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2006-08-02 11:32:00
Chuzuki
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VspyVspy wrote:

Chuzuki, you need to work on that KDR dude, you're not quite a sniper yet.
I know, and I am bringing it up.  Read my last post to understand that.
Most people here are taking this as ad hominem, but I'm saying the gun is bad, not you.  It has its uses, 1 game in 100, and I always think "damn if I only had the M95", but unless you spend your time spawn camping the enemy airfield there are much better choices.

Edit: And I refuse to start a new account to skip my crappy mouse aiming low-KDR period.  As far as I'm concerned, that's stat padding.

Another edit: I get plenty of kills with nades and claymores, I knife whenever I get the chance, and I finish off kills with the pistol if they're close enough.  That's why my sniper rifle KDR is much lower than sniper kit.

Last edited by Chuzuki (2006-08-02 13:08:23)

2006-08-02 13:39:29
Chuzuki
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R3v4n wrote:

You forget what the gun is used for Anti-Material, its used to pass through things the L91A1,M24,SVd,Type 88 cant break through this is why it has such noise, in real life it can perce through a V8 engine cleanly.  why else would it be loaded witha .50 cal round.  Large cross hairs make it harder to use at a long range so dont try it with that in mind thats were the M24 comes in.
If I remember correctly, it's loaded with a .51 cal round in a .50 cal barrel.  Three reasons:  lower energy loss and higher accuracy because the round is literally squeezed into the riflings, and .50 cal is the largest allowed by Geneva.  You make it seem like a pea shooter with your V8 reference though, it can shoot through a metre of concrete with no problems.

Maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about..but I'll leave this up for confirmation/correction.

Last edited by Chuzuki (2006-08-02 13:44:40)

2006-08-02 13:49:58
mpsmith
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Dude not to knock you (because I agree that the M95 sucks) but how could a .51 cal round fit through a .50 cal tube? It's a .50 BMG round. And it's "anti-materiEl." An 'e' not an 'a'.

And to anyone who thinks the M95 doesnt suck: the ONLY reason to ever use the M95 is if you plan on taking people out who are in vehicles/shooting down vehicles (this is possible, but extremely rare- if you hit a jet in the canopy it can do a fair amount of damage even if you dont kill the pilot). The accuracy is shit.

The best all-around sniper rifle is the L96A1. It's as accurate as the M24 but reloads faster. An argument can be made for the semi-auto rifles but I'd posit that the loss of accuracy doesn't make up for the increased rate of fire. Basically any long-range semi-auto kill is luck (statistically), whereas a long-range M24/L96 kill can be skill.

I have to say, though, that if they wanted a good rifle they'd have used the M82A1 instead of the M95 (they're both Baretts). The difference is size, but more importantly the M82 is semi-automatic. Both rifles are very accurate for about 2.5km. The reason they didn't is for balance. A dead-accurate semi-automatic .50 BMG sniper rifle would be insane in BF2.
2006-08-02 14:51:08
Chuzuki
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mpsmith wrote:

Dude not to knock you (because I agree that the M95 sucks) but how could a .51 cal round fit through a .50 cal tube? It's a .50 BMG round.
I don't remember where I heard it, but it makes sense.  The barrel is rifled, giving that extra .01" enough space to squeeze the copper into.  The reasoning was they needed a rifle that could be used as anti-materiel, but still allowed to shoot infantry under Geneva.  Again, I may have no idea what I'm talking about.

I also thought why not use the M96?  It's the same as the M95, but breech loaded with no magazine.  I've seen enough semi-auto M82 whores in SOCOM, so I know all about balance.  But like you said about vehicles, a friend and I like to spam enemy helicopters with the "cannon" and we compete to see who's the better AA sniper.
2006-08-02 15:17:45
Tripp
I wanna be on you
+116|6777|So Cal
definately a bit more skill involved with the M95.  I try to mix it up between M95 and L96.  I just love those crosshairs on the L96.

but, I definately don't hate it.
2006-08-02 15:24:57
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7001|Chicago.
Me too Tripp. But I have found myself using all of them. SVD, M24, M95, L96. It's fun.

Last edited by BigmacK192 (2006-08-02 15:25:24)

2006-08-02 15:37:57
Vintageologist
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+31|7008|Vienna, Austria

Chuzuki wrote:

Assuming BF2S weapon stats are correct, it's a fact:  the M95 sucks.

The M95 was only put in the game for baseraping, but since no server has enough balls to allow baseraping it makes the M95 worthless.  Don't believe me?  Compare it to the snipers you don't have to waste an unlock on...

If you're playing USMC, you have no other reason to use the M95.  The M24 does just as much damage as the M95, but has much better accuracy and the sights aren't like 435236542 metres wide.  Sure, you might say "but the M95 takes armored fools down to 5 health so I can pistol them", but honestly how many times have you seen a sniper with an M95 bother with a pistol kill?  I don't even care if they do pistol them, you should be getting headshots as a sniper.  In case you haven't noticed, the M24 can kill with headshots too.

Okay, okay, what if you're MEC or PLA?  I'll group the Type 88 and SVD together on this one:  according to BF2S they have the same accuracy as the M95, no better, no worse.  In all my experience as a sniper in BF2, I'd have to agree.  I can hear the flames start now..."the M95 has a higher zoom level than the SVD or Type 88, and I'm worthless and can't place shots without a 5x zoom".  Believe it or not, the SVD can kill with headshots.  I know, I know, it's only 7.62mm (.308 calibre), nothing like the brain-splattering .50 calibre M95, but a kill's a kill, right?  The 10 round magazine that you can fire semi automatically can't hurt either...what's better than taking out several snipers before they can even put another round in the chamber?

Another reason to not use the M95:  the whole map can hear you fire.  Every time you fire that cannon you tell me exactly where you are, and that muzzle flash is nothing more than a glowing "kick me" sign.  But for some reason, round after round, in every server, I have to deal with (and get a good laugh out of) smacktards using nothing but the M95.
Yeah the M95 sucks bigtime... anyone who's serious about sniping will use the L96 anyway... it's just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more accurate... and when do you ever get the chance to snipe s/o out of a vehicle? Not often. So why bother having a gun that is as accurate as the semi auto ones but bolt action??
Btw I was talking to that DICE dude suggesting that they make it more accurate but give fewer extra mags in exchange and he said he would like it uped too, but they won't change the kits in 1.4 (Because they are concentrating on the major bugs and game balance issues like F35/J10) Soo... I hope there will be another patch coming out to fix some of that stuff....
2006-08-02 16:42:28
Tripp
I wanna be on you
+116|6777|So Cal
the SVD is FUN but not for me.  I don't like wasting shots, and I get an itchy trigger finger if I use the SVD, brings the sniper rifle ACC down M24 is nice too!
2006-08-02 16:44:40
TimBob
Member
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n00b ejector
2006-08-02 16:46:39
Cobra4545
Jizz in my pants
+54|6729|Vancouver, USA
I too think the M95 is over rated.  Big deal that you can shoot through glass with the thing, it is so in-accurate half the time you cant even hit what you're aiming for.  But you have to unlock it if you want the L9... because that one is the best by far.
2006-08-03 23:58:06
mpsmith
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Chuzuki wrote:

mpsmith wrote:

Dude not to knock you (because I agree that the M95 sucks) but how could a .51 cal round fit through a .50 cal tube? It's a .50 BMG round.
I don't remember where I heard it, but it makes sense.  The barrel is rifled, giving that extra .01" enough space to squeeze the copper into.  The reasoning was they needed a rifle that could be used as anti-materiel, but still allowed to shoot infantry under Geneva.  Again, I may have no idea what I'm talking about.
The rifling, while adding some "space," still leaves metal in the way of the bullet. It's .50 BMG without a doubt. Trust me on this one.
2006-08-04 00:29:37
riSm
Member
+3|6727|Sydney, AU
Depends on the map. But I still prefer the L96A1 for it's 'silence' factor. You have a better chance of stealth because it's a quieter shot, I can hear M95 snipers from a fair distance, even while in a heli. (X-Fi ftw)

Last edited by riSm (2006-08-04 00:30:05)

2006-08-04 00:43:04
alav
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I never liked the M95, before of after the 1st sniper weapons accuracy correction. I admit I never practiced enough with it to have a certain decision, but I did play with it for about 10 hours. I got some good kills, but I always disliked its range/accuracy & especially the "aiming+shot reaction feel" I got from using it. It's just not my kind of gun.

I like the M24 the same way I like the L96. To me, they seem equally powerfull and accurate. The L96 simply has a "better" scope, IMHO, and sounds cooler.

However, my prefered rifle is definately the SVD. 1 headshot is enough to kill... you just have to practice to know how to do it. It was always funny to watch the reaction from people, who rush @ you with assault rifles, thinking that you're trying to run away from them (attempting to get distance) and you actually rush @ them instead, and use the SVD burst to kill'em while they're starting to shoot their AK101, G36E, m16 or L85. Ahhh... good times... I miss'em.

Last edited by alav (2006-08-04 00:47:26)

 

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