Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6935|Canberra, AUS
Source is personal. I'll do a bit of googling. Be warned - few of these sources are neutral, as this is a thing few rich people or conservatives seem to want to talk about. I'll post a similar thing here:

http://www.worldrevolution.org/guidepage/inequality/intro wrote:

Social inequality and poverty increasing worldwide
World Socialist Web Site

"Global inequalities in income and living standards have reached grotesque proportions," according to the latest annual United Nations Human Development Report (UNHDR).

While 1.3 billion people struggle to live on less than $US1 a day, the world's richest 200 people doubled their net worth between 1994 and 1998 to more than $1 trillion. The world's top three billionaires alone possess more assets than the combined Gross National Product of all the least developed countries and their combined population of 600 million people.

Far from narrowing, the gulf between rich and poor is growing. "Some have predicted convergence. Yet the past decade has shown increasing concentration of income, resources and wealth among people, corporations and countries," the report states.

The income gap between the fifth of the world's population in the wealthiest countries and the poorest fifth of the world's population was 74 to one in 1997, up from 60 to one in 1990, and 30 to one in 1960. Those living in the highest income countries have 86 percent of world Gross Domestic Product (GDP), 82 percent of world export markets, 68 percent of foreign direct investment and 74 percent of world telephone lines. Those living in the poorest countries share only one percent of any of these.

OECD countries, with 19 percent of global population, control 71 percent of global trade in goods and services, and consume 16 times more than the poorest fifth of the globe.

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World inequality rises
(BBC)

The world is becoming a more unequal place, with a growing gap between rich and poor households.

According to the economist Branko Milanovic, global inequality has risen fast - increasing by around 5% between 1988 and 1993, the same rate that inequality widened in Britain during the Thatcher years.

The gap is so big that the richest 1% of people (50 million households), who have an average income of $24,000 (£16,000), earn more than the 60% of households (2.7 billion people) at the bottom of the income distribution.

Gains go to the rich

The study is the first to compare household income across countries, using a series of surveys that cover 84% of the world's population and 93% of world income.

Previous research has only been able to compare the average income of one country against another.

But this study showed that the gap between rich and poor is much greater than previously understood.

Nevertheless, the biggest source of inequality is the difference between the income of people in the five major economies (USA, Japan, Germany, France and Britain) and the poor in rural India, China and Africa.

The study points to the growing gap between urban and rural areas in China as another major source of inequality.

In the five years of the study, world per capita real income increased by 5.7%.

But all the gains went to the top 20% of the income distribution, whose income was up 12%, while the income of the bottom 5% actually declined by 25%.

Two regions in which the poor got much poorer were Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union - where the income distribution worsened dramatically after the collapse of the communist regime - and sub-Saharan Africa, where wars, famine and disease led to falls in economic output.

Causes and consequences

The study raises the concern about the lack of a "middle class" at the world level, with most people concentrated at the bottom or at the top of the income scale.

The huge gap between rich and poor - with 84% of the world receiving only 16% of its income - has become more worrying since the world has faced the threat of organised terror from groups based in some of the world's poorest countries.

And the spread of global communications may make the income gap - with the richest 10% receiving 114 times the income of the poorest 10% - more difficult to maintain.
Hardly neutral, though, so...

http://www.marxmail.org/facts/inequality.htm wrote:

KOFI ANNAN'S Astonishing Facts!
THE HAVES -- The richest fifth of the world's people consumes 86 percent of all goods and services while the poorest fifth consumes just 1.3 percent. Indeed, the richest fifth consumes 45 percent of all meat and fish, 58 percent of all energy used and 84 percent of all paper, has 74 percent of all telephone lines and owns 87 percent of all vehicles.

NATURAL RESOURCES -- Since 1970, the world's forests have declined from 4.4 square miles per 1,000 people to 2.8 square miles per 1,000 people. In addition, a quarter of the world's fish stocks have been depleted or are in danger of being depleted and another 44 percent are being fished at their biological limit.

THE GANGES -- The Ganges River symbolizes purification to Hindus, who believe drinking or bathing in its waters will lead to salvation. But 29 cities, 70 towns and countless villages deposit about 345 million gallons of raw sewage a day directly into the river. Factories add 70 million gallons of industrial waste and farmers are responsible for another 6 million tons of chemical fertilizer and 9,000 tons of pesticides.

THE ULTRA RICH -- The three richest people in the world have assets that exceed the combined gross domestic product of the 48 least developed countries.

AFRICA -- The average African household today consumes 20 percent less than it did 25 years ago.

THE SUPER RICH -- The world's 225 richest individuals, of whom 60 are Americans with total assets of $311 billion, have a combined wealth of over $1 trillion -- equal to the annual income of the poorest 47 percent of the entire world's population.

COSMETICS AND EDUCATION -- Americans spend $8 billion a year on cosmetics -- $2 billion more than the estimated annual total needed to provide basic education for everyone in the world.

THE HAVE NOTS -- Of the 4.4 billion people in developing countries, nearly three-fifths lack access to safe sewers, a third have no access to clean water, a quarter do not have adequate housing and a fifth have no access to modern health services of any kind.

MEAT -- Americans each consume an average of 260 pounds of meat a year. In Bangladesh, the average is six and a half pounds.

THE FUTURE -- By 2050, 8 billion of the world's projected 9.5 billion people -- up from about 6 billion today -- will be living in developing countries.

SMOKE -- Of the estimated 2.7 million annual deaths from air pollution, 2.2 million are from indoor pollution -- including smoke from dung and wood burned as fuel which is more harmful than tobacco smoke. 80 percent of the victims are rural poor in developing countries.

WRISTWATCHES AND RADIOS -- Two thirds of India's 90 million lowest-income households live below the poverty line -- but more than 50 percent of these impoverished people own wristwatches, 41 percent own bicycles, 31 percent own radios and 13 percent own fans.

TELEPHONE LINES -- Sweden and the United States have 681 and 626 telephone lines per 1,000 people, respectively. Afghanistan, Cambodia, Chad and the Democratic Republic of the Congo have only one line per 1,000 people.

ICE CREAM AND WATER -- Europeans spend $11 billion a year on ice cream -- $2 billion more than the estimated annual total needed to provide clean water and safe sewers for the world's population.

AIDS -- At the end of 1997 nearly 31 million people were living with HIV, up from 22.3 million the year before. With 16,000 new infections a day -- 90 percent in developing countries -- it is now estimated that 40 million people will be living with HIV in 2000.

LANDMINES -- More than 110 million active landmines are scattered in 68 countries, with an equal number stockpiled around the world. Every month more than 2,000 people are killed or maimed by mine explosions.

PET FOOD AND HEALTH -- Americans and Europeans spend $17 billion a year on pet food -- $4 billion more than the estimated annual additional total needed to provide basic health and nutrition for everyone in the world.

$40 BILLION A YEAR -- It is estimated that the additional cost of achieving and maintaining universal access to basic education for all, basic health care for all, reproductive health care for all women, adequate food for all and clean water and safe sewers for all is roughly $40 billion a year -- or less than 4 percent of the combined wealth of the 225 richest people in the world.


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Posted to PEN-L by Jim Devine
If we could shrink the earth's population to a village of precisely 100 people, with all the existing human ratios remaining the same, it would look something like the following.

There would be:

57 Asians 21 Europeans 14 from the Western Hemisphere, both north and south 8 Africans
52 would be female 48 would be male
70 would be non-white 30 would be white
70 would be non-Christian 30 would be Christian
89 would be heterosexual 11 would be homosexual
6 people would possess 59% of the entire world's wealth and all 6 would be from the United States.
80 would live in substandard housing
70 would be unable to read
50 would suffer from malnutrition
1 would be near death; 1 would be near birth
1 (yes, only 1) would have a college education
1 would own a computer.
When one considers our world from such a compressed perspective, the need for both acceptance, understanding and education becomes glaringly apparent.


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Equity valuation versus national GDP

Amount in billion dollars
Country
Company

Caribbean, Latin America
     
16
Cuba
Juniper Networks

8
Jamaica
Phone.com

201
Colombia
IBM

121
Chile
Oracle

Europe
     
9
Latvia
VA Linux

246
Poland
Intel

593
Spain
Microsoft

107
Greece
Hewlett-Packard

161
Ukraine
Merck

North Africa, Mideast
     
184
Egypt
Citigroup

33
Kuwait
Internet Capital

43
Tunisia
Sprint PCS

344
Iran
Cisco Systems

Sub-Saharan Africa
     
227
South Africa
Lucent Technologies

19
Tanzania
Sycamore Networks

Asia
     
155
Bangladesh
Home Depot

72
Singapore
Qualcomm

456
Thailand
General Electric

109
Vietnam
Dell Computer

194
Philippines
America Online

11
Papua, New Guinea
FreeMarkets

66
New Zealand
American Express



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From Left Business Observer
The richest 1% of people in the world receive as much as the bottom 57%, or in other words, less than 50 million richest people receive as much as 2.7 billion poor.
Someone with an income equal to US$25,000 is richer than 98% of the world population.
The poorest tenth of Americans have average incomes higher than 2/3 of the world.
The richest tenth of Americans — about 25 million people — have aggregate incomes equal to the poorest 43% of people in the world, almost 2 billion people.
The ratio between the average income of the world’s top 5% and world’s bottom 5% increased from 78 to 1 in l988 to 114 to l in 1993.
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Figures compiled by Don Sloan, M.D. for the People's Daily World

Number of people in the world, (pop. 5.5 billion) that live in abject poverty: 1.4 billion
Number of people currently expected to die from starvation: 900 million
Percentage of those that live in the undeveloped nations: 97
Number of children in world dying each year from controllable illness: 12 million
Number of people in world that died each of the five years of World War II: 10 million
Number of people in world that die each year of preventable social causes: 10 million
Cost of one new Osprey aircraft (50 planned): $84 million
Annual cost of treatment to eliminate world's malaria cases: $84 million
Money set aside annually for malaria control by organized world health: $9 million
Money set aside for Viagra pills per annum by organized world health: $40 million
Number of children in world blinded yearly from lack of Vitamin A: 500 million
Number of women who died during childbirth last year in world: 650,000
U.N. estimate of yearly expenditure on war: $800 billion
U.N. estimate of yearly expenditure on health services: $25 billion
Number of children in world that die by age 5 (yearly): 12 million
Percentage of those that succumb to routine preventable health causes: 90
Ratio of African-American to white new born deaths in U.S. last year: 2:1
Number of reported pediatric measles deaths in U.S. last year: 45
Amount of money not allocated by Congress for measles vaccines: $9 million
Average amount of 1999 year-end bonus paid to Oxford HMO execs: $6 million
Time it takes the Pentagon to spend annual federal allocation for women's health: 15 minutes

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More figures from the People's Daily World

The numbers-it's enough to make you cry

* The wealthiest 1 percent of Americans (2.6 million) received as much after-tax income in 1994 as the bottom 35 percent of the population combined (88 million). By contrast, the bottom 35 percent had nearly twice as much after-tax income as the top 1 percent in 1977.

* If families in the bottom fifth had received the same share of income in 1994 as they did in 1977, each family would have had $2654 in additional income. Instead, the income of each family in the top 1 percent increased by $132,955.

* Despite several years of economic growth, the poverty rate declined by less than half a percentage point * 13.7 percent to 13.4 percent * between 1995 and 1997. But this is still higher than the rate in 1989 (13.1 percent) shortly before the recession of the early 1990s.

* In 1997, the average poor family fell another $200 further below the poverty line, until their income is now $6,602 below the poverty level.

* In 1996, the number of "very poor" Americans * those making less than half the poverty line * increased by a half million, up to 14.4 million people.

* Between 1995 and 1997, the decline in the number of people receiving food stamps was five times greater than the decline in the number of people living in poverty.

* The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans enjoy nearly six times more income than those in the bottom 10 percent, a ratio double many countries and 60 percent higher than average.

* According to a Luxembourg Income Study comparing purchasing power in 15 countries, low-income Americans are worse off than low-income people in every industrialized country but the United Kingdom.

(This comparison does not take into account the fact that low-income households in the U.S. must spend more on services such as health care and child care that are more heavily subsidized in other countries.) At the other end, rich Americans have 42 percent more income than the rich in the other nations.


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A Few of Nader's Favorite Stats (from alternet.org)

According to Nader, the top 1 percent of the richest Americans have wealth equal to the combined wealth of 95 percent of other Americans: "It used to be said a rising economic tide lifts all boats. Now a rising economic tide lifts all yachts."

Twenty percent of American children live in poverty; in the Netherlands that figure is 3 percent.

The minimum wage today is lower, in inflation-adjusted dollars, than in 1979.

Today's worker works 160 hours longer per year than 25 years ago.

Bill Gates' wealth equals the combined wealth of the poorest 120 million Americans, or 45 percent of our population. "This is a failure of the political system to defend the people."

Less than one in 10 workers belongs to a trade union in the private sector.

Two million Americans are in prisons, 500,000 more than in communist China, which has a 1.3 billion population.

Forty-seven million people work for less than $10 an hour -- this in a decade of sustained economic growth. "With a wage like that, people can't be considered employed despite the fact that they have jobs."


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IPS Facts About Global Inequality

1. Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are corporations; only 49 are countries (based on a comparison of corporate sales and country GDPs).

2. The Top 200 corporations' sales are growing at a faster rate than overall global economic activity. Between 1983 and 1999, their combined sales grew from the equivalent of 25.0 percent to 27.5 percent of World GDP.

3. The Top 200 corporations' combined sales are bigger than the combined economies of all countries minus the biggest 10.

4. The Top 200s' combined sales are 18 times the size of the combined annual income of the 1.2 billion people (24 percent of the total world population) living in "severe" poverty.

5. While the sales of the Top 200 are the equivalent of 27.5 percent of world economic activity, they employ only 0.78 percent of the world's workforce.

6. Between 1983 and 1999, the profits of the Top 200 firms grew 362.4 percent, while the number of people they employ grew by only 14.4 percent.

7. A full 5 percent of the Top 200s' combined workforce is employed by Wal-Mart, a company notorious for union-busting and widespread use of part-time workers to avoid paying benefits. The discount retail giant is the top private employer in the world, with 1,140,000 workers, more than twice as many as No. 2, DaimlerChrysler, which employs 466,938.

8. U.S. corporations dominate the Top 200, with 82 slots (41 percent of the total). Japanese firms are second, with only 41 slots.

9. Of the U.S. corporations on the list, 44 did not pay the full standard 35 percent federal corpo-rate tax rate during the period 1996-1998. Seven of the firms actually paid less than zero in federal income taxes in 1998 (because of rebates). These include: Texaco, Chevron, PepsiCo, Enron, Worldcom, McKesson and the world's biggest corporation - General Motors.

10. Between 1983 and 1999, the share of total sales of the Top 200 made up by service sector corporations increased from 33.8 percent to 46.7 percent. Gains were particularly evident in financial services and telecommunications sectors, in whichmost countries have pursued deregulation.

Institute for Policy Studies (http://www.ips-dc.org)


James Ridgeway, Village Voice, Week of February 6 - 12, 2002

A survey of public records and private advocacy groups yields the following financial portrait of the American recession:

Number of millionaires: 2.5 million

Number of billionaires: 298

Richest family: the Waltons

Size of their Walmart fortune: $85 billion

Second richest: Bill Gates, $63 billion

Annual take for Enron's Ken Lay: $49.8 million

Percentage of Americans without pensions: 53

Average percentage lost by a 401(k) last year: 10

Number of people without health care: 43 million

Highest-paid CEO: Michael Dell

His total annual compensation: $235.9 million

Dollar ratio of CEO pay to that of minimum-wage workers: 728:1

People filing for unemployment: 390,000

Number of people who go hungry every day:31 million (including 12 million children)

People spending more than half their income for housing: 5.4 million

Percentage of people who own their own homes: 68

Number of properties owned by Ken Lay: 18, valued at $30 million
Need more?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7028

PuckMercury wrote:

oo, chilly.  Looks like I hit a nerve.  Actually, with the exception of this post, all my posts here were on topic with the exception of responding to direct and pointed attempts at attack ... by you actually.

Care to take your own advise?  No, no I thought not.

Ultimately you're just proving the point I tried to make back on the first page and a few times since.  Thank you for aiding me and being my instrument of demonstration.  You've helped illustrate my point beautifully.

EDIT - you still didn't say if you were a happy person.
Not hit a nerve. It’s frustrating trying to argue with an idiot who thinks he can write.
I would rather stay on topic of why I dislike the USA.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6950|Tampa Bay Florida

Spark wrote:

Source is personal. I'll do a bit of googling. Be warned - few of these sources are neutral, as this is a thing few rich people or conservatives seem to want to talk about. I'll post a similar thing here:

http://www.worldrevolution.org/guidepage/inequality/intro wrote:

Social inequality and poverty increasing
Number of millionaires: 2.5 million
Need more?
Whoa, doesn't that mean that 1 out of every 280 Americans is a millionare?

Scary

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-07-31 19:23:39)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6822
Did you really have to quote the whole post?
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6977

Bubbalo wrote:

Did you really have to quote the whole post?
no he didnt, go edit the post, the whole quote is annoying
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7032|PNW

stryyker wrote:

the people that are willing to kill themselves to kill Americans. thats good old hatred right there
How about people willing to kill themselves and a dozen bystanders to kill one American?\

Bubbalo wrote:

d3v1ldr1v3r13 wrote:

Phew for a second I thought Bubb was dying of AIDS.
And I consider that an insult to people who actually have AIDS.
Which means they would be insulted by counting you among their number? Seriously though, I love insulting people with AIDS, provided it's their own damn fault for getting it. But I do sympathize with accidental cases, like infected dentist drool.

That being said, if somebody started a topic under requested conditions that I not participate, I'd be happy to oblige.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-07-30 02:37:19)

Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6935|Canberra, AUS

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Did you really have to quote the whole post?
no he didnt, go edit the post, the whole quote is annoying
QFTE
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6822

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Which means they would be insulted by counting you among their number? Seriously though, I love insulting people with AIDS,
No, it means that he's using a disease which is one of the worst killers in our society in a petty attempt to belittle me.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

provided it's their own damn fault for getting it. But I do sympathize with accidental cases, like infected dentist drool.
Or people in Africa who are told not to use condoms by the Church?  Or should they just prepare themselves for eternal damnation?

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

That being said, if somebody started a topic under requested conditions that I not participate, I'd be happy to oblige.
Good for you.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7032|PNW

Ooh, post divided by three, with a slight dash of anger. Makes my buttcheeks tingle with glee.

But how about the people of Africa just adopt proper family values and stop screwing everything in sight? And stop killing eachother long enough to set up proper hospital and quarantine zones to get this thing under control...but all that is merely wishful thinking...

Bubbalo wrote:

Personally, I think America.  And before we begin, I'd like to request that the following people don't participate:

unnamednewbie13
GunSlinger OIF II
yerdred
kr@cker
Capt. Foley
Lib-Sl@yer
Horseman 77
Alexanderthegrape
=OBS= EstebanRey
<[onex]>Headstone
fadedsteve

I'm hoping that this will be a fair, balanced discussion.
As per my voluntary non-participation in your thread as stated in this thread, I must say (here) that I am proud to be at the top of that shit list (even if it is a crafty joke), and in turn request to any attentive admin that the thread in question (Which country is most responsible for UN failures? by Bubbalo) be renamed to 'the Bubbalo Thread,' or simply 'Bubbalo & Friends' in the Garfield tradition, and finally stickied.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-07-30 03:16:47)

BVC
Member
+325|6956

Capt. Foley wrote:

First I would like to say that I do not want people like Bubbalo to come in this topic because all they do is bash America no matter what. Ok, now. Am I the only one who thinks that the world is in debt to America a monetary figures and in figures that there country still exists. In WWII we gave supplies to Britian and Russia for free(and thats not all). Then we spent money rebuilding countries that had declared war on us(a for any nonbeligerant nation, except Rome): Italy, Germany, and Japan. All I can say is now that we have forgotten how much the rest of the world owes us the least you(the world) could do is treat us with the same respect that we treat you and dont treat us like peices of shit. Thank you, flame on.
If a cop saves your life, they're a hero.  If they then go and rape someone up the arse and steal their wallet, are they still worthy of admiration?  Would you hold back criticism of their crime because they've saved you in the past?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6822

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

But how about the people of Africa just adopt proper family values and stop screwing everything in sight? And stop killing eachother long enough to set up proper hospital and quarantine zones to get this thing under control...but all that is merely wishful thinking...
How about the rest repays them for years of theft?  How about you learn that in agrarian societies people need large families in order to survive.  Further, why should they be expected to miss out because of someone else?

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

As per my voluntary non-participation in your thread as stated in this thread, I must say (here) that I am proud to be at the top of that shit list (even if it is a crafty joke), and in turn request to any attentive admin that the thread in question (Which country is most responsible for UN failures? by Bubbalo) be renamed to 'the Bubbalo Thread,' or simply 'Bubbalo & Friends' in the Garfield tradition, and finally stickied.
Sure, once this one gets renamed similarly.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7032|PNW

Bubbalo wrote:

How about the rest repays them for years of theft?  How about you learn that in agrarian societies people need large families in order to survive.  Further, why should they be expected to miss out because of someone else?
How about they learn that being a bit too free with various reproductive organs spreads AIDS? Or that raping children isn't going to cure their own various cases?

But I suppose all this is irrelevant to the OP.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-07-30 03:42:36)

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6904
somebody say gunslinger?
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6977

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

somebody say gunslinger?
yesh. bubbalogum did
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Cactusfist
Pusher of sausages Down Hallways
+26|6829

Major_Spittle wrote:

I'd like to teach the world to sing (come on, everybody),
In perfect harmony.
Shut up, no one wants to be FRIENDS.

That would be boring


On the serious note, Americans always bring up the freedom of speech thing. You say you have it, but when i go over there, i met hardly anyone who spoke their mind to other people for fear of lashback or other consequence. Thats as good as no freedom at all. I read in another thread that American's own view of the worst point of America was the political correctness, leading to this fear of speaking out.
jamesb
Joined BF2s in November 2005
+133|6984|Doncaster, England

Capt. Foley wrote:

In WWII we gave supplies to Britian and Russia for free(and thats not all). All I can say is now that we have forgotten how much the rest of the world owes us the least you(the world) could do is treat us with the same respect that we treat you and dont treat us like peices of shit. Thank you, flame on.
First off, the UK is still paying the US for WWII. Fuck all was free.
Second,  shut the fuck up, respect where it's due.
A lot of Americans have earned my respect, you are not as yet.
What have you done to earn respect, being American does not qualify you.

When do Americans get treated like shit?


(and you spell PIECES like this)
(and BRITAIN like this)
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6788|Portland, OR USA
something tells me regardless of what he's done to deserve or warrant any degree of respect that simply repeating it to you will warrant precious little in return.  You're obviously of the same school as BN and simply wish to hate.  In the same post as asking when Americans get treated like shit you manage to treat an American pretty much like shit yet have no presence of mind to actually realize that.  Not to mention you take two obvious typos and jump on them like a rabid squirrel and sidestep any and all valid content.

Lastly, before your entire post is dismissed as complete ignorant dribble, what aspect of WWII do you think you're still paying for?
Jim_Bred
Member
+15|6762
"Am I the only one who thinks that the world is in debt to America"

typical American way of thinking, you stupid redneck
jonsimon
Member
+224|6756

Jim_Bred wrote:

"Am I the only one who thinks that the world is in debt to America"

typical American way of thinking, you stupid redneck
Yeah, its Americans like him that make me look bad.

If anything, America owes the world. An apology. All the wars we stir up and people we kill. All the corruption we spread and interference. And it doesn't end at the borders, they pull the wool over our eyes too. So please world, forgive us, we know not what we do.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6788|Portland, OR USA
which "stupid redneck" was that directed at I would ask ...
Lib-Sl@yer
Member
+32|6974|Wherever the F**k i feel like

Bubbalo wrote:

Lib-Sl@yer wrote:

A little addition to that statment if we help a country by freeing it from a tyranical dictator then we are called war mongers if we sit idly by while a tyranical dictator kills his ppl then we are called inhumane monsters. So which is it war mongers or Inhumane monsters?
But you didn't do it to free them.  If you did, what about the rest of the world still living in oppresion?
Yes and China is on my shit list as well most of asia, africa, and south america
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6848|Allentown, PA, USA
"Its better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to open it and let people know you are stupid"

I would direct that at you Bubbalo along with alot of other members, one person off the top of my head that I disagree with on many things but that is not directed to is Cameron Poe(sorry if misspelled) because he always posts reputable sources to back up his posts.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6788|Portland, OR USA
I think that goes, "Tis better to be silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt"

But +1 for one of my favorite quotes. 
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6848|Allentown, PA, USA

PuckMercury wrote:

I think that goes, "Tis better to be silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt"

But +1 for one of my favorite quotes. 
Lol no sorry, I just took it from libslayers sig.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6822

Capt. Foley wrote:

I would direct that at you Bubbalo along with alot of other members, one person off the top of my head that I disagree with on many things but that is not directed to is Cameron Poe(sorry if misspelled) because he always posts reputable sources to back up his posts.
And when was the last time you posted a source?

Besides which, if you're going to use a quote, first know it, then use it properly.  I always provide reason and logic for my stance.  How does that make me a fool?

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