So the rape that happened on March 12 couldn't possibly have been found out by locals before the media let it know at the end of June?Horseman 77 wrote:
This makes Poll no sense at all. The mutilations of the dead soldiers happened well before the accusations of rape surfaced. Its just a lame ass attempt to make them look potent. Which liberals fall for hook line and sinker.
As if those cock rats could actually kill two specific soldiers ? 99 times out of 100 their bombs kill Innocent Iraqis and some probably even have insurgent sympathies. These people are so impotent they cant even hide two dead bodies. They never " Captured " anyone.
Poll
If they were associated with the rapist, did they deserve it?
| yes | 44% | 44% - 38 | ||||
| No | 55% | 55% - 48 | ||||
| Total: 86 | ||||||
32 votes and a tie.
Well done folks!
Well done folks!
That's *kinda* racist you know...Alexanderthegrape wrote:
My only conclussion is that they are not evolved enough to do it. And, yes, I am talkng about the WHOLE of Islam.
Oh is it?
Why don't they unite and fight?
I may be a culturalist, but I'm not a rascist.
The evolution I spoke of is a societal one, not a genetic one.
Why don't they unite and fight?
I may be a culturalist, but I'm not a rascist.
The evolution I spoke of is a societal one, not a genetic one.
Because doing it on a larger scale would:
1) Create a pattern and make them easier to target
2) Make US soldiers more alert and less susceptible
3) Remove the shock value of their actions. Horrible as it might sound, Stalin's oft quoted 1 man/1000 men phrase is perfect here.
1) Create a pattern and make them easier to target
2) Make US soldiers more alert and less susceptible
3) Remove the shock value of their actions. Horrible as it might sound, Stalin's oft quoted 1 man/1000 men phrase is perfect here.
What the fuck kinda question is this? Who the fuck are you to ask if somebody deserves to be tortured and murdered, regardless of any crime they committed?
There is an alleged rape and murder of a family, but the story comes from "eyewitnesses" who could be on the side of the insurgents for all we know and be making this whole thing up.
This is a disgusting thread, and you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. I lost a friend over there two years ago. Did he deserve to die? Should I start a thread on that? And anyone who clicked yes should be ashamed of themselves as well.
There is an alleged rape and murder of a family, but the story comes from "eyewitnesses" who could be on the side of the insurgents for all we know and be making this whole thing up.
This is a disgusting thread, and you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. I lost a friend over there two years ago. Did he deserve to die? Should I start a thread on that? And anyone who clicked yes should be ashamed of themselves as well.
Agreed.comet241 wrote:
What the fuck kinda question is this? Who the fuck are you to ask if somebody deserves to be tortured and murdered, regardless of any crime they committed?
There is an alleged rape and murder of a family, but the story comes from "eyewitnesses" who could be on the side of the insurgents for all we know and be making this whole thing up.
This is a disgusting thread, and you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. I lost a friend over there two years ago. Did he deserve to die? Should I start a thread on that? And anyone who clicked yes should be ashamed of themselves as well.
Well I'm sorry your so offended.
I would suggest reading the part one to this thread and the 2nd post by Gunslinger, in this, part two who has been there and lost friends.
The point of this thread is to discuss the revelation that it wasn't just some two random soldiers who were killed, they were specifically targeted BECAUSE of the rape and murder. I think this changes the story completely and warrants further discussion. I could cite numerous threads I have created that are practically fanatical in the support I've shown for our troops, and American ideals.
I think you two judge me too harshly and have not considered why I did it.
If you had convinced me I did something somehow " disgusting " I would delete my thread.
You haven't . Your just being over-reactionary flamesters. It's all good.
42 votes and tied again. Rad!
I would suggest reading the part one to this thread and the 2nd post by Gunslinger, in this, part two who has been there and lost friends.
The point of this thread is to discuss the revelation that it wasn't just some two random soldiers who were killed, they were specifically targeted BECAUSE of the rape and murder. I think this changes the story completely and warrants further discussion. I could cite numerous threads I have created that are practically fanatical in the support I've shown for our troops, and American ideals.
I think you two judge me too harshly and have not considered why I did it.
If you had convinced me I did something somehow " disgusting " I would delete my thread.
You haven't . Your just being over-reactionary flamesters. It's all good.
42 votes and tied again. Rad!
Last edited by Alexanderthegrape (2006-07-18 07:53:37)
"Your just being over-reactionary flamesters"
Thank you for proving my point exactly.
How old are you? 15?
Lose a friend or two over there an you will never question whether torturing and murdering two people is ever ok in a war.
Reactionary? yes. Over the top? no. If it was over the top, you would know what it looked like. Calling you disgusting for making a poll whether murdering two people is ok is far from flaming. It's calling it like it is.
Thank you for proving my point exactly.
How old are you? 15?
Lose a friend or two over there an you will never question whether torturing and murdering two people is ever ok in a war.
Reactionary? yes. Over the top? no. If it was over the top, you would know what it looked like. Calling you disgusting for making a poll whether murdering two people is ok is far from flaming. It's calling it like it is.
The US uses capital punishment, why shouldn't the Iraqis?
Where are you from Bubbalo? (Nothing to do with that post).
He's from Aus. by way of Kim Jong Il
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Not all states use capital punishments... what your saying is if sum1 killed my sister i get all my friends and find and torture/ kill the person, and that would make it right.Bubbalo wrote:
The US uses capital punishment, why shouldn't the Iraqis?
Indeed, I don't believe it's right. But to say that asking the question itself is wrong is silly, some would say that about capital punishment.
When have I expressed support for the North Korean government?Alexanderthegrape wrote:
He's from Aus. by way of Kim Jong Il
Last edited by Bubbalo (2006-07-18 23:17:04)
Dude, its called sarcasm. A jab at your politics.
I have actually praised you recently in another post.
I have actually praised you recently in another post.
How do you propose they coordinate this assault? Perhaps with their government? Oh wait, we destroyed their government. They don't have one anymore. Besides, their military isnt fighting us, its their citizens, armed, and angry at foreign invaders.Alexanderthegrape wrote:
2nd; if these dumb assed Iraqis can get it together long enough to snag two of our guys in a well planned assault why can't they do this on a larger scale. If they fought like this country wide we would soon sure as shit be outta there, and fast.
My only conclussion is that they are not evolved enough to do it. And, yes, I am talkng about the WHOLE of Islam.
As for the primary topic, I think rapists should be court marshalled and jailed like any other rapist.
Sorry, but some people seem to take that seriously.Alexanderthegrape wrote:
Dude, its called sarcasm. A jab at your politics.
I have actually praised you recently in another post.
you got it, try and address the other points if you can.Havazn wrote:
So the rape that happened on March 12 couldn't possibly have been found out by locals before the media let it know at the end of June?Horseman 77 wrote:
This makes Poll no sense at all. The mutilations of the dead soldiers happened well before the accusations of rape surfaced. Its just a lame ass attempt to make them look potent. Which liberals fall for hook line and sinker.
As if those cock rats could actually kill two specific soldiers ? 99 times out of 100 their bombs kill Innocent Iraqis and some probably even have insurgent sympathies. These people are so impotent they cant even hide two dead bodies. They never " Captured " anyone.
I didn't bother reading two pages, but I voted no. Because death penalty - not to mention torture - is never justified.
we don't we just have more press for it so it seems like it, grow up and wake up.Bubbalo wrote:
If the death penalty is so successful, how come America is the only Western country who still use it on a regular basis, and yet have one of the worst reputations for violent crime?
no it is realist, not racist, when the truth hurts someone they get all uptight, and start on the politically correct bullshit.kmkz wrote:
That's *kinda* racist you know...Alexanderthegrape wrote:
My only conclussion is that they are not evolved enough to do it. And, yes, I am talkng about the WHOLE of Islam.
Before I accuse you being ingorant f**k, name few western countries that have executed people recently.-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
we don't we just have more press for it so it seems like it, grow up and wake up.Bubbalo wrote:
If the death penalty is so successful, how come America is the only Western country who still use it on a regular basis, and yet have one of the worst reputations for violent crime?
It was known and talked about, I believe the day it happened. The U.S. personal in charge of the outfit attempted to cover it up, and when the Iraqis got wind of it, there was these reprisal killings.Horseman 77 wrote:
you got it, try and address the other points if you can.Havazn wrote:
So the rape that happened on March 12 couldn't possibly have been found out by locals before the media let it know at the end of June?Horseman 77 wrote:
This makes Poll no sense at all. The mutilations of the dead soldiers happened well before the accusations of rape surfaced. Its just a lame ass attempt to make them look potent. Which liberals fall for hook line and sinker.
As if those cock rats could actually kill two specific soldiers ? 99 times out of 100 their bombs kill Innocent Iraqis and some probably even have insurgent sympathies. These people are so impotent they cant even hide two dead bodies. They never " Captured " anyone.
The Iraqis aren't fighting us, en masse, because a large percentage believe we are doing the right thing and conducting ourself in a non-imperialist manner. This became personal, and the two guys were killed in a very personal manner.
The spokesman for the U.S. Army said that the soldiers had been tortured in a " unnatural manner ".
I wonder if this means that the insurgents let dogs bark at them, stripped them and laid them in piles, and made them sit in uncomfortable positions????? Where is the world outrage??? Where are the human rights organizations??? Where is the outrage by the liberals in the Senate??? Hell, I'd even settle for some outrage in the US media and among US citizens, but that won't even happen in this shit hole society. You liberals can go F**k yourselves.
I wonder if this means that the insurgents let dogs bark at them, stripped them and laid them in piles, and made them sit in uncomfortable positions????? Where is the world outrage??? Where are the human rights organizations??? Where is the outrage by the liberals in the Senate??? Hell, I'd even settle for some outrage in the US media and among US citizens, but that won't even happen in this shit hole society. You liberals can go F**k yourselves.
you did make some excellent points ( that wont be addressed anytime soon ).Major_Spittle wrote:
The spokesman for the U.S. Army said that the soldiers had been tortured in a " unnatural manner ".
I wonder if this means that the insurgents let dogs bark at them, stripped them and laid them in piles, and made them sit in uncomfortable positions????? Where is the world outrage??? Where are the human rights organizations??? Where is the outrage by the liberals in the Senate??? Hell, I'd even settle for some outrage in the US media and among US citizens, but that won't even happen in this shit hole society. You liberals can go F**k yourselves.