RTFA and maybe you'd have a clue.lukeiamnotyourfather wrote:
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Communism FTW!
derailed.
Correct, we're getting there, little by little. No 2 party system exists here any longer. Just the party of the powerful, turning the rest of us into brainwashed plebes.Bubbalo wrote:
Again, you're talking about totalitarianism. A better comment would be "I didn't know the US was Fascist" since Fascism is basically a police state. Communism is economic.LT.Victim wrote:
i didn't know the US was communist
most police officers in DC are dicks
they spend more time ticketing people for parking violations than stopping gang crime and drug dealing
When I was a wee lad I wanted to be a firefighter... I don't think any child my age wanted to be a cop. Why? Cause most of them are dicks. Sure there are some good ones here and there but most of them are just power-hungry tools who get a pleasure out of giving people a 50 dollar ticket for a 2 minute expired parking.
they spend more time ticketing people for parking violations than stopping gang crime and drug dealing
When I was a wee lad I wanted to be a firefighter... I don't think any child my age wanted to be a cop. Why? Cause most of them are dicks. Sure there are some good ones here and there but most of them are just power-hungry tools who get a pleasure out of giving people a 50 dollar ticket for a 2 minute expired parking.
Bummer, but look on the bright side:GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
reminds me a lot of what happened to me
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=344419#p344419
One of my neighbor's grandsons, whom I vaguely knew of for years, got arrested for child molestation because a three-year-old said he touched her. Now I don't know the full details of the case, because his grandfather doesn't like to talk about it and he doesn't like telling his grandfather about it, but from what I heard it sounded like his ladyfriend put the kid up to it. He could have probably pleaded innocent, but taken a lighter punishment (and the not-so-light sex-offender label) on the grounds that he couldn't prove it, but he flat out pleaded innocent altogether, no compromise. But now he's facing years in prison anyway. In our United States, it's guilty until proven innocent...
Cases like these contribute to deteriorating family values in the US. Other people hear them, and are paranoid about ever getting hitched because of it.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but after so many issues like this, I have to laugh that the anti-gun camp expects people like me to hand all means of self-defense to the government, because the government is capable of protecting us perfectly on the domestic front...
PICK UP THAT CAN.
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ZOMG! what is the world coming too?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
This link was thrown at me over a messenger a few minutes ago:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=17667
Discuss.
Really makes me wonder why the police where in force in the first place? But yeah we are entering the world of 1984 anyway.
Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2006-07-31 08:04:47)
Just what is the Bill of Rights:
In the United States, the Bill of Rights is the term for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution. These amendments explicitly limit the Federal government's powers, protecting the rights of the people by preventing Congress from abridging freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of religious worship, and the right to bear arms, preventing unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment, and self-incrimination, and guaranteeing due process of law and a speedy public trial with an impartial jury. In addition, the Bill of Rights states that "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people,"[1] and reserves all powers not granted to the Federal government to the citizenry or States. These amendments came into effect on December 15, 1791, when ratified by three-fourths of the States.
Initially drafted by James Madison in 1789, the Bill of Rights was written at a time when ideological conflict between Federalists and anti-Federalists, dating from the Philadelphia Convention in 1787, threatened the Constitution's ratification. The Bill was influenced by George Mason's 1776 Virginia Declaration of Rights, the 1689 English Bill of Rights, works of the Age of Enlightenment pertaining to natural rights, and earlier English political documents such as the Magna Carta (1215). The Bill was largely a response to the Constitution's influential opponents, including prominent Founding Fathers, who argued that it failed to protect the basic principles of human liberty.
The Bill of Rights plays a central role in American law and government, and remains a fundamental symbol of the freedoms and culture of the nation. One of the original fourteen copies of the Bill of Rights is on public display at the National Archives in Washington, DC.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution
The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;
Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
In the United States, the Bill of Rights is the term for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution. These amendments explicitly limit the Federal government's powers, protecting the rights of the people by preventing Congress from abridging freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of religious worship, and the right to bear arms, preventing unreasonable search and seizure, cruel and unusual punishment, and self-incrimination, and guaranteeing due process of law and a speedy public trial with an impartial jury. In addition, the Bill of Rights states that "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people,"[1] and reserves all powers not granted to the Federal government to the citizenry or States. These amendments came into effect on December 15, 1791, when ratified by three-fourths of the States.
Initially drafted by James Madison in 1789, the Bill of Rights was written at a time when ideological conflict between Federalists and anti-Federalists, dating from the Philadelphia Convention in 1787, threatened the Constitution's ratification. The Bill was influenced by George Mason's 1776 Virginia Declaration of Rights, the 1689 English Bill of Rights, works of the Age of Enlightenment pertaining to natural rights, and earlier English political documents such as the Magna Carta (1215). The Bill was largely a response to the Constitution's influential opponents, including prominent Founding Fathers, who argued that it failed to protect the basic principles of human liberty.
The Bill of Rights plays a central role in American law and government, and remains a fundamental symbol of the freedoms and culture of the nation. One of the original fourteen copies of the Bill of Rights is on public display at the National Archives in Washington, DC.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution
The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;
Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Well that is an ignorant statement if I ever saw one. You know perfectly well what he was referring to, unless you are trying to tell us that Stalin and Mao were fascists.Bubbalo wrote:
Again, you're talking about totalitarianism. A better comment would be "I didn't know the US was Fascist" since Fascism is basically a police state. Communism is economic.LT.Victim wrote:
i didn't know the US was communist
On topic: Conservative that I am deplores the basis for such a law. The police should not be able to operate without their actions being able to be documented. I am interested to hear polarbearz's view on this.
Gunman how many of those are already violated.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
By which level of classes standard, the rich make the laws.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
By which level of classes standard, the rich make the laws.
I think that's the main reason of this story, evidence, cops acting like criminals, cannot afford to have documented material against them, remember Rodney King?Darth_Fleder wrote:
Well that is an ignorant statement if I ever saw one. You know perfectly well what he was referring to, unless you are trying to tell us that Stalin and Mao were fascists.Bubbalo wrote:
Again, you're talking about totalitarianism. A better comment would be "I didn't know the US was Fascist" since Fascism is basically a police state. Communism is economic.LT.Victim wrote:
i didn't know the US was communist
On topic: Conservative that I am deplores the basis for such a law. The police should not be able to operate without their actions being able to be documented. I am interested to hear polarbearz's view on this.
I have faith that things will eventually settle on the right path in this country. our american society is evolving more and more through every generation.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Gunman how many of those are already violated.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
By which level of classes standard, the rich make the laws.
But which way? All I know is that harder fines and penalty's for certain things seem to be pushing younger children into worse drugs and hopelessness. Example when I was in High School 10 years ago the worst drug anyone did was acid(which is pretty bad) now a days it's herion. Three kids died in the past year from od's, and a couple suicides, I grew up in white bread land. So hopefully penalties will correct themself before it get's worse. 120 dollars for a speeding ticket is rediculas
i believe education and schooling is the key. if we have a more educated population, I believe the gov't will be less willing to infringe on our guaranteed American rights. Time and patience. as far as civil rights go, things are a whole lot better nowadays than what they were 50 or 60 years ago.
but it does seem worse for us out here in the "ground level" of society. when i was in highschool, weed was ofcourse popular and I remember acid being the "hush hush" dope. nowadays I see 12 year olds up for 2 weeks at a time on crystal meth. that shit is unbelieveable. whole generations of youngsters are snuffing out their futures before life even starts for em.
but it does seem worse for us out here in the "ground level" of society. when i was in highschool, weed was ofcourse popular and I remember acid being the "hush hush" dope. nowadays I see 12 year olds up for 2 weeks at a time on crystal meth. that shit is unbelieveable. whole generations of youngsters are snuffing out their futures before life even starts for em.
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Yeah I wish that our government would put more money into education and schooling as appose to rebuilding other country's. Instead when they get involved they make things worse, teaching creation is school? Evovultion even though it's a theory has more scientific help then creation.
A building is only as good as it's "ground Level" a building with a week foundation can only be built so high.
A building is only as good as it's "ground Level" a building with a week foundation can only be built so high.
I have pictures on my cell phone right now of the swat team in my town when there was a shooting at the police station. I was taking pictures for about an hour and a half with my phone lol.
Here you go:
This happened May 8, 2006 in Centreville, Virginia in the parking lot in front of Starbucks on Stone Road.
Here you go:
This happened May 8, 2006 in Centreville, Virginia in the parking lot in front of Starbucks on Stone Road.
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haha. owned.safshep wrote:
wow. I have been looking at the forums for only 5 minutes and I ahve seen you post this picture twice already. and it was already old before you used it....lukeiamnotyourfather wrote:
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Insecure cop = Corrupt Cop, nuff said about that.
The system is taking hold, and yes, if you havn't noticed over the last few years, laws that need no place in our society have been put into effect. A law to support a law is just damn ridiculous, and the representatives, congresspeople, and local state governments are the lazy bastards who just sign off on them because they are told too, intead of doing the research to see what the effects will be to the loss of our freedoms vs the gain of control.
The system is taking hold, and yes, if you havn't noticed over the last few years, laws that need no place in our society have been put into effect. A law to support a law is just damn ridiculous, and the representatives, congresspeople, and local state governments are the lazy bastards who just sign off on them because they are told too, intead of doing the research to see what the effects will be to the loss of our freedoms vs the gain of control.
Well that's the whole problem of having a job as a lawmaker, if they don't make Laws their not doing there job.
A lot of it has to do with the lawyers, too. If they're shitty defense lawyers who don't give a shit about their clients, then whoevers the client is pretty screwed.
Last edited by Spearhead (2006-07-31 10:46:07)
Y'all have to be kidding me.
Did nobody here read about the BATFE agents who pulled people over after a legal gun show, confiscated their legally purchased guns, and later sent letters to those whom they missed stating that they had to "turn themselves in"? Hell, they called family members and asked them what the family members thought of the purchasers activities.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think we live in a police state right now.
Buddy of mine in a small Texas town was dating a cop's ex-wife. The cop was a ....ed off psycho who wanted his ex back, but she didn't want him. One night, the cop pulls my buddy over on a county road (ostensibly for reckless driving), beats his ass, then charges him with assaulting an officer. Luckily, the cop was later thrown in jail for stealing a gun from a criminal (arrested the guy, took his sweet piece and substituted a shitty gun, then pawned the nice one - that's how he was caught) and so they dropped the charges against my buddy.
Think of what would have happened had the cop not gone on to commit further crimes. My buddy would have stood in court and it would have been his word against the cop's and my friend would have been in the Crossbar Hilton for some extended period of time.
I was actually standing in a parking lot waiting to tailgate one time and two cops came and took everyone's license and ran checks on them. Seems a little like a police state to me.
Don't even bring up the whole subject of how unfair the tax code is to those of us who have bettered ourselves. I get ass-jammed every day by some bullcrap tax or other. I'd be a zillionaire if democracy inevitably didn't degenerate into bullshit socialism.
Anyway, we've got it better than most, but we're living in a socialist police state and that's about all there is to that. I am fully aware that it could be much, much worse, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that this is any kind of Utopia for personal or property rights.
Did nobody here read about the BATFE agents who pulled people over after a legal gun show, confiscated their legally purchased guns, and later sent letters to those whom they missed stating that they had to "turn themselves in"? Hell, they called family members and asked them what the family members thought of the purchasers activities.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think we live in a police state right now.
Buddy of mine in a small Texas town was dating a cop's ex-wife. The cop was a ....ed off psycho who wanted his ex back, but she didn't want him. One night, the cop pulls my buddy over on a county road (ostensibly for reckless driving), beats his ass, then charges him with assaulting an officer. Luckily, the cop was later thrown in jail for stealing a gun from a criminal (arrested the guy, took his sweet piece and substituted a shitty gun, then pawned the nice one - that's how he was caught) and so they dropped the charges against my buddy.
Think of what would have happened had the cop not gone on to commit further crimes. My buddy would have stood in court and it would have been his word against the cop's and my friend would have been in the Crossbar Hilton for some extended period of time.
I was actually standing in a parking lot waiting to tailgate one time and two cops came and took everyone's license and ran checks on them. Seems a little like a police state to me.
Don't even bring up the whole subject of how unfair the tax code is to those of us who have bettered ourselves. I get ass-jammed every day by some bullcrap tax or other. I'd be a zillionaire if democracy inevitably didn't degenerate into bullshit socialism.
Anyway, we've got it better than most, but we're living in a socialist police state and that's about all there is to that. I am fully aware that it could be much, much worse, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that this is any kind of Utopia for personal or property rights.
Stupid polices. They think they own the whole world.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/na … 0000000001
wooooo kids are trouble makers lets lock them up so they can be safe?? WTF
wooooo kids are trouble makers lets lock them up so they can be safe?? WTF