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destruktion_6143 wrote:

y dont u just spawn elsewhere, or get ur own tank and take em out. theres no restriction on where u can spawn. if theres a tank at the hotel spawn at the square and c4 or erryx him. quite making these stupid rules {ta}

edit: since when does firestorm post here? my guess, its an imposter.

OpsChief wrote:

Kolhozik wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

y dont u just spawn elsewhere, or get ur own tank and take em out. theres no restriction on where u can spawn. if theres a tank at the hotel spawn at the square and c4 or erryx him. quite making these stupid rules {ta}

edit: since when does firestorm post here? my guess, its an imposter.

Please read my post.

And Firestorm does not make the rules, the core does, he and other admins enforce the rules.

If I can show you how that spawn fence is breaking 2-3 EA ROE rules would you change it?

Last edited by Kolhozik (2006-07-05 22:51:52)

Kolhozik wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

y dont u just spawn elsewhere, or get ur own tank and take em out. theres no restriction on where u can spawn. if theres a tank at the hotel spawn at the square and c4 or erryx him. quite making these stupid rules {ta}

edit: since when does firestorm post here? my guess, its an imposter.

Please read my post.

And Firestorm does not make the rules, the core does, he and other admins enforce the rules.

{TA}FireStorm wrote:

Phoenix2 wrote:

Is it considered spawn camping with armor if you sit the tank on the main road by the two Gas Station spawnpoints? (Looking for an Admin to answer)

no.center road is ok,its the alleys we keep camper free.

OpsChief wrote:

{TA}FireStorm wrote:

OpsChief wrote:

If I can show you how that spawn fence is breaking 2-3 EA ROE rules would you change it?

BF ROE rules do not apply to private run servers only EA servers,to clarify this contact BF2RS admins
they will enlighten you on this.
as stated 5,000,000X befor if you dont like a servers rules....play elsewhere simple as that.
our servers are full 24/7 is yours?

lol well very interesting bud, first I will say I am interested in keeping BF2 alive and well as Im sure you are.  But alive as it was designed not this lesser CounterStrike in BF2 wrapping that it has become on so many servers. BF2 ROE applies to any ranked server participating in ranked play last I knew. If not how is it they pull ranked status???

Firestorm You dismiss me so quickly after I have spent many many words in so many threads and PMs defending moongamers right to work within the ROE, and with exactly what you say to me here, "go play somewhere else". I have gone. I speak up to let people know they are allowed to go elsewhere and that they should follow posted server rules. Disrespecting an admin for enforcing rules is noobish, in-game. Calling the rules to question in a public forum is proper.

To your 24/7 comment -I guess I missed something at some point, is it important that my server is full 24/7? Could this be Ad Homenim? lol My server's bigger than yours???  you've been playin with the kiddies too much m8!!! We're too damn old to smack that way, I think.  Back to topic...

The ROE does apply to all ranked servers when certain circumstances occur regarding exploiting the game in combination with limits on weapons and other manipulations. Within the spawn fenced area of moongamers karkand server it appears to be in violation but - maybe that the rest of Karkand is still open makes it OK??? As long as armor is allowed to shoot anywhere else it OK even if there are no targets!!! 

I make no accusation. I merely observe and report and suggest a re-evaluation of a possible violation. Surely accidental based on incremental creepage of customer demand. Besides a reassessment from time to time is good business ethics, don't you agree?

Moongamers are within their right to have private rules until such time as they violate ranked server ROE.

The Moongamer spawn fences create a massively increased sustained score per minute cycle exceeding the game design second only to knife-revive or similar padding cycles and upsetting the ranked games >< delicate balance (OK the delicate part isn't your fault). In effect Moongamers is enabling a form of stat padding that more or less forces anyone in the fenced playground to participate. When played as BF2 was designed the hotel is a useless $20 a night fleabag. Your design is like playing 64 players on a 16 player map. The rape fence at the USMC arty firebases completely ruins any shred of strategic value in a game. Was this what BF2 intended? If the map was designed with points and play balance for each map scenario and you change it to increase stats this is a violation. To allow AT and other kits to fire out at armor that may not fire back at them is not within the ROE.

Moongamer users are sharing in the global points system so should be playing more standard games. As it is now Moongamers Karkand Hotel is stat tweaked, pure and simple. A little data capture will show it easily. I am not the only one who sees it, many people have said they like the high points they get there.

Is this the price to pay to keep the server 30+ 24/7? Those rules have turned admins into hired hitmen for the noobs who can't figure out where to spawn and what to spawn with and how to fight strategically. Well some can but they don't want to because they will get fewer points, which is kind of worse don't you think? What those few who get it want is noob targets downrange to pump up their stats.

Moongamers Karkand has too many rules to enforce by too few admins who would rather be playing - and they have said so many times and nobody can blame that sentiment. Take down the fences for a day and play the 360 degree non-linear battlefield. Its the way this game was meant to be played.

Anyway good luck and have some fun

Edit: 2nd paragraph for noob grammar/spelling errors

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