http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/ … index.html
LMMFAO!!!............I guess it is the same in EVERY country....
LMMFAO!!!............I guess it is the same in EVERY country....
are you trying to say that votes have NEVER been tampered with?
It happens ALOT in central and south america, or there is simply a military coup
It happens ALOT in central and south america, or there is simply a military coup
slash owned.BN wrote:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Mexico_Presidential_Election_Ballots_Found_in_0706.html
in English pleaseBen>You wrote:
slash owned.
maybe he thinks your news owned the topic? Looks like ownage to me
Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-07-06 19:53:59)
Nope, what I am trying to say is, you only seem to hear of voter fraud, and a bunch of whinning and bitching when LIBERALS LOSE!! lolSpumantiii wrote:
are you trying to say that votes have NEVER been tampered with?
It happens ALOT in central and south america, or there is simply a military coup
If it is a bunch of votes found in the dump, yet no one seems to know who the votes were for, liberal? conservative? or both?? lolBN wrote:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Mexico_Presidential_Election_Ballots_Found_in_0706.html
either way, if the liberals won, I bet these ballads would have never been found. I also bet if truth be known, they were stashed so they could be be "found" later in case of defeat. Since it seems the liberals seem to love to go digging through dumpsters right after a vote, and in allllllllll of Mexico they know exactly which dumpsters to go crawling in......LMAO!!
*ballots. Ballads are poems.
the conservatives likewise have their own tricks up their sleeves I'm sure, like screwing with the vote
lol
the conservatives likewise have their own tricks up their sleeves I'm sure, like screwing with the vote
lol
Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-07-06 20:39:49)
thanks for the correction, believe it or not, I know the difference.Spumantiii wrote:
*ballots. Ballads are poems.
I don't think I can be bothered with discourse about ideology with you. You'll probably just try to make me look bad. You seem beyond considering anything other than what you believe.
I am very open minded to any solutions anyone has to offer. The only problem is, the left don't offer solutions, they sit back and bitch about everything else that wasn't their idea.
there have never been any real or logical solutions offered by anyone on the left about the current issues that didn't involve a "peace at any price" attitude.
I will bow to this if you can name me a single time that the conservatives screamed voter fraud and cried for a recount after the loss of an election.Spumantiii wrote:
*ballots. Ballads are poems.
the conservatives likewise have their own tricks up their sleeves I'm sure, like screwing with the vote
lol
Last edited by lowing (2006-07-06 20:44:15)
a solution to which problem?
yeah boiiiiSpumantiii wrote:
maybe he thinks your news owned the topic? Looks like ownage to me
slash owned = /owned..
maybe I can use babelfishBen>You wrote:
slash owned = /owned..
hahahha the babelfish proved god does not exist
*hitchhiker's guide
*hitchhiker's guide
Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-07-06 20:50:49)
I am pretty sure "razor-thin" had something to do with both elections.
Quoted from the posted link: "gave conservative Felipe Calderon a razor-thin victory"
Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presi … tion,_2000 : "George W. Bush won Florida's 25 electoral votes by a razor-thin margin"
I think regardless of a Liberal losing, the fact that the vote was so close that it caused the appeal for a recount. I highly doubt any Conservative would yield if the tables were turned.
Quoted from the posted link: "gave conservative Felipe Calderon a razor-thin victory"
Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presi … tion,_2000 : "George W. Bush won Florida's 25 electoral votes by a razor-thin margin"
I think regardless of a Liberal losing, the fact that the vote was so close that it caused the appeal for a recount. I highly doubt any Conservative would yield if the tables were turned.
You're right, I have never heard of Liberals rigging an election. Good point.lowing wrote:
Nope, what I am trying to say is, you only seem to hear of voter fraud, and a bunch of whinning and bitching when LIBERALS LOSE!! lol
The Liberal candidate was for better social welfare and the ballots were in a poor area. Who do you think they were for?lowing wrote:
If it is a bunch of votes found in the dump, yet no one seems to know who the votes were for, liberal? conservative? or both?? lol
Or it could be the fact that residents noticed ballots stuffed into a dumpster. Or, are ordinary people incapable of making discoveries?lowing wrote:
Since it seems the liberals seem to love to go digging through dumpsters right after a vote, and in allllllllll of Mexico they know exactly which dumpsters to go crawling in......LMAO!!
I also love how fond you are of saying Liberals offer no solutions. Give me a problem, I'll give you a solution.
Last edited by Bubbalo (2006-07-06 23:53:40)
lowing:
apparently it happened in the UK,
http://www.lfpress.ca/perl-bin/niveau2. … ml&a=1
and in virginia,
http://vaconservative.com/archives/2005 … recount-ma
how the media that called for a recount, not the dems
http://pbs-newshour.onstreammedia.com/c … 2100dness/
(windows media player)
^good arguments
apparently it happened in the UK,
http://www.lfpress.ca/perl-bin/niveau2. … ml&a=1
and in virginia,
http://vaconservative.com/archives/2005 … recount-ma
how the media that called for a recount, not the dems
http://pbs-newshour.onstreammedia.com/c … 2100dness/
(windows media player)
^good arguments
Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-07-07 00:51:18)
It happened in Italy too.lowing wrote:
I will bow to this if you can name me a single time that the conservatives screamed voter fraud and cried for a recount after the loss of an election.
I hope the conservative wins, hes More American Friendly. Maybe this guy will help out with the Border? That would be nice for a change, instead of handing out fake papers like Fox does now.
Then again, maybe better social security would mean they wouldn't want to immigrate.
*Shock horror, a Liberal offering a solution! I can feel the world imploding as the laws of reality are broken. For lowing, anyway.
*Shock horror, a Liberal offering a solution! I can feel the world imploding as the laws of reality are broken. For lowing, anyway.
looked at all links, and not one mentioned a concervative screaming voter fraud or bitching that they lost and they want a recount UNTIL they win, sorry.Spumantiii wrote:
lowing:
apparently it happened in the UK,
http://www.lfpress.ca/perl-bin/niveau2. … ml&a=1
and in virginia,
http://vaconservative.com/archives/2005 … recount-ma
how the media that called for a recount, not the dems
http://pbs-newshour.onstreammedia.com/c … 2100dness/
(windows media player)
^good arguments
Why bother trying to offer solutions now Bubbalo, we have spent weeks talking about various issues and you have never offered any before. Again, "Peace at any price" is NOT a solution.Bubbalo wrote:
You're right, I have never heard of Liberals rigging an election. Good point.lowing wrote:
Nope, what I am trying to say is, you only seem to hear of voter fraud, and a bunch of whining and bitching when LIBERALS LOSE!! lol
thx for making my point, whine and bitch about a rigged election, never mind ALL recounts came up the same way, Bush won.The Liberal candidate was for better social welfare and the ballots were in a poor area. Who do you think they were for?lowing wrote:
If it is a bunch of votes found in the dump, yet no one seems to know who the votes were for, liberal? conservative? or both?? lol
I dunno maybe they should find out firstOr it could be the fact that residents noticed ballots stuffed into a dumpster. Or, are ordinary people incapable of making discoveries?lowing wrote:
Since it seems the liberals seem to love to go digging through dumpsters right after a vote, and in allllllllll of Mexico they know exactly which dumpsters to go crawling in......LMAO!!
sureeeeeeee, all the "ordinary" people I know make dumpster discoveries everyday. It is a hobby they have.
I also love how fond you are of saying Liberals offer no solutions. Give me a problem, I'll give you a solution.
yeah social security has done wonders here, solved allllll our problems...............next.Bubbalo wrote:
Then again, maybe better social security would mean they wouldn't want to immigrate.
*Shock horror, a Liberal offering a solution! I can feel the world imploding as the laws of reality are broken. For lowing, anyway.
Last edited by lowing (2006-07-07 03:49:39)
Then what are your solutions Lowing, i'd like to hear them ?
And it happened in Italy, Berlusconi lost the elections and asked for a recount of the votes.
And when the votes where counted again and proved he had lost, he still did not accept it.
And it happened in Italy, Berlusconi lost the elections and asked for a recount of the votes.
And when the votes where counted again and proved he had lost, he still did not accept it.
I have no soluions to the worlds problems. That is why I am bitching and complaining about those that are at least TRYING to solve them.one_of_ten wrote:
Then what are your solutions Lowing, i'd like to hear them ?
And it happened in Italy, Berlusconi lost the elections and asked for a recount of the votes.
And when the votes where counted again and proved he had lost, he still did not accept it.
As far as the war goes, I agree with it, I think it could be won easier if the rest of the countries NOT in the coalition would step up to the plate and take an active roll in battling islamic terrorism. I think that would disrupt the money flow, as well as make it impossible for these terrorists to train an organize. I only say this since they don't have a country of their own and are training and organizing in SOMEONES country, and if they do have a sponsoring country, it gets attacked.
Italy, please post the article, so I can read about how Berusconi organized street riots after his loss.
I've offered plenty of solutions. Given that you mention "Peace at any price", which reflects neither my opinions nor my statements, I assume you are talking about terrorism. My solution, as I have stated before (several times, IIRC), is to attempt to prove to those who would become terrorists that we bear no ill will towards them. Of course, before we do this we must bear no ill will towards them, which is something we'll have to work on. You want me to be more specific? Ok, how about we do something about all the Palestinians in refugee camps, and apologise for our previous support of dictatorships friendly to the West at the cost of the happiness of civilians.lowing wrote:
Why bother trying to offer solutions now Bubbalo, we have spent weeks talking about various issues and you have never offered any before. Again, "Peace at any price" is NOT a solution.
So you're trying to tell me that the reason Mexicans are flooding across the border has nothing to do with the fact that they feel they aren't getting proper basic living supplies at home?lowing wrote:
yeah social security has done wonders here, solved allllll our problems...............next.
Regardless, it isn't enough to say you don't believe the solution would work. Your problem wasn't that the left never solved problems, but that they never offered solutions. I might point out that Bush's solution has yet to prove effective, and terrorist issues can not yet be claimed to be solved.
When has a Liberal said they would take an election to court until they were elected?lowing wrote:
looked at all links, and not one mentioned a concervative screaming voter fraud or bitching that they lost and they want a recount UNTIL they win, sorry.
What Liberal organised street riots?lowing wrote:
Italy, please post the article, so I can read about how Berusconi organized street riots after his loss.
Last edited by Bubbalo (2006-07-07 04:18:15)
I found this :
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04 … index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04 … index.html
Looks like the same thing happened in Italy too :
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04 … index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04 … index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04 … index.html
Looks like the same thing happened in Italy too :
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04 … index.html
I wonder if the leftist cadidate in Mexico thinks he invented the internet too?