BF2S Forums Anyone earned Expert Ground Defense without commander stat-padding?

[666]CyKO wrote:

You need to try sitting in the TOW at the SPETZ base on Ghost town. I got mine when stupid heli pilots would hang around our uncap and numberous jeeps, tanks, apc's, AA vehicles, would drive up to the flag accross the bridge. Just keep pumping HJ-8's into them and its usually 1 hit kills. Granted for gold i had some luck on my side. A couple of full blackhawks and a couple multi kill APC's.  GOOD LUCK!

exactly how i done it.


and let me quote an important piece of the original posters work again:

OrangeHound wrote:

for your e-bling

i never did see anyone try and work out why i posted this key statement..

(hint: its a clue as to why no one cares)

SiMSaM16 wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

Of all the Veteran badges, the Veteran Ground Defense is by far the hardest to get legitimately without commander stat-padding (and this is evidenced by the low number of awards).

My question ... have any of you gotten Expert Ground Defense without commander stat-padding?

I would love to hear your story ... that's got to be one hard badge to earn legitimately ...

Wow... now if you take advantage of artillery kills that you get no points for, you are a commander stat padder? what a load of crap...

Thats the stupidest thing Ive heard.

spawnofthemist wrote:

but really.. stop calling everything stat padding..

if a medic kills a support guy.. and takes his kit to throw ammo packs around.. then switches back to his medc kit.. is THAT stat padding? it amounts to the same thing..

grow up.

I don't think that is the same thing... to pick up someones kit and throw out the ammo or medpac you are actually using the kit taking the time to drop the pack, it would be padding( taking advantage of the Points system flaw) if you picked up his kit and then got points for the medpacs that he already dropped but no one had used yet. 

If your getting kills for ground defense or any vehicle with out actually firing the weapons or running people over then it is padding... so many people get there combat badges that way.  It is a big flaw in the stats system,  but I don't think that they should change it now. 

In my opinion when you take the command position it should be like your using a different kit,  with artillery as explosives/equipment.  You would still have the kit that you spawn with but all the kills would go under the commander and witch ever weapon/vehicle was used.  That would stop the padding by command and allow us to see who is actually commanding and who is using command to go into battle because of large discrepancy's between Arty kills and Commander kills.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

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Anyway, if any of you guys don't care about getting a specific badge legit that's fine but it's lame as hell to criticize someone else who does want to earn them the way it was intended; you may not like the term padding being used for this but come on, it is a form of it.

I got veteran sniper one time and veteran spec. ops as commander, plus maybe veteran medic combat, and I have to say it made me feel cheap once I got serious about the game, especially on the sniper one as I wanted to earn it properly. I made up for it later (have four or five of them) but still, I had to deliberately not play as commander once I'd met the time requirement until I got expert for fear of maybe getting it through artie kills.

I totally agree!  Since they reset people for team switching for the WCR I would not be surprised if the reset people for this too.  I would not think they should as vehicles are a big part of the game and you can get any of the combat badges in a plane even though plane skill has nothing to do with the particular kits. But again I think they should have made it so that there was no Kit kills earned for the use of a tank(some fine tuning for the back seats of a vodkit/black hawk/hmmv where you using the kit weapons but still in the vehicle).  To earn a Expert combat badge and Expert vehicle badge in one round you would need 64 kills( 40 on foot and 24 in a particular vehicle).

Last edited by cheshiremoe (2006-07-14 10:31:38)

Got my expert sitting in the HJ-8 in the square at Karkand, all those pretty APC's an humvee's that just love to eat my missly goodness.

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