RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6809|Oxford
Nice...winning those hearts and minds. By the way hearts and minds isn't a list of bodyparts to aim for...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … Id=5529884
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7050|Marathon, Florida Keys
he had a mental disorder
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RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6809|Oxford
"personality disorder"...and what about the others?
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7050|Marathon, Florida Keys
this may not necessarily be MY opinion, but for the amount an average soldier goes through, and how little they get paid, i think the Government/Army have bigger fish to fry.
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RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6809|Oxford
I'm not sure if you're defending the actions of these soldiers or trying to convince me it's not that bad?
Cactusfist
Pusher of sausages Down Hallways
+26|6809
Doesn't say what personality disorder. Plus, doesn't mean he didn't do it because he had one.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6894

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

this may not necessarily be MY opinion, but for the amount an average soldier goes through, and how little they get paid, i think the Government/Army have bigger fish to fry.
Okay, so what's more important than stopping groups of (allegedly) child molesting murderous soldiers from performing acts of terrorism?  Maybe you think that the civilian police should stop chasing murderers and child rapists too, because they have 'bigger fish to fry'?
arson
Member
+99|6877|New York
Snorkelfarsan
Soup Boy
+32|6847|Stockholm, Sweden
I am not in anyway defending that lunatic. But somthing that hs to be made clear is that he did not do that because he is an american. Nor because he a soldier in Iraq. Simply because he is retarded and full of hatred or somtehing.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6894

Snorkelfarsan wrote:

I am not in anyway defending that lunatic. But somthing that hs to be made clear is that he did not do that because he is an american. Nor because he a soldier in Iraq. Simply because he is retarded and full of hatred or somtehing.
And the others?
Ottomania
Troll has returned.
+62|6762|Istanbul-Turkey
these one is the known one. what about unknowns???
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6809|Oxford

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

this may not necessarily be MY opinion, but for the amount an average soldier goes through, and how little they get paid, i think the Government/Army have bigger fish to fry.
If you change 'fish' for 'Iraqi' your comment almost makes sense...
Asianwaste
Member
+7|6746
As a former member of the military, I can say that we've got the best and the brightest to compensate having some of the worst examples of human life.  People like him don't represent who we are much like people like Bin Laden and Zarquarwi don't represent the average person from the Middle East.  In the end, we're all human beings and are all capable of doing horrible things.
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6809|Oxford
I'd say the US army has some serious recruitment issues...
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6790|Southeastern USA
Oh, you mean the soldiers that are being arrested and tried? Guess what, the justice system is working, isn't this where you libs usually say something like "he shouldn't go to jail, we need to send him to therapy and find out why he did that" or some such crap, if he's guilty, hang him, as for the soldiers that didn't participate, they were wrong in covering it up, but deserve some consideration as to what they go through as their lives depend on each other sticking together, however most of the squads I've known would have dealt with this guy differently. Congratulations, you found one out of how many hundreds of thousands coalition fighters that is (most likely, I still have to stick with "innocent until proven guilty) actually guilty of what the lib press accuses them of on a daily basis. Even a broken clock's right twice a day.
Jainus
Member
+30|6817|Herts, UK
You'll always get criminals in every army, regardless if their American, Brit, Iraqi or part of the Penguin Liberation front. At least this came to light and they can try adn sort it, don't hold out much hope mind.

But you'll notice how you never hear in the news about the good stuff that our guys are doing? Its always "Madman kills 60,000 and eats a banana afterwards"
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6957

RicardoBlanco wrote:

I'd say the US army has some serious recruitment issues...
Agree.

most of the recruit nowadays live in really poor area and a lot of crime... every army has crooks... its not just the US army
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Asianwaste
Member
+7|6746
Don't listen to everything the government says but also don't listen to everything the media says as well.  Historically, the government is known to lie or "bend the truth" which I won't even debate but the government is not the only guilty party.  Being forward deployed (won't and can't say where) I've watched the news on television and watch people who don't know what they are talking about report flat out lies with no ground basis whatsoever.  I remember turning my head to my buddy and both of us asking, "Uhh what?  That didn't happen here!"
The media likes to sensationalize and put things to a larger extremity than what it really is.  CNN is owned by Ted Turner who was once married to Hanoy Jane.  Both kind of have a bad agenda against the military IMO.  Some of the lies we hear from the media are only complimented by some of the bad things the government tries to cover up, but to be fair, bad things happen in war and in this day and age, hearing about bad things only fuels bad guys with guns.  Tactially trying to cover it up would save lives in the operation.  It's not morally correct, just possibly tactically correct.
=TFF=Omen_NataS
Member
+60|6781
I say send him back to Mahmoudiya and let the people deal with him. Where i'm from the police is to scared to go into the native areas, so whenever something happens in there the people take care of it themself's.
Example: If he is caught raping a girl, they tie him to a tree and everyone that want's to take a go at him beat the living shit out of him. Or if he steals they chop of his hand. Mental ilness or not, that is just plain sick.
And the fact that there were other soldiers involved makes it even worse [Just my $0.02 worth]
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6976|California
Hey another reason for protesters to get up in arms. 1 bad apple spoiling the bunch.

He should get what's coming to him, and then it should go away.
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6896|United States of America

RicardoBlanco wrote:

Nice...winning those hearts and minds. By the way hearts and minds isn't a list of bodyparts to aim for...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … Id=5529884
That is what happens when you send a liberal to war.  At least I assume that is the "personality disorder" they are talking about.

Now shouldn't you be marching in a gay pride parade or something?
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6809|Oxford

Major_Spittle wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

Nice...winning those hearts and minds. By the way hearts and minds isn't a list of bodyparts to aim for...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … Id=5529884
That is what happens when you send a liberal to war.  At least I assume that is the "personality disorder" they are talking about.

Now shouldn't you be marching in a gay pride parade or something?
No, thats what happens when you send undisciplined rednecks into war...I think his 'personality disorder' had something to do with raping that girl and burning her family, just a thought.

..as for the gay pride march jibe well, what can I say, funny and original.
PekkaA
Member
+36|6905|Finland

Erkut.hv wrote:

Hey another reason for protesters to get up in arms. 1 bad apple spoiling the bunch.

He should get what's coming to him, and then it should go away.
I think those who let him to army should be held responsible if he has mental problems.
-F8-Scotch
Member
+43|6810

kr@cker wrote:

Oh, you mean the soldiers that are being arrested and tried? Guess what, the justice system is working, isn't this where you libs usually say something like "he shouldn't go to jail, we need to send him to therapy and find out why he did that" or some such crap, if he's guilty, hang him, as for the soldiers that didn't participate, they were wrong in covering it up, but deserve some consideration as to what they go through as their lives depend on each other sticking together, however most of the squads I've known would have dealt with this guy differently. Congratulations, you found one out of how many hundreds of thousands coalition fighters that is (most likely, I still have to stick with "innocent until proven guilty) actually guilty of what the lib press accuses them of on a daily basis. Even a broken clock's right twice a day.
Yeah, hang him..there we go. So you want to kill United States soldiers then? Way to go smart guy! Of course we'd hate to ever find out if there is some semblance of reasoning behind his actions, perhaps a failure in the chain of command or with training practices. Naw, let's just hang 'em...Yeeeee fickin' haaaawww! Tell you what, why don't you tell me how many soldiers were executed in WW2, Vietnam, Korea or the Civil war, why they were executed and when the executions took place. Point, Eisenhowers sentenced 1 soldier to death for desertion throughout the entirety of the ETO, D-Day to VE day. If you have trouble reading big words I'd be happy to do the research for you.

I believe it's the Pentagon that's accusing him of doing these things. But everything is the Lib's fault right? Oh and I'm sure the Lib press can force a particular result of a trial, man...if only the liberals of America were weaker or else the conservatives were in charge. Crap, what country are we in? Oh yeah, the conservatives are in charge!

What's the deal with trying to pin these cases of abuse by America soldiers on liberals? Besides the fact that bashing liberals is the ONLY thing the Republican/Conservative party has going for it. Seeing that they can't do anything right, on time, completely or even competently. Republican run war, Republican run congress, Republican run administration. Man, us liberals really need to stop ruining everything by NOT being in power. Hey, can we depend on your vote in the fall Kr@cker?
SiMSaM16
Member
+48|6934|United States of America
You should change the name of this thread... you said "soldiers" when it was 1 person. Not everyone in the military is a nice, mentally stable person. You know people do this all over the world. Just because it was someone from the US and in the military you had to point it out.

I hate when people post crap like this. People get raped and killed everyday, but because they are a soldier from the US they are special. Stop trying to make the US look bad. There are bad people everywhere.

Last edited by SiMSaM16 (2006-07-06 09:34:57)

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