Chuckles
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+32|6790

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

but then who is to say that evolution is not a tool of "god", perhaps the grand design was to include this mechanism for unsupervised adaptation to the ever changing environs
But that goes against Genesis.
How does evolution go against Genesis?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6824|SE London

Bubbalo wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

So Genesis is wrong. The bible was only written by people, humans, humans get stuff wrong - especially way back when the first bible was written.
And how do you know they got the whole God thing right?
I don't think they did get the whole God thing right, if other people think they did fair enough - but blind faith in the bible, which makes no sense whatsoever and contradicts itself all over the place, is silly.

I'm suprised you didn't notice my whole atheist stance the whole way through this thread, but just to be clear I don't believe in God.

JaMDuDe wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Evolution is not just a theory - evolution is fact.
I guess you could also say spontaneous generation is fact. You put dirty rags and some hay in the corner of a room and mice appear. Its been proven. Your just ignorant if you deny it. You saying evolution fact shows you dont understand it.
Evolution is fact and has been proven, you're getting a bit confused. I understand it as much as I need to, whilst I have never read The Origin of Species, I have read a few more contempary books on the subject (I don't claim to be an expert) and I know enough to confidently say that it is fact, not merely theory. Evolution has been proven to happen, it has not been completely and absolutely conclusively proven how humans evolved, but the evolution of many other species has been proven, absolutely. So evolution is FACT.
Repent
Member
+3|6890|Florida
Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6798

Repent wrote:

Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
Creationism is not fact...that's why it's called bullshit.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6770|Portland, OR USA
come now, you're better than that CP
HURLEY
Ima Crunchatize you.
+170|6925|The Lou

CameronPoe wrote:

Repent wrote:

Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
Creationism is not fact...that's why it's called bullshit.
i bet you wear a kilt.
CameronPoe
Member
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PuckMercury wrote:

come now, you're better than that CP
I couldn't help it. I was just kidding. Apologies.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-07-29 15:58:45)

PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6770|Portland, OR USA
lol, no need to apologize.  It's your thread after all. 
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|6928|Hell's prison
It appears that in this case, ignorance and retardism causes dumb people to come out and play...
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6770|Portland, OR USA
actually, I think internet forums do that.  Try and start a serious thread involving and measure of critical thinking.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6792|Southeastern USA
critical drinking
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6770|Portland, OR USA
mmm ... jack and coke ...
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6943

Repent wrote:

Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
Yes, gravity is not fact either. Thats why it's called the theory of gravity. Maybe all matter as we know it isn't made of atoms, either. After all, atomic theory is just that, a theory.
CameronPoe
Member
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Skruples wrote:

Repent wrote:

Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
Yes, gravity is not fact either. Thats why it's called the theory of gravity. Maybe all matter as we know it isn't made of atoms, either. After all, atomic theory is just that, a theory.
Skruples we all know gravity is just 'intelligent falling'.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-07-29 17:26:33)

herrr_smity
Member
+156|6871|space command ur anus

Repent wrote:

Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
life is not real its just a dream you are just the imagination of your self.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6770|Portland, OR USA
actually, matter is comprised of quarks, not atoms.
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6943
Actually, unless I'm very much mistaken, atoms are made of quarks, and matter is made of atoms. So you are technically right and wrong.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6770|Portland, OR USA
agreed.  I was just putting it in the most simplified and microscopic terms.  Both are right, and neither are wrong really.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

So Genesis is wrong. The bible was only written by people, humans, humans get stuff wrong - especially way back when the first bible was written.
And how do you know they got the whole God thing right?
You don't know. That's why it's called faith, to believe in something without being sure. Kinda like supporting the Big Bang theory.
Sure, I just find it kind of funny that people pick and choose parts of texts to follow and parts not to.  Then again, I'm unwilling to put my money where my mouth is (figuratively speaking) and declare whether there is or isn't a god.  Problem with any stance on the issue is there are reasons that it sounds stupid.  Then there are fence sitters like me, who aren't willing to argue any firm stance.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738
Arguing to someone that there is no god is pointless. When you have a hypothetical omnipotent being, it is impossible to provide evidence contrary to his or her existence because one can simply invent a way for the god to work around any counterpoint. Intelligent design is an example. Evolution is developed as a theory of creation, and suddenly a theory is developed that God created evolution, thus creating life. Its impossible to argue against a foe with no restrictions.

That said, I am atheist and even if I did believe in a god, I wouldn't foolishly let it affect how I live my life.
alpinestar
Member
+304|6839|New York City baby.

Repent wrote:

Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
Evolution is a fact. Giraffes are here to prove it to you.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6959

alpinestar wrote:

Repent wrote:

Evolution is not fact...that's why it's called a THEORY.
Evolution is a fact. Giraffes are here to prove it to you.
word. creationism... is just wtf...
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jonsimon
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+224|6738

PuckMercury wrote:

agreed.  I was just putting it in the most simplified and microscopic terms.  Both are right, and neither are wrong really.
I've got you both beat! Matter is made of energy!
EVieira
Member
+105|6721|Lutenblaag, Molvania
Blind faith, IN ANYTHING, including your country or president, political parties (remember fascism/nazism?) your future, even your girlfriend, requires ignorance. Its this extremism that requires ignorance. It is also this extremism that creates extremists and fundamentalists.

If faith really required ignorance, then you would be able to affirm most of the world is ignorant, because the majority of the world has faith in some sort of god/religion/after life/etc. And that would include many of the worlds greatest people like Mahatma Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln, Linus Pauling, and so may others.
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

EVieira wrote:

Blind faith, IN ANYTHING, including your country or president, political parties (remember fascism/nazism?) your future, even your girlfriend, requires ignorance. Its this extremism that requires ignorance. It is also this extremism that creates extremists and fundamentalists.
Here, here! Just like all the Americans who blindly believe our government.

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