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does it unfreeze again or hang/ctd/bluescreen?

At first guess, and given the summer heat... cooling.  Does running with the case open make a difference?  Also you could try the newer 91.31 NVidia drivers, and if that doesn't work reference driver (77.something) on the BF2 CD and see if that makes a difference.

theres been loads of server crashing recently, well that ive noticed - could be this?

if its  a cooling problem- where is the case located? on the floor or on a desk.  either way try opening it up and vacuuming the heat sink. alot of dust collects there and cause all sorts of funky problems.  computers hate heat.

Yeah I get it every now and then, usually happens when I'm playing in an AF map, like Operation Road Rage, I get in an A10, or wheel out in a jeep then the game just... freezes... I think I'm getting punkbusted out or something all "Okay fine, I took a vehicle, let the admin kick me..." but then it just sits there, so I too have to end up rebooting my computer, thought it was video drivers so I updated them to the most recent, even updated the bios so the video card wouldn't conflict, got plenty of RAM, I just came to the justification that it's 1.3.

This damn, evil patch we all love so much to hate.

If screwing with video drivers doesn't work, then to me it looks like either a memory or an overheating problem, or a combination of both. Memory problems sometimes result in instant reboot, though, so the first step would be to make sure that the inside of your chassis is able to stay cool during this summer heat. If you don't have water cooling, I absolutely recommend a household air contitioner to suppress ambient heat. If you have a sliding window, you can get air conditioners that will fit within the frame, which would be cheaper than carving a hole in your wall. As mine also tends to blow lots of dust around, I have an air cleaner right beneath it set to low. If it isn't heat, then download and run MemtestX86 to check your memory for problems.

Sometimes, the problem is alot more simple. Scan your computer for malware using programs such as avast!, AVG, adaware and spybot. Remove anything that shouldn't be there, and then defragment your system.

I get this prob too. on occasions. onlu had 1 fan my v/card has no fan(getting a new one) and i put 2 more fans in it.dropped tem by40degrees. was getting to 80
havnt had  problem yet

Snipedya14 wrote:

How can you begin to suggest a heat problem if you do not know his temps?

May I recommend downlaoding and looking at you CPU idle temps with speedfan. Link
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php

Or you could also go into BIOS and check (some BIOS's will not show you however)

Then you could use a CPU intensive program such as CPU-Burn-in and check out your load temps.
Link http://users.bigpond.net.au/cpuburn/

While you are at it, check for any MiniDumps (event viewer etc) If there are any, Id be more than happy to read them and help diagnose.

Well, you can begin to suggest a heat problem and suggest the very simple test of running the PC with the case side off because it has the exact symptoms which a heat problem would cause. 

Btw, you forgot to mention checking the graphics card temp plus how to check it... maybe since it is an overclocked edition it may not have been tested thoroughly with the kind of ambient heat the summer brings.  I used to get random freezes, resets and bluescreens, and my graphics card driver reported temps up to 120C, but now I've put a huge gpu cooler and 2 extra fans over the card I barely touch 60C.

Snipedya14 wrote:

Oh I am not saying heat could not be an issue. People are suggesting buying fans, duct work, AC units. From my short (but growing) work in the IT field, if you suggest expensive remedy you better be damn sure that is the problem.

And you have not really diagnosed the problem, just narrowed it down to a few different things. Since there is most likely Thermal Protection on the Mobo, the PC would do an instant shut off if the temps got to high. Also, with newer CPUs, they will throttle themselves back to a lower clock speed, which is often why high temps, will cause lag, but it is not the heat itself.

You are right in my omission of the Video Cards temps. That is another place to start.

Completely agree, wouldn't suggest to anyone to buy any new hardware without being sure what the problem is. 

I haven't even started to suggest I've diagnosed problem, I've just suggested eliminating one of the likely suspects first.  Once I'm sure that heat is not causing the problem then I'd start doing the more extreme tests like memtest, and checking PSU output under load.  There are so many things that can go wrong with a PC.  Once someone brought me a PC which was crashing intermittantly and it turned out a screw had got wedged under the motherboard and as they jogged the table the screw wobbling was causing occasional connection to the tracks.  Another time someone gashed a set of tracks with a screwdriver when installing the board.  And not to mention there are so many ways that motherboards can develop faults it's unreal... luckily manufacturers will replace them if it's their fault.

With regards to the automatic thermal warnings, shutdown and throttling, a faulty component may have different tolerances and so suffer faults and corrupted data at lower temperatures than a non-faulty component, so if physically lowering the temperature makes a difference you can set a lower warning temp and use more effective cooling rather than replace the component.

I should say that if running it with the case off seems to be an improvement but there are still less occasional freezes then try a large desk fan pointing directly into the case and try again... sounds crazy, but it's quite effective.

Viper007Bond wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

h2ostg2 wrote:

if its  a cooling problem- where is the case located? on the floor or on a desk.  either way try opening it up and vacuuming the heat sink. alot of dust collects there and cause all sorts of funky problems.  computers hate heat.

i doubt it, he has AMD which are a hell lot cooler than intel cpus.

Uh, to the best of my knowledge, it's the other way around...

Well with the older AMD chips it is. THe old XPs got really damn hot.(Which is what he has) But cyborg_ninja is right about modern Athlons. If you compare them to a Prescott core, the AMD is much much cooler.

Last edited by Snipedya14 (2006-07-09 06:43:49)