BF2S Forums Anyone else ever have "hiccups" when playing online?

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Last edited by IBKCKNURASS (2005-11-16 06:46:19)

try the p4 2,4 with the 256 mb card and 3 gigs of ram

i bet my two cent on the wireless connection. try a hardwired one.

IBKCKNURASS wrote:

one of them is hardwired...... errr nm ill figure it out. like i said i was wondering if it was the game or just me.

It's EA - It's in the game!

It's the game... I have hardwired connection, 2g ram and it still does it, but very rarely. I don't tweak what isn't bust, I have tweaked and have busted though

BudRell wrote:

This "chopping" has usually nothing to do with hardware.
It occurs on every type of connections and despite how powerfull your PC is.

Best candidate for the lag is PUNKBUSTER.
If Punkbusters check doesn't go right, for some reason, there will be a "pause". With the results you described. This can be sometimes corrected by setting some PB parameters.

The second candidate is your Internet service provider.
If one knot to the game server is busted for a short while, you will experience that as a massive lag spike.
----> you will find yourself from the wall. To correct this fault, call your ISP and swear much

There will always be errors caused by latency and malfunctional servers so do not worry. All have/will have same  problems.

Its always funny a server will start to lag and one guy will go "kick all the high pingers, they are making the server lag" and everyone on the server has under 200 ping.  Then other people will chime in, asking with "whats with all the lag", then someone will comment its the server thats lagging, which is normally the correct answer when lots of people are experiencing lag. then an admin will chime in and go, "its not the server the server has a 500 billion gigahertz processer 200 thousand megs of RAM, and a dedicated OC-48 for the pipe. Never actually considering that the server actually can lag or the connection dedicated or not could be experiencing some malfunction.

freebirdpat wrote:

Its always funny a server will start to lag and one guy will go "kick all the high pingers, they are making the server lag" and everyone on the server has under 200 ping.  Then other people will chime in, asking with "whats with all the lag", then someone will comment its the server thats lagging, which is normally the correct answer when lots of people are experiencing lag. then an admin will chime in and go, "its not the server the server has a 500 billion gigahertz processer 200 thousand megs of RAM, and a dedicated OC-48 for the pipe. Never actually considering that the server actually can lag or the connection dedicated or not could be experiencing some malfunction.

Yes, exactly like that. Almost every time the server is the one to blame. It's not possible, not even in theory, that client could "lag the server".
Usually someone has rented an overrated game server (because it was "cheap"..) that should be used for much less players. The admin thinks "blah...it will work fine for 64 players..." and configures the server so. Results can be read from many articles (and whinings...) ...

If clients connection sucks, the only one who suffers is the client. NOT the other players on server or the server itself.

P.S. ..err...in fact there is one exeption in lagging too. Player can cause "self lagging" by using a kind of "hack". But again, that will not effect server or other players. That simply makes the player harder to hit..

Last edited by BudRell (2005-11-18 03:28:18)

doxy wrote:

i bet my two cent on the wireless connection. try a hardwired one.

Quoth the doxy! Internet bro...Internet... nothing to do with your 'puter, you'll have hiccups with the computer with load times and when it first starts, I've had both styles onboard.

Locarno wrote:

I can be driving along 1 min, then next i'm staring at my desktop. WITHOUT TOUCHING A THING! Magic!

I hate the one where I'm happily gambling along and then my vid signal dies - black screen, completely locked up - have to hard-reset it - also all without touhching a thing! The game is truly amazing!

definitely sounds to me like a connection problem, not a computer problem.  Approximately how often does this happen?  Once or twice a round?  Once a minute?

I have never had "hiccups" until yesterday. I kept on getting connection problems for no reason. It sucked, because my ping was 17 and I was aiming for my knife badges, going well and then my connection to the fucking server was lost!

h4r13quin wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

The thing I don't get is this - I've had hideous, unplayable, lag - yet my ping (confirmed by another player) remained <20.

Do not trust the ping function in the game to give you an accurate reading.  Every player reads a different number for those ping numbers, and they can be a difference of hundreds.

Of course. However the point I was making is that if whatever is causing the lag is either at the server or the client end of the network code then it would show up in pings - you still get a lot of variation, obviously, but network lag should increase average ping, by definition - but it doesn't, in fact, from looking at pings, it's clear that the 'lag' most definately isn't network lag - there's absolutely no correlation between lag and ping.

h4r13quin wrote:

I too experience these "lag" issues.  It seems there are too many potential problems to accurately discern where the failure occurs, but I run a wireless and thats generally a bad idea for games as demanding bf2 cause I like the big games. Even servers running CSS with 64 players lag once and a while and thats a much simpler game.  Taking in account the size of the maps and the ammount of action going on its expected to have some lag.

Totaly agree. However, from what I've seen, it appears that the actual problem is that the lag is not being caused by any one single component, rather it seems to be something more akin with a synchronisation issue - each component - video, memory, network, cpu - are all working perfectly and can all handle their individual work load, but the game loses synchronisation and everything gets held up, with the game sitting there kinda waving its arms about going "OK, OK, I know you all want something from me, and you all want it like yesterday, but you're also all telling me stuff that I need to deal with first!"...

h4r13quin wrote:

My most common encounters with lag however is when I'm in a firefight in the middle of it all, my least ammount of lag is when everybody is spread out (outside my field of view).

Yes, this seems to be the one key piece of information - the only place there's any correlation - the lag never hits when everybody's spread out - it really only hits when you get into close firefights - and then, interestingly, there seems to be a threshold - I've had countless occasions where I've been in the middle of a firefight - no lag - then an enemy heli flies overhead - unplayable lag hits. Or sometimes it's a tank.

The other situation that seems to be a prime cause is when you and you squad are taking an out-of-the-way flag, then someone spawns there, or an enemy squad will turn up - to the extent where now, if I'm sitting taking a 'deserted' flag - I can actually get an edge on the enemy because the lag is telling me they've just turned up somewhere...

Actually, thinking about it, I think that might actually be the key factor - it always seems to be situations where an enemy heli/tank/squad turns up.