building first computer

2006-06-02 19:12:33

#1

Paco_the_Insane: Phorum Phantom; +244|6647|Ohio

EDITED 11/2/06

As of today, I have not yet bought a computer. But I think I am really close, so tell me what you think of this. I cant quite afford it yet, but christmas is just around the corner...

CP2-DUO-E6300 :: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Dual-Core / OEM / Socket 775 / Processor (0.1 lbs)
In Stock $179.00 $179.00

M452-2648 :: MSI P965 Neo-F Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA (3 lbs)
In Stock $99.99 $99.99

TC3J-2192 :: Cooler Master Ammo 533 Black/Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case with Front USB, FireWire and Audio Ports With Ultra XVS 600-Watt PSU and Lite-On 16x DVDRW (35 lbs)
In Stock $159.99 $159.99

E145-7884 :: EVGA GeForce 7900 GT KO / 256MB GDDR3 / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card with FREE copy of Half Life 2: Episode One PC Game (1 lbs)
In Stock $219.99 $219.99

O261-8032 :: OCZ Dual Channel XTC 2048MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz Gamer Memory (2 x 1024MB) (0.5 lbs)
In Stock $239.99 $239.99

THD-250A2 :: Seagate / 250GB / 7200 / 8MB / ATA-100 / OEM / Hard Drive (1 lbs)
In Stock $79.99 $79.99

TOTAL: $978.95

Last edited by Paco_the_Insane (2006-11-02 09:23:16)

2006-06-02 19:25:43

#2

Annihilatorll: Member; +0|6544

That looks ok if you are planning on running bf2 with mediumish settings. If i were you i would invest in a little better processor (maybe the 3800+). Also, BF2 is a huge memory guzzler. I recommend at least 1.5GB (or more). Otherwise that looks pretty solid. :-D

2006-06-02 19:28:48

#3

Computer_Guy: Member; +54|6699

go with an 8ms monitor
1 more gb of ram
go with a 3800 or a dual core 3800

2006-06-02 19:30:00

#4

Paco_the_Insane: Phorum Phantom; +244|6647|Ohio

I only have $700 give or take

2006-06-02 19:30:56

#5

Janus67: Tech God; +86|6597|Ohio, USA

get your items from newegg (assuming you are from the states) tigerdirect's customer service is terrible.

oh and, get 2gb of ram and get a real power supply that comes with the case. The only decent case that comes with a good power supply is the Antec Sonata II (comes with an Antec 450W TruepowerII).

2006-06-03 02:40:14

#6

acdc: Member; +37|6578|SEATTLE, WA

CASE: Lian Li PC-60BPLUSII Black Computer Case

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112100

PSU: PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI-PFC 510W Power Supply

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817703001

MOBO: ASUS A8N-SLI Premium

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539

MEMORY: CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145575

GPU: eVGA Geforce 7600GT 256-P2-N554-AX Video Card

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130017

MONITOR: ViewSonic VX922 Black/Silver 19" 2ms LCD Monitor

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116375

MOUSE: Logitech MX518 2-Tone Mouse

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104178

Last edited by acdc (2006-06-03 02:40:34)

2006-06-03 07:35:45

#7

Janus67: Tech God; +86|6597|Ohio, USA

acdc wrote:
CASE: Lian Li PC-60BPLUSII Black Computer Case

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112100

PSU: PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI-PFC 510W Power Supply

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817703001

MOBO: ASUS A8N-SLI Premium

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539

MEMORY: CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145575

GPU: eVGA Geforce 7600GT 256-P2-N554-AX Video Card

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130017

MONITOR: ViewSonic VX922 Black/Silver 19" 2ms LCD Monitor

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116375

MOUSE: Logitech MX518 2-Tone Mouse

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104178

as excellent as the PC Power and Cooling power supply it is is completely out of his price range. He would be fine getting a $75 power supply instead over one that is over $200

If you dropoff the power supply/case to the Antec Sonata II ($100 total) and get an Asus A8N-E I think that will be pretty close to your budget.

2006-06-03 07:42:36

#8

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6718

i agree w/ what hes getting, but if he can save up more and wait till conroe. but if u desperately need a pc now, then for ram go w/ g.skill, they are uber cheap.

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2006-06-03 08:27:26

#9

Paco_the_Insane: Phorum Phantom; +244|6647|Ohio

im gonna double the ram that i have up there, and lose the monitor

i can use an old one untill i can aford a new one.

2006-06-03 08:48:08

#10

Janus67: Tech God; +86|6597|Ohio, USA

i still recommend changing out the case/power supply to one that is better or else you will regret it when it fails and your parts go up in smoke.

2006-06-03 09:07:54

#11

Paco_the_Insane: Phorum Phantom; +244|6647|Ohio

i have a friend with the same case and he loves it

2006-06-03 09:21:07

#12

siciliano732: Member; +202|6651|New York

Paco_the_Insane wrote:
I only have $700 give or take

If you only have $700....do what i did...i literally just built a new one last week.....

i got:

AMD Athlon 64 3500 processor
ASUS A8N-VM motherboard
Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT graphics card
2 GB Corsair TwinX XMS RAM
Rosewill RP500 ATX 500W power supply

and i can play everything on HIGH settings without a problem....and i think it all came out to be around $600-$700

if your on a budget....go for something like that....i did alot of researching and comparing of prices for MONTHS!

check sites like newegg.com, pricewatch.com, tigerdirect.com, zipzoomfly.com.....i ordered from pricewatch and newegg....

lemme know if you have any other questions....but i hope that helps.....it all depends on what type of system your trying to build....me, BF2 is the only game i play, and i wanted it to play it on high settings but under a budget and be able to do everyday use too....if your lookin for a powerhouse, your goin to spend more....

Last edited by siciliano732 (2006-06-03 09:22:13)

2006-06-03 14:46:18

#13

acdc: Member; +37|6578|SEATTLE, WA

Buying a $80 PSU was the worst mistake I ever did with my first box. It is so worth it to spend the extra money on the PSU to get a quality brand that won't crap out and possibly screw up other components.

2006-06-03 16:22:45

#14

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6569|NYC / Hamburg

acdc wrote:
Buying a $80 PSU was the worst mistake I ever did with my first box. It is so worth it to spend the extra money on the PSU to get a quality brand that won't crap out and possibly screw up other components.

you are right ... i never had a cheapo one in a self-build (always had enermax - seems that they are the only well know make availible in switzerland) and they have always worked great. but my old P II that was bought finished (hey i was like 10 back then) fried because of the cheap PSU. So did my dad's P III dell, my neighbours no-make athlon xp, ..... . Therefore: PSU is one of the few components where make really does matter

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2006-06-03 16:27:17

#15

Widjerd: I like sausage; +18|6543|Bristol UK

be careful with RAM, it can be fickle when it doesnt want to work - check the cas latency and make sure the pinnage and mhz are all compatible with your motherboard dah dee dah dah...

2006-06-03 17:33:05

#16

Janus67: Tech God; +86|6597|Ohio, USA

acdc wrote:
Buying a $80 PSU was the worst mistake I ever did with my first box. It is so worth it to spend the extra money on the PSU to get a quality brand that won't crap out and possibly screw up other components.

well and $80 power supply should be fine, I am speaking of those that cost $50 and other. I think that some of the best bang-forthe-buck PSUs cost about $75-$80. Being the 500W Antec TruePowerII and the Fortron (FSP-Group) AX-500.

2006-06-03 23:08:28

#17

-101-InvaderZim: Member; +42|6846|Waikato, Aotearoa

Looks like a solid PC there dude

If all you are doing is playing games and not much else then stick with the single core CPU. If you are looking to do more stuff (like burning DVDs while playing games) then get a dual core CPU.
Increase the processor to AMD 3500+ or 3700+
Increase the RAM to 2GB tho (more RAM is good)
And finally match the 7600GTs and SLi them. (7600GT + 7600GT)
Cost will prolly be around the $1500 but well worth it

My 2 cents

2006-06-03 23:16:26

#18

washow: Get out of MY JET!!!; +23|6714

WAIT FOR THE FU***NG CONROE DAM IT

it's coming out exactly on july 24th, and it will perform 40% better then fx-60 even at lower model
the XE version can be OC'd to over 5ghz atm and the E6600 which will cost less then $220, can be OC'd over 3ghz on air

of course it will be MUCH BETTER COMP
and if you really need the computer right now, get am2 socket cuz s939 is obsolete now

2006-06-05 03:22:06

#19

-101-InvaderZim: Member; +42|6846|Waikato, Aotearoa

Yo Siciliano,
You a man after my own heart dude Yay @ last someone with reasonable specs and expextations for a change
Very refreshing
+1 karma 4 u dude

2006-06-06 05:54:37

#20

siciliano732: Member; +202|6651|New York

what did i do?! lol, just tryin to give the kid what he is really lookin for....a good computer with a budget....too many people throw these rediculous pieces of hardware at him that, sure, would be great to have but when your under a budget....its not possible. but thank you for the karma.....+1 for you

2006-06-06 06:17:16

#21

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6718

washow wrote:
WAIT FOR THE FU***NG CONROE DAM IT

it's coming out exactly on july 24th, and it will perform 40% better then fx-60 even at lower model
the XE version can be OC'd to over 5ghz atm and the E6600 which will cost less then $220, can be OC'd over 3ghz on air

of course it will be MUCH BETTER COMP
and if you really need the computer right now, get am2 socket cuz s939 is obsolete now

i love u lol conroe can reach 3.6ghz on a tuniq tower 120... very large air cooler

be patient, conroes are really cheap ($220 beats FX60) boards are around 200 bucks, get a 7600gt, dont SLI, if u can save up get a 7900GT, great card (new revisions allows to overclock more stably) get 2X1GB G.skill ddr2 800 (cl=4) ram thats 200 dollars, WD 250 gb sata drive around 70 dollars, quality psu 90 bucks (enermax = pwnage) case 150 dollars.

all that will be around 1300 dollars

2006-06-06 13:58:32

#22

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6774|PNW

AMD 3700+, 2GB (2x1GB module) Corsair or OCZ memory.

Put down an extra $40 on this book, to save you lots of trouble and 'professional' troubleshooting expenses:

Upgrading and Repairing PCs (17th Ed.).

This series is used privately, in business, and for college coursework. Well put together, descriptive, and doesn't talk down to you.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-06-06 14:02:03)

2006-07-14 00:18:05

#23

Paco_the_Insane: Phorum Phantom; +244|6647|Ohio

ok, revisiting this old thing. havent gotten anything yet, still looking around.
new list

A455-2112 F :: Asus A8N SLI Deluxe Socket 939 Barebone Kit / AMD Athlon 64 3500+ OEM / 512MB DDR PC3200 / CPU Fan / ATX Mid-Tower / 500 Watt Power Supply (19.2 lbs)
Usually Ships in 7 - 21 Days $399.99 $399.99

ULT31897 :: Ultra 2048MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) (0.5 lbs)
In Stock $199.99 $199.99

TSD-160AS3 :: Seagate / 160GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive (3 lbs)
In Stock $89.99 $89.99

E145-7836 :: EVGA GeForce 7600 GT CO SuperClocked / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card (1 lbs)
In Stock $199.99 $199.99

L12-1076 :: Lite-on SHM-160P6S / 16x8x16x DVD+RW / 16x6x16x DVD-RW / 8x DVD+R DL / 4x DVD-R DL / 48x24x48x CD-RW / Black/Beige Faceplates / Internal / DVD Writer (3 lbs)
In Stock $49.99 $49.99

2006-07-14 09:23:33

#24

ssonrats: Member; +221|6647

Don't forget, you need a heatsink/fan for the processor and some thermal paste for effective heat transfer.

Last edited by ssonrats (2006-07-14 09:24:32)

2006-07-14 09:26:05

#25

=TFF=Omen_NataS: Member; +60|6542

Question I'm getting the AMD 64 X2 5000 and a 7900gt will i be able to run BF2 on high graphics [With 2GB of Memory]

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