Are those the same ones that think it's OK for an unborn child to be destroyed?Flecco wrote:
Would these bleeding heart liberals be the same ones who abolished slavery and worked for equal rights?
The good comes with the bad. I can drag up a whole load of shit that right wing governments have done but I'd rather not get into a stupid, circular argument.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Are those the same ones that think it's OK for an unborn child to be destroyed?Flecco wrote:
Would these bleeding heart liberals be the same ones who abolished slavery and worked for equal rights?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Sounds like a cop-out to me.Flecco wrote:
The good comes with the bad. I can drag up a whole load of shit that right wing governments have done but I'd rather not get into a stupid, circular argument.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Are those the same ones that think it's OK for an unborn child to be destroyed?Flecco wrote:
Would these bleeding heart liberals be the same ones who abolished slavery and worked for equal rights?
Nah, theres just too much of it to sift through.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Sounds like a cop-out to me.Flecco wrote:
The good comes with the bad. I can drag up a whole load of shit that right wing governments have done but I'd rather not get into a stupid, circular argument.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Are those the same ones that think it's OK for an unborn child to be destroyed?
actually it was a republican president that abolished slavery, and democrats that called out the nat guard to keep schools from being integrated, and democrats that ran for president on a pro-segregation platform
I was refering to liberals dude. You can be a republican and have liberal ideas for your time and you can be a democrat and have conservative ideas. I am of course speaking about the American political parties here.kr@cker wrote:
actually it was a republican president that abolished slavery, and democrats that called out the nat guard to keep schools from being integrated, and democrats that ran for president on a pro-segregation platform
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Nazi Germany was rather conservative in ideals.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Sounds like a cop-out to me.Flecco wrote:
The good comes with the bad. I can drag up a whole load of shit that right wing governments have done but I'd rather not get into a stupid, circular argument.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Are those the same ones that think it's OK for an unborn child to be destroyed?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Are you saying conservatism = fascism? If that were the case then all of my fellow Americans who naively hold liberal viewpoints would be cowering for their lives, under the current conservative regime here. The fact is they are free to say whatever they want. However, they don't represent the majority view here so we shouldn't bother having to appease their non-nensical whims.Flecco wrote:
Nazi Germany was rather conservative in ideals.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Sounds like a cop-out to me.Flecco wrote:
The good comes with the bad. I can drag up a whole load of shit that right wing governments have done but I'd rather not get into a stupid, circular argument.
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liberal = radical political change, in favor of a heavily state regulated market
conservative = slower political change, in favor of a free market economy
taking absolute power from a government and turning a nation from a free market economy to a fascist/socialist system in the span of a decade is rather liberal
you are also confusing the very incorrect stereotypes concerning racism with political policy, if you'll look and as I have stated before, the democrats (the liberal US party) are the ones with senators like robert "sheets" byrd who is a cofirmed member of the kkk, and Strom Thurman who (also a kkk member) ran for president on a pro-segregation platform
conservative = slower political change, in favor of a free market economy
taking absolute power from a government and turning a nation from a free market economy to a fascist/socialist system in the span of a decade is rather liberal
you are also confusing the very incorrect stereotypes concerning racism with political policy, if you'll look and as I have stated before, the democrats (the liberal US party) are the ones with senators like robert "sheets" byrd who is a cofirmed member of the kkk, and Strom Thurman who (also a kkk member) ran for president on a pro-segregation platform
My god! Take some PolSci courses and stop this little circle jerk between kracker and cyrus.
Calm down little boy. You're going to wet yourself if you're not careful.jonsimon wrote:
My god! Take some PolSci courses and stop this little circle jerk between kracker and cyrus.
No you annoying troll, I am anti zionist there's a difference I don't hate people I hate their actions but most of them seem to follow the same pattern. (it does not mean I would throw a jew in the oven) <-- explanation for capt. foleyCapt. Foley wrote:
It is to be alpinestar.
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mutual masturbation!!
No, I'm following your logic that liberalism = communism. For the record please tell me if Canada is communist, they have socialised medicine. Australia does to to a limited extent... Are we commies?CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Are you saying conservatism = fascism? If that were the case then all of my fellow Americans who naively hold liberal viewpoints would be cowering for their lives, under the current conservative regime here. The fact is they are free to say whatever they want. However, they don't represent the majority view here so we shouldn't bother having to appease their non-nensical whims.Flecco wrote:
Nazi Germany was rather conservative in ideals.CyrusTheVirus wrote:
Sounds like a cop-out to me.
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For the record I don't think the US of A will ever become communist or fascist. There is a reason for the second amendment as I have stated before. Liberalism does not equal communism, in the same way fascism and intolerance do not equal conservatism.
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Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
It happened dude, READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS PEOPLE !!!! ITS ALL THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE!!!Spark wrote:
Fucked with for over 450 years? By who?! THE GODDAMN VATICAN DOES NOT TAKE THE SLIGHTEST OUNCE OF SHIT FROM ANYONE. They certainly wouldn't take 450 years of it.fadedsteve wrote:
Umm. . . they (Christians) never would have taken the city or have attacked anyone if they hadn't they been fucked with for almost 450 years!! Sometimes enough is enough. . . .
Shall I bust out the history books again. . . to shut you liberal pundits UP!!!
You are SORELY mistaken Jon, you have no clue what your talking about. . .
I am not blowing this shit out of my ass!!!
How about you prove it, instead of blowing shit out your ass.fadedsteve wrote:
It happened dude, READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS PEOPLE !!!! ITS ALL THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE!!!Spark wrote:
Fucked with for over 450 years? By who?! THE GODDAMN VATICAN DOES NOT TAKE THE SLIGHTEST OUNCE OF SHIT FROM ANYONE. They certainly wouldn't take 450 years of it.fadedsteve wrote:
Umm. . . they (Christians) never would have taken the city or have attacked anyone if they hadn't they been fucked with for almost 450 years!! Sometimes enough is enough. . . .
Shall I bust out the history books again. . . to shut you liberal pundits UP!!!
You are SORELY mistaken Jon, you have no clue what your talking about. . .
I am not blowing this shit out of my ass!!!
I've read plenty, and don't recall harsh treatment of non-Muslims in Muslim Jerusalem. Again, cite a soure or two.fadedsteve wrote:
It happened dude, READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS PEOPLE !!!! ITS ALL THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE!!!
I am not blowing this shit out of my ass!!!
The term 'Semitic' applies to any peoples of semitic backgrounds, that is, Jews and Mediterranean Arabs. So someone who hates arabs is also labelled as 'anti-semitic'.
From Wikipedia's account of Saladin:Bubbalo wrote:
I've read plenty, and don't recall harsh treatment of non-Muslims in Muslim Jerusalem. Again, cite a soure or two.fadedsteve wrote:
It happened dude, READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS PEOPLE !!!! ITS ALL THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE!!!
I am not blowing this shit out of my ass!!!
Despite his fierce struggle to the Christian incursion, Saladin achieved a great reputation in Europe as a chivalrous knight, so much so that there existed by the 14th century an epic poem about his exploits, and Dante included him among the virtuous pagan souls in Limbo. Despite the Crusaders' slaughter and mass murders of men, women, and children when they originally conquered Jerusalem in 1099, Saladin granted amnesty and free passage to all common Catholics and even to the defeated Christian army (the Greek Orthodox Christians were treated better, because they opposed the crusades).
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the thing is they dont want to live in peace. imagine israel is a bear if u dont have something to kill it u never attack him because his attack will f**k u and the people near u. but that morons dont want to live in peace because if they wanted they didnt kidnapped the 2 soldiers and lebanon would be free.Spumantiii wrote:
As soon as you belive this is right, you can stop trying to 'liberate' other countries.aqempty wrote:
AND STOP WITH THOSE CRAP OF LIBERTY OF PALESTINE, BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
Remember Iraq? It seems America doesn't know what to do with Liberty.
last crusade was on middle age, last yihad was years ago so who s on middle age?fadedsteve wrote:
The rebuttal. . . . The crusades were a delayed response to centuries of Muslim aggression! It grew to such a problem, in the 11th century that the Christians were forced to recapture their lands taken by muslims!!! The crusades were started in the defense of Christianity, NOT religious imperialism!!
all history book are written by winners or losers(when they get the power) so there arent a half winner version.fadedsteve wrote:
It happened dude, READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS PEOPLE !!!! ITS ALL THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE!!!
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/ … index.html
Damn Israel starting shit after the cease fire. poor peace loving Muslim terrorists.
Damn Israel starting shit after the cease fire. poor peace loving Muslim terrorists.