kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA

mavrick 3399 wrote:

this made me laugh and it kinda contradicts what Kr@cker said

kr@cker wrote:

elite wrote:

merkava sucks dude....honestly who thinks that is good??
do you even know what it is? it is easily the most battle hardened Armour platform on the planet, the only drawback is the lack of info on it because everything is so secret, but the design philosophy says it all, a good tank crew is better than a good tank, so build the tank to protect the crew
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn … om/galeria

the crew weren't that good that time
OMG NOOB!!! LEARN TO TANK ON AN EMPTY SERVER!!!!
elite
Member
+89|6716|Sheffield, England

ShotYourSix wrote:

That was a great history bit.  Thanks man! +1

A few things I found particularly interesting:

- Adding one milllimeter of steel armour to a tank increased its weight by 1 ton.
- Leave it to the British to build a tank which can destroy and entire building while at the same time making a pot of tea.
- What is this ^ marking for?  I see it on a lot of tanks.
- That longshot in Desert Storm was amazing.  Can you imagine the whoops and backslapping after that one?
- Challenger II can hit 8 targets in only 40 seconds.  Amazing.
- Where is part 5?
- Where is part 5?
- Where is part 5?

Big thanks for posting this.  Really enjoyed it.
sorry dude it was a one hour documentory about the challenger..that was it im afraid

i told u the challenger 2 owns, noone believed me!
elite
Member
+89|6716|Sheffield, England

kr@cker wrote:

elite wrote:

merkava sucks dude....honestly who thinks that is good??
do you even know what it is? it is easily the most battle hardened armour platform on the planet, the only drawback is the lack of info on it because everything is so secret, but the design philosophy says it all, a good tank crew is better than a good tank, so build the tank to protect the crew

designed for urban combat, and has modular armor, meaning it can not only be repaired in field by only replacing the damaged sections, but can be refitted before each mission with armor suited for the available threat

I hate wiki, but the links at the bottom are good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava

it has 300 more horses than your challenger
challenger top speed : 37 mph
merkava mk4 top speed: 60 mph
not to mention it's airconditioned, how many tanks have you ever seen with AC?
the challenger 2 has air con....did u even watch the video!
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA
i couldn't watch them all, but I've seen many others, I guess the variant i saw wasn't equipped, I did like the boiling water thingy
Cobra4545
Jizz in my pants
+54|6480|Vancouver, USA

DoNER90 wrote:

the challenger was poorly moddled in BF2"EF
Yah I would say so, when I first saw the real thing, I thought it was another tank.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA
they need the merk in 1.4
Deaths_hand
Member
+3|6528|Canada
now now Kracker, we don't need to see a Merk in 1.4, Dice would never make it so it could carry Infantry and still have good armour, just like the other tanks in the game, it doesn;t do it justice.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA
yeah that's right, cuz the A-10 is a tank killer in real life, too bad DICE didn't get the memo
horny_trojan
Member
+39|6712|Los FUCKING Angeles
Only the british would design a tea-maker into their tanks.  i actually laughed out loud when i saw that.  Makes me wonder if theres a coffee maker on the abrams.

on a seperate note, I haven't seen anybody repping the Leopard tanks.  Since i know next to nothing about them, any Germans out there know anything about them.

And, as far as i know, the Abrams still rocks.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA
yeah i was hoping for some german input on the leopards as well, the only german military i've seen on here was starfleet, and he's ex navy
Deaths_hand
Member
+3|6528|Canada
I drive Leopard IIs in the Canadian Army, they are exactly the same, well only execption is the language the buttons are in >.> and i will tell ya the L2 is on par with the Abrams, when it comes down to it the A2, and the L2 are just as powerfull as each other... but the leopard is better on Gas. the Abrams engine is both a pro and a con, pro: it raises its top speed Con: on a sencer it will be the glowing white thing that shoots back, so it makes it really easy for a heat seaker to track it(assuming the fail safes built into the A2 did not function), but the A2 has a system to deal with heat seaker rockets and laser guided, althought just like any tank, only armour is the protection for a wire guided or a free guide rocket.
MoonShadow616
Doesn't read the Whole Thread
+16|6623|Japan
There was a Challanger tank that fell off its Transporter in Hampshire about a Month ago, it took over 14 hours* to be lifted back onto its Trailor.

*Dont quote me on that
l41e
Member
+677|6650

ShotYourSix wrote:

- What is this ^ marking for?  I see it on a lot of tanks.
I think that's for what squad or platoon it's in, there are 4 (<, ^, v, >) which designate Alfa (A), Bravo (B), Charlie (C), and Delta (D). I don't know which arrow corresponds to which squad/platoon though.
Deaths_hand
Member
+3|6528|Canada

k30dxedle wrote:

ShotYourSix wrote:

- What is this ^ marking for?  I see it on a lot of tanks.
I think that's for what squad or platoon it's in, there are 4 (<, ^, v, >) which designate Alfa (A), Bravo (B), Charlie (C), and Delta (D). I don't know which arrow corresponds to which squad/platoon though.
close, but in my experince it only shows what Company you are in, the ^ for instance is usally Cavalry(don't quote me on that).  take mine for example we have crossed Swords.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/mythus90/LF2003-0304.jpg

some more pics of Canadian Leopards from the Royal Canadian Dragoons.


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/mythus90/LF2003-0359.jpg

gotta love the Carl-G

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/mythus90/LF2003-0318.jpg
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6542|Omaha, Nebraska!

elite wrote:

Yeah i know theres been alot of topics over tanks and shit.....just thought for those who like tanks would like to see this, it was shown on tv just a few weeks ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqaVIcUa … ger%20tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eopNXS8z … ger%20tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsnDUT7o … ger%20tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2MnKe_E … ger%20tank
i understand your tank is good and has freakin awsome armor plates, but just because im American.... i love my M1A2

M1A2 music video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSjEAt6kQik
M1A2 vs T-90
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ae2so7 … mp;search=
Deaths_hand
Member
+3|6528|Canada
lol fair enough Omega, like i said the Abram and the Leopard, plus the Challenger are arguably just as powerful, but when it comes down to it, the leopard is #1, why? because it can submerge underwater your abrams can't do that hehehe

Last edited by Deaths_hand (2006-08-09 15:09:49)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6583|SE London

The Challenger 2 is awesome - Now. It wasn't before the second Iraq war, since it was designed for operations in European theatres and it didn't work in the sand! But they fixed it so the sand doesn't clog it up and now it's great.

If you ask me it's the best tank in the world - just look at it's performance. KDR 300:0. Can't argue with that much. It's the obscenely heavily armoured, with a great targeting platform for a pretty decent gun. It has shown that in combat it works - brilliantly.

The Merkava Mk 4 is a great tank, but I don't think it's as good as the M1A2 or the Challenger. Oh and kr@cker, just pointing out the top speed you listed for the Merkava is in Kmph not Mph, if you look at them both in Kmph -

Challenger 2 : 59Kmph
Merkava : 60Kmph

Not a big difference.

Also, scientists at the MoD have developed an electric force field (pulsed power system), which vaporises incoming projectiles on impact. Designed specfically to counter shaped liquid copper rounds as used in common anti tank weaponry like the RPG-7. Sounds funky - but it's 4 years old and I haven't heard much about it lately, maybe it flopped.

Article about Electric Armour
USAFDude_1988
Will fly for food.
+120|6510|Daytona Beach, FL

elite wrote:

merkava sucks dude....honestly who thinks that is good??
What a baseless remark... any reasons why you think that?

Merkavas have a high crew survivability rate... think about it.
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6542|Omaha, Nebraska!

Deaths_hand wrote:

lol fair enough Omega, like i said the Abram and the Leopard, plus the Challenger are arguably just as powerful, but when it comes down to it, the leopard is #1, why? because it can submerge underwater your abrams can't do that hehehe
it will soon , i hope!
Deaths_hand
Member
+3|6528|Canada

USAFDude_1988 wrote:

Merkavas have a high crew survivability rate... think about it.
hehe totaly right, after all Tankers don't die... they burn. so it would be nice to know that in the case my tank was ever penetrated i would survive, and not burn to death in a can.
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6542|Omaha, Nebraska!
can i post some pics of m1a2 owning? or some other tanks?

M1A2
https://public.andrews.amc.af.mil/jsoh/images/planes/m1a2-2_large.jpg

Leopard
https://www.mindef.nl/binaries/6956_tcm15-24559.jpg

Merkava
https://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/merkava001.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/merkava.htm&amp;h=558&amp;w=800&amp;sz=161&amp;hl=en&amp;start=4&amp;tbnid=JZodcq67UbjE6M:&amp;tbnh=100&amp;tbnw=143&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3DMerkava%2Btank%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
$teiner
Member
+8|6564|United Kingdom

elite wrote:

merkava sucks dude....honestly who thinks that is good??
The Israelies? You ass.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6583|SE London

https://www.tankmuseum.co.uk/news/images/hiquality-images/challenger2(301KB).jpg

The Challenger 2 out and about dictating the shit.

https://fprado.com/armorsite/Challenger2_Pics/challenger-firing.jpg

I want one.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-08-09 16:22:58)

ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6475|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND
did anyone se on the news....a crappy home made rocket in lebenon hit a merkava and put a hole in it....wtf!!!
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6583|SE London

ELITE-UK wrote:

did anyone se on the news....a crappy home made rocket in lebenon hit a merkava and put a hole in it....wtf!!!
Thats what they get for not having reactive armour.

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