Israel is an Official State since 1948, period. They don't need to be "recognized as a State". Period.CO05 wrote:
It sounds like Israel is slowly losing it. Do we defend and not interfere because we value their relationship, or do we take action and stop them?
Question, again:
What's been making Israel go crazy? Their desire to be recognized as a state?
The US decided to end the UN since OIF.Bubbalo wrote:
No. The UN will only end when the US decides it wants it to end.
quit trying to fucking derail. got nothing to say, dont say it. this is serious shit 4 UN military observers were promised by the israeli general that they were safe from attack. and they bombed them. if there was an american killed u would b in an uproar about it. so do us a favour and STFU!!!Slam wrote:
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does that give them the right to attack a 30yr old UN base?AllmightyOz wrote:
Who cares if Israel kills innocent civiallians and UN peacekeepers. Hezbollah would kill innocent Israel's and UN members in a heart beat. I think Israel sent a good message to the UN, that being SUPPORT US OR DIE. No one called for a cease fire when the United States went to Afghanistan to take out terrorists. Israel is going to Lebanon to take out terrorists. Israel has every right in the world to go in, exact their revenge, and take out Hezbollah.
So what you support the Hezbollah? Terrorist.Pubic wrote:
If I could -1 you I would, and if you said that to me in person at the pub I'd knock your fuckin teeth out! Unfortunately for me this is the internet and all I can do is use a few nasty words...in the interests of keeping my criminal record clear thats probably for the best. I know some people over there working for the UN, and I'd rather not see their names in the funeral section of the paper because Israel decided to bomb their work for whatever reason.AllmightyOz wrote:
Who cares if Israel kills innocent civiallians and UN peacekeepers. Hezbollah would kill innocent Israel's and UN members in a heart beat. I think Israel sent a good message to the UN, that being SUPPORT US OR DIE. No one called for a cease fire when the United States went to Afghanistan to take out terrorists. Israel is going to Lebanon to take out terrorists. Israel has every right in the world to go in, exact their revenge, and take out Hezbollah.
Israel knew what it was, where it was, and that it was neutral. And they bombed it anyway. So basically...fuck Israel, and fuck anyone who supports them after this.
Maybe they should mind their own damn business, or take a side and pick up some guns! What do you expect to happen when you are on the front lines watching a BATTLE?Reciprocity wrote:
Are you high out of your fucking mind? Those U.N. people we UNARMED OBSERVERS not peacekeepers. They were on no side. They were just there watching what was going on.AllmightyOz wrote:
Who cares if Israel kills innocent civiallians and UN peacekeepers. Hezbollah would kill innocent Israel's and UN members in a heart beat. I think Israel sent a good message to the UN, that being SUPPORT US OR DIE. No one called for a cease fire when the United States went to Afghanistan to take out terrorists. Israel is going to Lebanon to take out terrorists. Israel has every right in the world to go in, exact their revenge, and take out Hezbollah.
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wow....just wow. we need to give ppl that post here an IQ test b4 they r allowed to say anything. war needs to have observers from neutral sources. they need to record any war crimes commited. now this bombing is coming from our "Friend" israel!!! AlmightyOz, how would you feel about this if an american was one of the UN killed? or someone u knew? would you still say "serves them right to just sit on the frontlines"AllmightyOz wrote:
So what you support the Hezbollah? Terrorist.Pubic wrote:
If I could -1 you I would, and if you said that to me in person at the pub I'd knock your fuckin teeth out! Unfortunately for me this is the internet and all I can do is use a few nasty words...in the interests of keeping my criminal record clear thats probably for the best. I know some people over there working for the UN, and I'd rather not see their names in the funeral section of the paper because Israel decided to bomb their work for whatever reason.AllmightyOz wrote:
Who cares if Israel kills innocent civiallians and UN peacekeepers. Hezbollah would kill innocent Israel's and UN members in a heart beat. I think Israel sent a good message to the UN, that being SUPPORT US OR DIE. No one called for a cease fire when the United States went to Afghanistan to take out terrorists. Israel is going to Lebanon to take out terrorists. Israel has every right in the world to go in, exact their revenge, and take out Hezbollah.
Israel knew what it was, where it was, and that it was neutral. And they bombed it anyway. So basically...fuck Israel, and fuck anyone who supports them after this.Maybe they should mind their own damn business, or take a side and pick up some guns! What do you expect to happen when you are on the front lines watching a BATTLE?Reciprocity wrote:
Are you high out of your fucking mind? Those U.N. people we UNARMED OBSERVERS not peacekeepers. They were on no side. They were just there watching what was going on.AllmightyOz wrote:
Who cares if Israel kills innocent civiallians and UN peacekeepers. Hezbollah would kill innocent Israel's and UN members in a heart beat. I think Israel sent a good message to the UN, that being SUPPORT US OR DIE. No one called for a cease fire when the United States went to Afghanistan to take out terrorists. Israel is going to Lebanon to take out terrorists. Israel has every right in the world to go in, exact their revenge, and take out Hezbollah.
Ah little bubbalo and his fictional little canadien world. I know youre filled with hatred for the us and it causes you to lash out on the interwebs with your mommys computer but thats no reason to be delusional.. Keep wishing maybe try clicking your heels or something.Bubbalo wrote:
If the US ever got sick of it, it would pull out causing a collapse, unless it waits so long that the EU and/or China can give it the muscle it needs, at which point it will likely come down on the US like a ton of bricks.
noPyrri wrote:
Iraq -> Al Qaida <=> Lebanon -> UN, anyone?
umm wut?Pyrri wrote:
Iraq -> Al Qaida <=> Lebanon -> UN, anyone?
I would feel the same. Why would I feel different? Do you value American life more than any other life?destruktion_6143 wrote:
wow....just wow. we need to give ppl that post here an IQ test b4 they r allowed to say anything. war needs to have observers from neutral sources. they need to record any war crimes commited. now this bombing is coming from our "Friend" israel!!! AlmightyOz, how would you feel about this if an american was one of the UN killed? or someone u knew? would you still say "serves them right to just sit on the frontlines"
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im saying that u seem the type of person that would. but obviously not, it doesnt seem that u value human life at all.AllmightyOz wrote:
I would feel the same. Why would I feel different? Do you value American life more than any other life?destruktion_6143 wrote:
wow....just wow. we need to give ppl that post here an IQ test b4 they r allowed to say anything. war needs to have observers from neutral sources. they need to record any war crimes commited. now this bombing is coming from our "Friend" israel!!! AlmightyOz, how would you feel about this if an american was one of the UN killed? or someone u knew? would you still say "serves them right to just sit on the frontlines"
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ok the UN does shit. that is your opinion. but those 4 innocent UN workers were PROMISED safety from israel by the top Israeli general. Those 4 people have families, does that mean nothing to u b/c they worked for the UN?AllmightyOz wrote:
I do not value something as worthless as the UN. They dont get SHIT done!
Don't bring their families into this. That's not what we are talking about. You must be a polotician, beating around the bush like that.destruktion_6143 wrote:
ok the UN does shit. that is your opinion. but those 4 innocent UN workers were PROMISED safety from israel by the top Israeli general. Those 4 people have families, does that mean nothing to u b/c they worked for the UN?
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Israel is not guilty of terrorism. It has a right to defend itself against terrorism. This is a holy (idiot) war and it will not be over until one of the sides is completely wiped off the map.Spumantiii wrote:
Today a UN observation post was hit by Israeli precision weapons. 4 UN soldiers were killed including a Canadian. Technically it's not an act of war since the UN is not a nation but this is some serious shit. Israel claims to have no knowledge of the UN presence at the base. The particular base has been in use by the UN since 1976, 30 years, and has never attempted to hide their identities. Israel claims it's policy is not to attack civilians or the UN. Khofi Annan (sp) is accusing Israel of knowingly attacking the outpost. Israel, with the most competent intel agencies in the world, made a boo boo. This is a perfect example of how
A) precision weapons are as precise as the CHOSEN target.
B) Israel disregards our concerns and would rather shoot first.
C) Israel is also gulity of terrorism.
Oh one point I forgot to mention. After the first strike, Israel waited for relief to come to rescue the UN officers, then struck again, to confirm the kills. Absolutely fucking sickening. This is the group you wish to defend? Both sides are wrong for what they are doing. I guess Israel might be getting the UN back for all the violations that were put on them for other acts of terrorism. Israel has offered an apology but how much more can be accepted that's outside the concensus of the reasonable world?
Look up the definition of terrorism and tell me that does not apply to the state of Israel. The IDF is committing acts of terrorism. Attacking civilian populations is terrorism, it doesn't matter if it is state-sponsered or carried out by a few people.908741059871059781 wrote:
Israel is not guilty of terrorism. It has a right to defend itself against terrorism. This is a holy (idiot) war and it will not be over until one of the sides is completely wiped off the map.
America should have never given weapons to any countries over there. This is the biggest reason why arabs hate us. They feel like we where taking sides (which we did.) I wonder if they ever stop to think that maybe we took our stance based on the fact that they like to blow themselves (along with everyone around them) all to shit.
The rest of the world should really just stay out of it and let them kill each other. Then we can just buy the oil from whoever is left.