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2006-07-28 11:48:47
TechGuy
Grammar Nazi
+62|6974
Hi all,

First off, this isn't a 1.3 crash related topic - and I feel funny posting for help with

my forum name and all(I'm really a noob I guess)...

...But I'm totally stumped. Every time someone walks in certain places in the
house, the connection goes wako and my ping goes the highest the game will
display. It does it in every game, and in BF2 it gets me kicked 99% of the time
since most servers have an average ping limit.

It just sits there with the "There is a problem with your connection" message for varied lengths of time. Usually by the time I'm done beating the hell out of whoever(usually my brother) walked in
the wrong spot, it's back to normal if I didn't get kicked. My ping will be
36-33-32-38-41-36- and then 35-98-269-584-768-1022- - -- -- -- (waiting... and
watching my enemies skate around wildly and kill me without me being able to lift
a finger to defend myself - or helplessly try to eject out of chopper so the gunner
can take over and maybe have a chance). I'm going nuts! I can't figure out why it
does this when someone just walks in certain spots in the house!

I have a Lynksys Wireless - B 11Mbps NIC, connection with the network's access
point, which is connected to the DSL router. There are many frequencies in this
house, cordless phones and wireless web cameras mainly. But I doubt that's it. It
happens on the other gaming computer here also.

Anybody ever seen/fixed anything like this?

Thanks
2006-07-28 15:59:36
BigglesPiP
Whirlybird Guy
+20|6850|Windermere, GB
What;s your interner conection.

Wireless G may be better.
2006-07-28 17:05:29
Twist
Too old to be doing this sh*t
+103|6825|Little blue planet, milky way
Urgh.. Wireless... It sure does SOUND like fun, but it's really not....
What's happening is that the connection rate drops from time to time. This usually doesn't mean that you loose your connection, just that it moves "slower" whenever there's a "fadeout" (my wireless goes bonkers when the neighbor turns on their microwave oven). Normally this wouldn't be a problem except that some packages have already been sent over the network. The reply to these may not be able to be transmitted at the same packet size/rate/speed/whatever as it TOUGHT it would be, and thus a package can IN THEORY be dropped, causing the connection to try to resend the pacakge, thus gicing you intermittent problems with your connection....

Now how do you solve this:

The best way is not to do serious gaming on a wireless connection. IF this is not an option for you then you need to examine a couple of other options:
1) Ensure that your router and network card have sufficient power to transmit at the highest speed. Buy extra antennaes if they dont
2) Ensure that your router and network card are up to date on firmware/bios etc. A bad BIOS can fuck everything over. Talk to friends who have bought similar equipment, see if they have problems with theirs... You may have some shitty hardware that needs updating/replacing. Note here that even though the manufacturer may be aware of a problem, that doesn't mean that they're going to solve it anytime soon (sound familar ?)
3) Lower you connection speed on your network. Playing at max speed is not required. A simple ISDN connection is enough to handle BF2. So lower your speed to whatever you can get to run 100% stable. (usually 1 or 2 MBit)
4) Most routers keep a record (or log) of activty.. This will sometimes run full, thus fucking up the memory of the router due to bad coding. So do yourself a favor and reset your router on a regular basis

Hope this helps.
2006-07-28 19:28:05
TechGuy
Grammar Nazi
+62|6974
Thanks for the tips!

1) The NIC gets "very good" signal most of the time, with it going to "good" and "excellent" frequently, although the latter less frequently. I'm considering temporarily running a wire across the floor directly to the router, from my Gigabit Ethernet on the motherboard - just to see what kind of improvement there would be.

2) I don't think the network administrator(my dad) would like me updating the firmware for the router etc...

3) I'll try lowering speed to 2mbps to see if it eliminates the problem and helps with stability. Does this mean replacing the NIC with 54Mbps won't help?

4) Good idea, will do

Now, will turning off some wireless webcams help too? Also, since networking/internet connection stuff is one of my weak areas, I'm going to educate myself. Besides wikipedia etc., are there any places I should know about with lots of good info?

Thanks a ton!
2006-07-29 05:05:49
Twist
Too old to be doing this sh*t
+103|6825|Little blue planet, milky way
Well, you seem to be running an 802.11g protocol if you're using 54 MBit. Try to lower your setting to 5 Mbit when gaming, this should ensure that you ALWAYS get a stable connection, if you sometimes go as low as "good". Go as low as you can if 5Mbit isn't low enough to ensure that the conneciton isnt stable. If you have the option, definately try for the cable. No chance of signal loss there on account of bad wifi.

Your dad may not like the idea of updating the firmware. However, try to find out if there IS a newer firmware for your router. And see if it solves some of the problems you may be experiencing. If it does, talk to him about it, and show him the patch informtion including what other things gets fixed. Usually security is also updated in the firmwares, and this may help him to agree to an update (if one is available).

Turning off wireless cams shouldn't really affect anything. Normally a wireless network operates on a peer-to-peer basis, thus only things that WANT to communicate with the other wireless items will do so. If you were running an infrastructure network, THEN it would help.

Replacing your NIC might also help, but there's no guarantees. Usually it's the antennae that needs replacing, not the NIC itself.

For more info on configuring routers/networks etc. I can only recommend doing a google or hotbot search. There's a lot of information out there, and I have yet to find any single site that provides me with all the information I require.

If you want to test how stable your connection is, start a DOS window (in XP press "start", choose "run" and type in "cmd" and hit enter), and type in the following command "ipconfig". This should show you YOUR IP on the network (usually 10.z.x.y or 192.168.x.y). Like this (ignore the fact that this windows installation is in danish, you should get the same thing in your local installation language):

Code:

C:\Documents and Settings\Ejer>ipconfig

Windows IP-konfiguration


Ethernet-netværkskort LAN-forbindelse:

      Forbindelsesspecifikt DNS-suffiks. . . . . . :
      IP-adresse . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.34
      Undernetmaske. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
      Standardgateway. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Now try to ping your default gateway (usually the router) continually for a while with this command:

ping -t 192.168.1.1           (replace the ip adress with whatever your gateway address is)

This should result in a list showing the ping times to the router. If these fluctuate too much, try altering the settings on your connection untill you get it to stabilize, replace antennaes, lower speed, move your PC.. whatever it takes. Use CTRL+C to stop the pinging when you're happy. If the speed STILL fluctuates even with a hardwire connection then your router has a problem. Try resetting it to see if it helps. If it doesn't then you need a new router or a firmware update. Or you have a problem with your PC in general as two different NICs gives the same intermittent problem.

I hope this helps. If not You may need to ask someone else, as I'll be going on vacation for the next two weeks.
2006-07-29 18:13:00
DrM
Member
+33|6923

TechGuy wrote:

I'm considering temporarily running a wire across the floor directly to the router, from my Gigabit Ethernet on the motherboard - just to see what kind of improvement there would be.
Dude, if you can get a wire from the router to your PC then that is the way forward.
This will get rid of your layer 1 and 2 issues.

Wireless can be great,  but if you have the option for a wire, go with that every time.

The problem is that on-line games have a consistent data stream uploading and downloading, and if there are any delays in the frames or packets then they cause very obvious effects in your gameplay.

If you really, really don't want to use a wire, then try changing the channel the wireless runs on.
There are a load of different channels to try for, and you may well find that some get less interference from the other radio signals in the area.


Hope this helps man..


DrM

 

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