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2006-07-27 00:28:19
Fred[OZ75]
Jihad Jeep Driver
+19|7001|Perth, Western Australia
Considering the current death toll in Lebanon is about 400 with the vast majority being civilians and at the same time the death toll in Israel is about 24 military and 19 civilians does modern weapons help with "surgical" strikes...

Maybe we should give up on all this modern weapons stuff and just hand out home made rockets and explosive belts to crazy people... they seem to be more accurate. I mean they haven't yet accidental blown up a UN observation post.
2006-07-27 00:41:38
schakl
Member
+21|6931
You must consider the fact, that israel military is much better equipped AND the enemy doesn't have a TAG on them. How should they distinguish between a civilian and a soldier ?
Also militias are trained in 'hit and run' or suicide tactics not in defence. Next is, that Israel can spot incoming missiles quite early and contact the people.
The 'surgical strike' theory is an american fake, its just good for destroying infrastructure.
For me people are people, not civilians or soldiers. I think it is the same if you killl 100.000 soldiers or civilians, they are all humans.
2006-07-27 00:45:43
eMarine
Gorgonnash PVP
+119|7085|Sacramento, Cal
Just remember 400 civilians have died, over 2 Israelis....
2006-07-27 02:04:58
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6733|Perth. Western Australia
in the US conflict in the middle east over 50 000 civilians have died and 2000+ US troops

Edit:Have not Hace

Last edited by spray_and_pray (2006-07-27 02:05:24)

2006-07-31 04:24:19
.:silent-liquids:.
Member
+13|6928
i believe the " surgical strike" is a fake i have my own veiws on the situation but i'm not willing to share them.
2006-07-31 06:36:37
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6791|Southeastern USA
you're all living in a fantasy if you think that surgical strike means 0 civy deaths, it is not a fake, it is a very real and costly endeavor, for some perspective, had Iraq invaded Kuwait in the 50's the US's last troops sent to the mid east would have been armed with parking lot stripers. Hezzie is firing from schools, hospitals, neighborhoods, so the return fire goes to schools, hospitals, neighborhoods. It's not Israel's fault the hezzies can't shoot for shit, and it's ridiculous for you to: A) expect israel not to defend itself   B) not blame the hezzies who actively seek to endanger the civilians.
2006-07-31 06:54:37
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6938|NJ

spray_and_pray wrote:

in the US conflict in the middle east over 50 000 civilians have died and 2000+ US troops

Edit:Have not Hace
Could you source the dealth toll, cause I've been wondering.
2006-07-31 06:58:49
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6977|California
Perhpas if they didn't place artillery installations near schools and residential areas, it wouldn't happen. Hiznizzlebellohs know what they are doing. Place military assets near dense civilian populations, that way if they are hit, many civilians die. Win - win situation for the durks.

Quote of the day:

"In Qana, corpses continue to be rescued from rubble"

Also:

"The demonstrators, carrying flags of Hizbullah, are attacking UN representatives, are destroying property in the UN building, and are calling out in favor of Hizbullah and its leader"

Don't ask for a multi-national force if you are just going to attack their emissaries.

Last edited by Erkut.hv (2006-07-31 07:00:16)

2006-07-31 07:00:20
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6792|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

kr@cker wrote:

you're all living in a fantasy if you think that surgical strike means 0 civy deaths, it is not a fake, it is a very real and costly endeavor, for some perspective, had Iraq invaded Kuwait in the 50's the US's last troops sent to the mid east would have been armed with parking lot stripers. Hezzie is firing from schools, hospitals, neighborhoods, so the return fire goes to schools, hospitals, neighborhoods. It's not Israel's fault the hezzies can't shoot for shit, and it's ridiculous for you to: A) expect israel not to defend itself   B) not blame the hezzies who actively seek to endanger the civilians.
And it's ridiculous for you to expect an army (Hezbollah) that has access to an arsenal about a one hundreth the size of Isreal's US sponsored weapons to stand in the middle of nowhere firing rockets.  Are you familar with the term "sitting ducks"?
2006-07-31 07:01:06
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6791|Southeastern USA
noted:
you whole heartedly support hezbollah's use of "civilian armor"
2006-07-31 09:59:48
jonsimon
Member
+224|6737
Surgical strikes are possible, but not using 1000lb bombs in densly populated areas. Israel doesn't care about killing civillians, and I've started to believe they want to kill civillians.

However, modern weaponry is more accurate than ever before. It is not able to demolish one building in the midst of others, but it is able to one block instead of another. Israel just doesn't care.

 

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