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2006-07-29 14:33:24
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6769|Portland, OR USA

BN wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

if you're unwilling to enumerate your own reasons when someone is asking them blankly, what does that then say about you?  Why should we even care of the opinion of someone so far gone as this?
read the book dumbass, maybe there will be pop up version in the near future for you.
That's your response?  Truly you dwarf my intellect with your razor sharp wit and ability to discourse.

Ultimately, Capt. Foley, this forum has neither the collective intellect or individuality to form personal opinions which are able to be supported and furthered by their poster on any significant scale.  See above quote for supporting evidence.

Hating America is "in", so to be popular, people blindly jump on the bandwagon.  I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to be upset with the nation, but most who do hate America aren't really sure why they do, they just do it because they think they should.  So, regardless of whether or not valid reasons may exist, if the individual is not aware of them, they're simply perpetuating ignorance by following others to any camp.
2006-07-29 16:34:32
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6830|Allentown, PA, USA

PuckMercury wrote:

BN wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

if you're unwilling to enumerate your own reasons when someone is asking them blankly, what does that then say about you?  Why should we even care of the opinion of someone so far gone as this?
read the book dumbass, maybe there will be pop up version in the near future for you.
That's your response?  Truly you dwarf my intellect with your razor sharp wit and ability to discourse.

Ultimately, Capt. Foley, this forum has neither the collective intellect or individuality to form personal opinions which are able to be supported and furthered by their poster on any significant scale.  See above quote for supporting evidence.

Hating America is "in", so to be popular, people blindly jump on the bandwagon.  I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to be upset with the nation, but most who do hate America aren't really sure why they do, they just do it because they think they should.  So, regardless of whether or not valid reasons may exist, if the individual is not aware of them, they're simply perpetuating ignorance by following others to any camp.
Yea that was kinda what I though.
2006-07-29 16:55:19
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7010

PuckMercury wrote:

BN wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

if you're unwilling to enumerate your own reasons when someone is asking them blankly, what does that then say about you?  Why should we even care of the opinion of someone so far gone as this?
read the book dumbass, maybe there will be pop up version in the near future for you.
That's your response?  Truly you dwarf my intellect with your razor sharp wit and ability to discourse.

Ultimately, Capt. Foley, this forum has neither the collective intellect or individuality to form personal opinions which are able to be supported and furthered by their poster on any significant scale.  See above quote for supporting evidence.

Hating America is "in", so to be popular, people blindly jump on the bandwagon.  I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to be upset with the nation, but most who do hate America aren't really sure why they do, they just do it because they think they should.  So, regardless of whether or not valid reasons may exist, if the individual is not aware of them, they're simply perpetuating ignorance by following others to any camp.
Someone’s been using the dictionary.com again. Well done you.

Hating America is “in” because you try to impose your brand of democracy on everyone else.

As for my opinions, they are none of your fucking business.
2006-07-29 16:58:33
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6810|NYC / Hamburg

Capt. Foley wrote:

First I would like to say that I do not want people like Bubbalo to come in this topic because all they do is bash America no matter what. Ok, now. Am I the only one who thinks that the world is in debt to America a monetary figures and in figures that there country still exists. In WWII we gave supplies to Britian and Russia for free(and thats not all). Then we spent money rebuilding countries that had declared war on us(a for any nonbeligerant nation, except Rome): Italy, Germany, and Japan. All I can say is now that we have forgotten how much the rest of the world owes us the least you(the world) could do is treat us with the same respect that we treat you and dont treat us like peices of shit. Thank you, flame on.
as the -1 button is now dead i can now say:

I FUCKING AGREE THERE !!!!!!!!11111

the world does owe america a great deal
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2006-07-29 17:00:27
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6769|Portland, OR USA
where the hell did dictionary.com come into play?

this next statement is indicitive of a fundamental weakness and inability or ignorant unwillingness to seperate the actions of a nation from the psychology of the populous.

And if your opinions are none of my business, why do you post them and go so far in imposing your brand of thinking on others as to flame not only opposing biewpoints but make ignorant attempts to flame the individual?
2006-07-29 17:54:38
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7010

PuckMercury wrote:

why do you post them and go so far in imposing your brand of thinking on others as to flame not only opposing biewpoints but make ignorant attempts to flame the individual?
Because I can

Last edited by BN (2006-07-29 17:54:52)

2006-07-29 17:57:58
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6769|Portland, OR USA
so taking a pass on every other aspect of your post I see.  Wisely done.  Excellent decision.

You're the sort of person who will hate and despise for its own sake and pay no attention to any potentially positive or redeeming action of our nation as a whole either by its people or at a governmental level.  Furthermore, you are entirely unable and unwilling to see past your own screen of hatred to even try to glimpse a genesis in good intent no matter what the outcome may end up being.
2006-07-29 18:52:43
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7010

PuckMercury wrote:

so taking a pass on every other aspect of your post I see.  Wisely done.  Excellent decision.

You're the sort of person who will hate and despise for its own sake and pay no attention to any potentially positive or redeeming action of our nation as a whole either by its people or at a governmental level.  Furthermore, you are entirely unable and unwilling to see past your own screen of hatred to even try to glimpse a genesis in good intent no matter what the outcome may end up being.
I am well versed in your countries actions, but thanks for assuming I am not.

If you want to know my opinoins and how well versed I am, do a search for my posts and argue those points.
2006-07-29 19:00:37
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6951|England. Stoke

Capt. Foley wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks that the world is in debt to America a monetary figures and in figures that there country still exists. In WWII we gave supplies to Britian and Russia for free(and thats not all).
I think if this were true some of money should be spent on history books that are accurate and then you should read them. Have you heard of the "lend lease" agreement...
2006-07-29 19:02:41
RedTwizzler
I do it for the lulz.
+124|6779|Chicago

-=]NS[=-Eagle wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

That being said, screw France.

"Fucking American pigs - AH, the Germans!!!  Save us!  Again!"
http://www.geocities.com/tognaccin/FrancePansies.bmp


Sorry... i just had to
Haha, good one. :l Look at the navigation bar. It's just a parody site.
2006-07-29 19:04:38
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6951|England. Stoke

RedTwizzler wrote:

-=]NS[=-Eagle wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

That being said, screw France.

"Fucking American pigs - AH, the Germans!!!  Save us!  Again!"
http://www.geocities.com/tognaccin/FrancePansies.bmp


Sorry... i just had to
Haha, good one. :l Look at the navigation bar. It's just a parody site.
No if you actually type "french military victories" in google and hit the "I'm feeling lucky" search button that is what happens.
2006-07-29 19:06:49
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6769|Portland, OR USA

BN wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

so taking a pass on every other aspect of your post I see.  Wisely done.  Excellent decision.

You're the sort of person who will hate and despise for its own sake and pay no attention to any potentially positive or redeeming action of our nation as a whole either by its people or at a governmental level.  Furthermore, you are entirely unable and unwilling to see past your own screen of hatred to even try to glimpse a genesis in good intent no matter what the outcome may end up being.
I am well versed in your countries actions, but thanks for assuming I am not.

If you want to know my opinoins and how well versed I am, do a search for my posts and argue those points.
aaactually, that's exactly what I did.  On this page to be precise.  You summarily avoided any aspect of a rebuttal and simply replied, "Because I can" or something to that affect.
2006-07-29 19:22:57
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6803

Pernicious544 wrote:

grilling is fast cooking on a grill and BBQ takes anywhere between 5 and 15 hours to make your food, dont hear about many Ausi bbq joints
According to whom?
2006-07-29 19:24:08
Tjasso
the "Commander"
+102|6765|the Netherlands
I have nothing on Americans just think your government should take care of their people BETTER !!! STOP helping Israel and get the fuck out of the middle east . well let me tell you something (thats american ) im a coldwar product ,grew up almost american (i do bann MECdonalds !!! ,i like the A-team !!! , i like D.R.I. ,i like alot , America FUCK YEAH !! we love ya .. just dont tear the world apart

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2006-07-29 19:24:53
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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max wrote:

as the -1 button is now dead i can now say:

I FUCKING AGREE THERE !!!!!!!!11111

the world does owe america a great deal
You know what I find funny about this?  When negative karma was taken away, it looked to me like most people who espoused Liberal points of view saw their karma shoot up, whilst most with Conservative points of view saw a much less dramatic rise.
2006-07-29 19:29:17
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6803

PuckMercury wrote:

Hating America is "in", so to be popular, people blindly jump on the bandwagon.  I'm not saying there aren't valid reasons to be upset with the nation, but most who do hate America aren't really sure why they do, they just do it because they think they should.  So, regardless of whether or not valid reasons may exist, if the individual is not aware of them, they're simply perpetuating ignorance by following others to any camp.
I challenge you to name the people who you think do this.  The people I can think of off the top of my head who provide reasons (not exactly America haters necessarily, but it seems criticism of America is all that's required for the term):

B. Schuss
Cameron Poe
Flecco
UnOriginalNuttah
2006-07-29 20:49:14
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7010

PuckMercury wrote:

BN wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

so taking a pass on every other aspect of your post I see.  Wisely done.  Excellent decision.

You're the sort of person who will hate and despise for its own sake and pay no attention to any potentially positive or redeeming action of our nation as a whole either by its people or at a governmental level.  Furthermore, you are entirely unable and unwilling to see past your own screen of hatred to even try to glimpse a genesis in good intent no matter what the outcome may end up being.
I am well versed in your countries actions, but thanks for assuming I am not.

If you want to know my opinoins and how well versed I am, do a search for my posts and argue those points.
aaactually, that's exactly what I did.  On this page to be precise.  You summarily avoided any aspect of a rebuttal and simply replied, "Because I can" or something to that affect.
are you still here??

rebutt this

http://forums.bf2s.com/search.php?search_id=1455784484
2006-07-29 21:19:51
Lib-Sl@yer
Member
+32|6955|Wherever the F**k i feel like

stryyker wrote:

we are hated for our actions. for example, since we back Israel, many Arabian countries despise us, because they also hate Israel. As for our current actions, i think we deserve no respect at all. We consume 5 times what we export, we whore oil, and we fuck up the environment. if we took a little more time to think things through, mabye less people would hate us.
A little addition to that statment if we help a country by freeing it from a tyranical dictator then we are called war mongers if we sit idly by while a tyranical dictator kills his ppl then we are called inhumane monsters. So which is it war mongers or Inhumane monsters?
2006-07-29 21:33:46
Pernicious544
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+80|6943|MoVal So-Cal

Bubbalo wrote:

Pernicious544 wrote:

grilling is fast cooking on a grill and BBQ takes anywhere between 5 and 15 hours to make your food, dont hear about many Ausi bbq joints
According to whom?
BBQ was invented by the slaves in the early days of the colonies/united states. They were given cuts of meat that were classified as "tough" and "scraps". To make the meat tender they slow cooked the meat in a pit with low heat. The meat was placed in the pit before work in the morning and by night when all work was done the meat would be taken out  and be very tender. So to ansure your question, According to all the BBQ people that live in the states east of the Mississippi. (thats alot of people:D)

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2006-07-29 21:57:26
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6769|Portland, OR USA

Bubbalo wrote:

That comment was more addressed to the general populous rather than the members of this forum.  As to your challenge, I'd rather not reduce this to a flame war with the exception of this next individual.

BN wrote:

rebutt would be to put an ass on something which had had an assemdectomy.  A proceedure I think you should look into

as for a rebuttal to "your search returned no hits" that's either a sad joke I'm not catching, or you (or a mod) thought better of some ill conceived post.

EDIT - BN, would you say you are a happy person?

Last edited by PuckMercury (2006-07-29 22:09:14)

2006-07-29 22:44:08
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7010

PuckMercury wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

That comment was more addressed to the general populous rather than the members of this forum.  As to your challenge, I'd rather not reduce this to a flame war with the exception of this next individual.

BN wrote:

rebutt would be to put an ass on something which had had an assemdectomy.  A proceedure I think you should look into

as for a rebuttal to "your search returned no hits" that's either a sad joke I'm not catching, or you (or a mod) thought better of some ill conceived post.

EDIT - BN, would you say you are a happy person?
Take if offline arsehole, nobody wants to hear your shite. get on topic or fuck off.
2006-07-29 22:52:08
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6769|Portland, OR USA
oo, chilly.  Looks like I hit a nerve.  Actually, with the exception of this post, all my posts here were on topic with the exception of responding to direct and pointed attempts at attack ... by you actually.

Care to take your own advise?  No, no I thought not.

Ultimately you're just proving the point I tried to make back on the first page and a few times since.  Thank you for aiding me and being my instrument of demonstration.  You've helped illustrate my point beautifully.

EDIT - you still didn't say if you were a happy person.

Last edited by PuckMercury (2006-07-29 22:53:10)

2006-07-29 22:53:26
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6917|Canberra, AUS
I think its time for me to chip in.

Yes. America owes a helluva lot to the rest of the world - especially considering they have a twentieth of its population.

And consume a quater of its resources.

On a similar note, the lot of us owe a lot. We (the richest 10%) use up HALF the world's resources. Hmm...
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2006-07-29 22:57:23
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6769|Portland, OR USA
it's almost like we're all part of a global economy relying larglely on eachother to maintain what we've come to know as a comfortable existence ... huh. 

Where did you get the statistic of our consumption of resources?  I'm not refuting it at this point, just curious where you got that from.

I will say that from the onset that seems to be a spun statistic as it would imply that the whole of the Earth's available resources are consumed by the top 10% of the populous.  It may be true that the top 10% consume 50% of all resources expended each year, but I'd be curious as to the source of that statistic as well.

94.3% of statistics are made up on the spot anyway.
2006-07-29 23:50:04
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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Lib-Sl@yer wrote:

A little addition to that statment if we help a country by freeing it from a tyranical dictator then we are called war mongers if we sit idly by while a tyranical dictator kills his ppl then we are called inhumane monsters. So which is it war mongers or Inhumane monsters?
But you didn't do it to free them.  If you did, what about the rest of the world still living in oppresion?

 

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