BF2S Forums If American Indian's still owned America?

Yeah but just please "be more funny"

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

it is funny tho that we would invade iraq cause saddam was killing 1000's of his people..

hell the US Govt wipped out an estimated 20M natives yet nothing ever happened to them..

Come on dude, no offense, but that was 300 years ago, I think the standards and ideology of the U.S. Government has changed since then.

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

to ask what it would be like if American Indians still owned America implies that they ever did own America.  Such an implication is entirely a misunderstanding of their very nature.  They had no system of ownership and never viewed themselves as owners of the land, or anything really.

thats a myth

lol

In this case, American History is wrong.  I guess the college course I just finished on it was a waste of time and completely wrong.  I agree 100% with Puck.

while it's your right to agree with who you want, American history is very white washed and very incorrect..

a perfect example...

think about this the next thanksgiving when you sit down to eat..

In 1637 in Connecticut: Just before dawn, colonial militia men attacked, surrounding the Pequot tribal village completely, setting fire all around, burning alive over 700 men, women and children. The eerie screams could be heard for miles according to neighboring tribes. The few Pequots that managed to escape were immediately shot down, except for a handful that were held captive and sold as slaves into Boston households. The militia men celebrated on their way home from the slaughter, drinking and cheering upon their return, that same day, signed into law with Governor Bradford that: "This day forth shall be a day of celebration and thanksgiving for subduing the Pequots." (Massachusetts document) This is how the "holyday" was founded. The famous and fictitious story of a "Thanksgiving dinner" in 1621 with the Indians and Pilgrims never happened. In fact, rats that jumped ship even before the Pilgrims set foot ashore, infected the Wampanoags with the deadly Smallpox. The Wampanoags had no resistance to this foreign disease and soon started dropping dead everywhere. They sure couldn't help the Pilgrims when they couldn't help themselves, but the Pilgrims managed to repeatedly steal their grain supplies and other food. The Pilgrim-Indian dinner was invented many years after the Pequot slaughter to instill both a false pride in Americans about the founding of their country and to cover up the True founding: Slaughter, steal land, give thanks. Which started with the Pequots and spread across the entire country, leaving millions dead and remaining survivors shoved onto "reservation" prisons. Between the big lie about the 1621 "Dinner" and the Truth concealed for 358 years, it is very difficult to watch this celebration year in and year out. True thanksgiving, in Native understanding, is ever day, it is a way of life. Would anyone tolerate a "Happy Holocaust Day" in Germany, and give it a Hebrew name??? I don't think so... Americans do need to find out the Truth, so we can all have a "Harvest Dinner" on another day, making a new beginning through education, and change this "Thanksgiving Day" to a National day: "A Teaching Wind," an All Native Peoples Day, including remembrance of the Pequot People.

Source: Documents of Holland, 13 Volume Colonial Documentary History, letters and reports from colonial officials to their superiors and the King in England and the private papers of Sir William Johnson, British Indian agent for the New York colony for 30 years.

Researched by William B. Newell, Penobscot Tribe; Former Chairman of the University of Connecticut Anthropology Department.

Last edited by BFROE|IndianScout (2006-08-01 08:40:36)

It's called education and getting other peoples perspectives to move foward it's not really whinning if it's educational.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

I've always wondered what our country would be like if the American Indian's weren't almost whiped out with by the Europeans, so please let me hear you idea's..

From the looks of most reservations I have been on, polluted, impoverished, filled with alcholics, and filled with people sitting around whining about the people giving them a free ride in life. 

So in a nut shell, It would look like France.