens were kidnapped the world would be a lot better place, it wouldn't be here anymore.

should have thought the jews had learned something bout how it feels to being atempted to be wiped out by a bigger and stronger force, too bad most of that generation has passed away.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7001|Argentina
This is to Seal.
You are very confused about what war is.  War is children dying while you are playin bf2 in your safe home, so dont talk about war if you are not in one.
By the way when u say jews regarding Israel, you are very wrong too.  I'm jewish, but not born in Israel, like the 99% of them.
And who are you to say if Israel is doin the right thing only coz u think Hezbollah is lebanon, and if it is then not all lebanon people is in Hezbollah.
So, first think, then think and at last think before writing this.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

sergeriver wrote:

This is to Seal.
You are very confused about what war is.  War is children dying while you are playin bf2 in your safe home, so dont talk about war if you are not in one.
By the way when u say jews regarding Israel, you are very wrong too.  I'm jewish, but not born in Israel, like the 99% of them.
And who are you to say if Israel is doin the right thing only coz u think Hezbollah is lebanon, and if it is then not all lebanon people is in Hezbollah.
So, first think, then think and at last think before writing this.
To reinforce your statement, jews are the minority in Israel, and zionist Jews the minority of Jews.
alpinestar
Member
+304|6839|New York City baby.

SealXo wrote:

Come on your all bitching about cutting off lebanons supplies? When they PROVOKED the war and started it.

(Dont say hezbollah isnt lebanon , its part of their gov like the KGB)

What do you think would have heppened if we didnt bomb the Axis's supply lines in world war 2? Hmm? I sure as hell know. We would have lost teh Goddamn war.

I say I LOVE JEWS because THEY are doing what AMERICAS not. We are GIVING Al Queda Supplies (We buy the oil which is the money funded ot them). So i say. BRAVO Israel for using the correct strategy.

So the point is. It's fukin' war son. Get over it,  It's strategy

They need to do whatever is nessessary, to unarm hezbollah so they don't get anihaliated. It's that simple they are playing ball.

We bombed Japan, but its what we needed to do. I say hell its better THEM than US
You have american mindset and you think that everone in a turban is a terrorist.....
SealXo
Member
+309|6779

xGBlitzkrieg wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Come on your all bitching about cutting off lebanons supplies? When they PROVOKED the war and started it.

(Dont say hezbollah isnt lebanon , its part of their gov like the KGB)

What do you think would have heppened if we didnt bomb the Axis's supply lines in world war 2? Hmm? I sure as hell know. We would have lost teh Goddamn war.

I say I LOVE JEWS because THEY are doing what AMERICAS not. We are GIVING Al Queda Supplies (We buy the oil which is the money funded ot them). So i say. BRAVO Israel for using the correct strategy.

So the point is. It's fukin' war son. Get over it,  It's strategy

They need to do whatever is nessessary, to unarm hezbollah so they don't get anihaliated. It's that simple they are playing ball.

We bombed Japan, but its what we needed to do. I say hell its better THEM than US
They are fucking bombing innocent people! If that is not fucked i don't know what is!
Bombing supply lines to stop one of the biggest Quest of domination since the Roman empire, is not the same as trying to kill Hezbollah militants, and as a negative externality of this senseless conflict;  thousands of innocent people our losing their lives. Billions of dollars in damage has already happened, and their goal of weakening Hezbollah is not working. I have friends that have close family in Lebanon, and they have lived their since the Armenian Genocide, when the Turkish murdered millions of Armenians.  Hezbollah does have officials in the Lebanon’s Government, but that does not justify killing innocent people! By no means is this using the correct strategy of war.

First off the leader of al Qaeda Osama bin laden, received around 400 million dollars from his father, with the requirement that he leaves Saudi Arabia and never returns. IF he did he would be executed, by no other than his own father. I know this because my Uncle spent ten years in Saudi working construction.  He learned of this when he was there. So at one time 30 years ago The USA and many other countries funded the modern day AL Qaeda.

The only point i will agree with you on, that war is war! BUT they are dead wrong and should face the major consequences when this conflict is over, they definitely need to pay for the rebuild of Lebanon!

The Japan defense: Japan had planed and executed a great plan to attack the USA because the wanted to cripple our navy for a fill scale invasion and cease the supplies that the eminent threat of an embargo. That attack and we doing the only thing we could to stop their attack on America this is nothing to be proud of, nor is something too use as an example of how Israel is killing many types of people. This War between Hezbollah and Israel was started by a fucking RPG crossing the damn border of Israel, and is by no means the same as a full scale attack on America By Japan without declaring war. Also they decided to attack at the height of World War II.

Israel is right in the quest to kill off the Hezbollah, but their actions are fucking wrong, wrong, wrong!!!
Its us or them.
Look at world war 2 dude. they arnt just video games of some made up war
alpinestar
Member
+304|6839|New York City baby.
US or THEM ???
Who do you define as US and who is THEM in your opinion ?
EVieira
Member
+105|6721|Lutenblaag, Molvania

kr@cker wrote:

well right now the extreme wing of the lib party is in control of it, and they are the ones pushing socio-communist agendas like Hillary and her socialized medicine, granted not all dems are communist, some fought vehemently against it, but they are not the ones in control
THE REDS ARE COMING! THE REDS ARE COMING! Wtf is going on? You people are still afraid of communists in your back yard? Social programs are not socialism. I'm not sure I agree with Hillary's ideas, but calling her and most dems communists... what the hell?!?!
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
I am reading all these post recently, and just seeing the whole Man made world being set up in a 1984 type world.. Where killing other people for problems that can aand should be handled diplomatically is the mind set. From what I can tell from the poster is that if they are Arabs or Muslims, they should be killed and deserve what they get because they could be or become terrorists.

It's also not really a war, a "war" is usually two army's fighting each other. This is a conflict between an army and a group like the militas in North Dakota.   I've read a few places that Hezbollah is part of the government, but there are two parts of Hezbollah the government part and the Millitant part. In the US there are member of the KKK in the government because they are elected officals.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6933|Tampa Bay Florida
Socialism and Communism..... 2 very, very fucking different things.  I hate it when the righties act as if, it's either Capitalism, or your a commie.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6793|Southeastern USA
pretty much boils down to the kkk having representation in the US government and it's time west virginia wakes up to the fact and stop electing the drooling senile bastard

and yes, I am afraid of communists, because if they take power I will no longer have a back yard
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ
Yeah but the comparison is Lebanon has elected officals(I think).. So they were elected by a small population of the country...

And west virginia is very scary
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

kr@cker wrote:

pretty much boils down to the kkk having representation in the US government and it's time west virginia wakes up to the fact and stop electing the drooling senile bastard

and yes, I am afraid of communists, because if they take power I will no longer have a back yard
Kracker, since you're living in the past, do you think we should go teach those russians a lesson? Damn soviets.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6793|Southeastern USA
communism = threat to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, they do have representation among the democratic party, therefore no I am not living in the past, and the soviet union is actually slowly coming out from behind the iron curtain
Reject_Wolf
Former Karkand Addict
+32|6826|Windsor, Ontario, Canada
It is not a war, notice how Lebanon isn't fighting?
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6939|NJ

kr@cker wrote:

communism = threat to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, they do have representation among the democratic party, therefore no I am not living in the past, and the soviet union is actually slowly coming out from behind the iron curtain
So is capitalism whoo hoo, gots ya
Deader
Member
+7|7035|TN, USA

chittydog wrote:

Hezbollah is NOT part of their government. It is a political party that holds a minority position in their government. If the Libertarian party in the US was found to be a terrorist party, would the entire country be responsible for their actions? No, but you seem to be too misinformed to understand any of that.

The Lebanese people are not 100% innocent as many of them support hezbollah, but you can't condemn all of them for the actions of a few.


Edited for spelling.
This has probably already been addressed and I'm late in this and I don't intend on reading the whole darn thread, but yes, Hezollah is part of their government.  Unless being the equivalent of a Congressman in the U.S. does not make them part of the government. I would say that most Lebanese do not support Hezbollah since Hezbollah is a minority in their government.

If the Libertarian party were a terrorist organization and they kidnapped Canadian citizens across the border and demanded truckloads of Molsen for their return, and the U.S. Government did nothing to try to stop them, then yes the U.S. Government would be responsible for their actions. Inaction is acquiescence by proxy.
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America

Reject_Wolf wrote:

It is not a war, notice how Lebanon isn't fighting?
Last time I checked rockets were raining down on our ally Israel. They may have been coming from Syria but I'm pretty sure we all know exactly where they're coming from: Lebanon.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Reject_Wolf wrote:

It is not a war, notice how Lebanon isn't fighting?
Last time I checked rockets were raining down on our ally Israel. They may have been coming from Syria but I'm pretty sure we all know exactly where they're coming from: Lebanon.
Except the Lebanese army isnt firing them.

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