Who loses out? Nobody. Wtf are are you on?MOG Disciple wrote:
I believe what I believe, and I guess you believe what you believe. In the end who losses out?Konfusion0 wrote:
I don't see where this is going...are we seriously going to prove each other wrong? Or lets just say the aetheists against the christians (me being an aetheist who can be persuaded on some points )
Does anyone here seriously think he can win this discussion?
If I was wrong and there was no God I still am dead and kicking it back with you somewhere maybe playing battlefield 3020.
If I am right I will be in heaven with the Creator, mourning your death and torment that you will suffer in hell forevermore. I do not want this to be your fate.
Poll
Are you a Christian?
I would like to be | 50% | 50% - 157 | 50% | 50% - 157 | ||
I don't want anything to do with that! | 55% | 55% - 174 | 44% | 44% - 140 | ||
Total: 314 |
Joh 10:12 But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.CameronPoe wrote:
John 10:12 - And Jesus spake saying that the children of God should ignore some of the cheesier bits of the old testament.JaMDuDe wrote:
You guys are taking a few paragraphs from the entire bible, that were directions to people thousands of years ago, and saying they dont fit todays standards. Jesus cleared up or said not to do some of the things the old testament says is acceptable.
I think you have your verses wrong.
John 14:11 Verily I say unto thee that a lot of the stuff in this Good Book is a little far fetched, but please bear with me on this for a minute.MOG Disciple wrote:
Joh 10:12 But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.CameronPoe wrote:
John 10:12 - And Jesus spake saying that the children of God should ignore some of the cheesier bits of the old testament.JaMDuDe wrote:
You guys are taking a few paragraphs from the entire bible, that were directions to people thousands of years ago, and saying they dont fit todays standards. Jesus cleared up or said not to do some of the things the old testament says is acceptable.
I think you have your verses wrong.
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Cameron, just don't get started on Matthew's begats...
Dung 1:1 Unto thee I say three meals each day of beans and cabbage. And when the demons call after the setting of the sun, unto thy canine shall all woes be laid.CameronPoe wrote:
John 14:11 Verily I say unto thee that a lot of the stuff in this Good Book is a little far fetched, but please bear with me on this for a minute.MOG Disciple wrote:
Joh 10:12 But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.CameronPoe wrote:
John 10:12 - And Jesus spake saying that the children of God should ignore some of the cheesier bits of the old testament.
I think you have your verses wrong.
Proud not to belive in something that does not exists.
lol...
I really actually don't believe in religion at all. I think it's gonna cause the end of the world, because people are too fucking protective of their own, and too scared to possibly admit that god doesn't exist. K, what the HELL is telling you that god is real? A book. ONOZ! People say "you need faith". PFFFFFFFFFFFT.
What I think is that most religions that believe in god feel they need something to believe in. They can't accept the excuse that there MIGHT NOT BE AN AFTERLIFE! Well, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to dust.
And honestly, if you believe in anything involving Jesus...C'mon, Zombies?
I really actually don't believe in religion at all. I think it's gonna cause the end of the world, because people are too fucking protective of their own, and too scared to possibly admit that god doesn't exist. K, what the HELL is telling you that god is real? A book. ONOZ! People say "you need faith". PFFFFFFFFFFFT.
What I think is that most religions that believe in god feel they need something to believe in. They can't accept the excuse that there MIGHT NOT BE AN AFTERLIFE! Well, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to dust.
And honestly, if you believe in anything involving Jesus...C'mon, Zombies?
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I'm the Pope of the Church of Sinsbastard
Yeah all of the billions of people who believe in God believe it because a book tells them. You obviously dont know much about religion.Poseidon wrote:
lol...
I really actually don't believe in religion at all. I think it's gonna cause the end of the world, because people are too fucking protective of their own, and too scared to possibly admit that god doesn't exist. K, what the HELL is telling you that god is real? A book. ONOZ! People say "you need faith". PFFFFFFFFFFFT.
What I think is that most religions that believe in god feel they need something to believe in. They can't accept the excuse that there MIGHT NOT BE AN AFTERLIFE! Well, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to dust.
And honestly, if you believe in anything involving Jesus...C'mon, Zombies?
I find it hard to read anything you write with a straight face.JaMDuDe wrote:
Yeah all of the billions of people who believe in God believe it because a book tells them. You obviously dont know much about religion.Poseidon wrote:
lol...
I really actually don't believe in religion at all. I think it's gonna cause the end of the world, because people are too fucking protective of their own, and too scared to possibly admit that god doesn't exist. K, what the HELL is telling you that god is real? A book. ONOZ! People say "you need faith". PFFFFFFFFFFFT.
What I think is that most religions that believe in god feel they need something to believe in. They can't accept the excuse that there MIGHT NOT BE AN AFTERLIFE! Well, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to dust.
And honestly, if you believe in anything involving Jesus...C'mon, Zombies?
Please tell me about religion!JaMDuDe wrote:
Yeah all of the billions of people who believe in God believe it because a book tells them. You obviously dont know much about religion.Poseidon wrote:
lol...
I really actually don't believe in religion at all. I think it's gonna cause the end of the world, because people are too fucking protective of their own, and too scared to possibly admit that god doesn't exist. K, what the HELL is telling you that god is real? A book. ONOZ! People say "you need faith". PFFFFFFFFFFFT.
What I think is that most religions that believe in god feel they need something to believe in. They can't accept the excuse that there MIGHT NOT BE AN AFTERLIFE! Well, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to dust.
And honestly, if you believe in anything involving Jesus...C'mon, Zombies?
I don't understand what is the problem? Real born again Christians of whom I am one of them is taught to love your neighbor (that includes all of you) as yourself. Not to hate you. I believe in a loving savior who loved you so much that He died and rose from the dead. I don't curse you or condem you I've never asked for your money. Al I want is you to spend eternity in Heaven.
So why don't people like Christians???????????? What have we done wrong?????????????????
You know why MOG Disciple. It's the way it's supposed to be. If you aren't being persecuted, you aren't doing your job. Just eep on keeping on, we'll all see who's right in the end.
Much as I want to see you all in the hereafter, it's not my decision to make, nor can I force you to.
Much as I want to see you all in the hereafter, it's not my decision to make, nor can I force you to.
that t-bird spammer didn't help things, at least christians don't kill people for not being christian though
Ya I guess that is my job. Proud to do my job.Erkut.hv wrote:
You know why MOG Disciple. It's the way it's supposed to be. If you aren't being persecuted, you aren't doing your job. Just eep on keeping on, we'll all see who's right in the end.
Much as I want to see you all in the hereafter, it's not my decision to make, nor can I force you to.
Second thatDarth_Fleder wrote:
Proud to be a Christian.
I am proud to be in the Lords Army.
@MOG Disciple...
I respect you very much for the maturity and lightness with which you have taken these offences.
However you have failed to persuade me thus far. Even if he existed, there have been too many killings in his name for me to want to go to church. Even if he were real, I would not try to change my life style in anyway. I wish you a pleasant life either way... And if I am wrong, oh well. I shall forever burn in hell...at least I will never be cold.
I respect you very much for the maturity and lightness with which you have taken these offences.
However you have failed to persuade me thus far. Even if he existed, there have been too many killings in his name for me to want to go to church. Even if he were real, I would not try to change my life style in anyway. I wish you a pleasant life either way... And if I am wrong, oh well. I shall forever burn in hell...at least I will never be cold.
What have christians done wrong?! Wow...I could write a thesis dissertation on that subject alone.
Repression, mindless persecution, corruption, domination/control, oppression, hypocrisy, killing, feeling that they are over or are above written law...I could go on. This doesn't harbor all christians, mind you, but the ones in power. And the universal dislike comes from the lot of you continuing to support the christians in power when all they want to do is enforce theocratic control.
Repression, mindless persecution, corruption, domination/control, oppression, hypocrisy, killing, feeling that they are over or are above written law...I could go on. This doesn't harbor all christians, mind you, but the ones in power. And the universal dislike comes from the lot of you continuing to support the christians in power when all they want to do is enforce theocratic control.
I could write another thesis on all the wrong things non-Christians have done as well. All it proves is that nobody [edit, group of people] is above the fray of history and human corruption.Marconius wrote:
What have christians done wrong?! Wow...I could write a thesis dissertation on that subject alone.
Repression, mindless persecution, corruption, domination/control, oppression, hypocrisy, killing, feeling that they are over or are above written law...I could go on. This doesn't harbor all christians, mind you, but the ones in power. And the universal dislike comes from the lot of you continuing to support the christians in power when all they want to do is enforce theocratic control.
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Was gonna say the same thing but you beat me to it.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I could write another thesis on all the wrong things non-Christians have done as well. All it proves is that nobody is above the fray of history and human corruption.Marconius wrote:
What have christians done wrong?! Wow...I could write a thesis dissertation on that subject alone.
Repression, mindless persecution, corruption, domination/control, oppression, hypocrisy, killing, feeling that they are over or are above written law...I could go on. This doesn't harbor all christians, mind you, but the ones in power. And the universal dislike comes from the lot of you continuing to support the christians in power when all they want to do is enforce theocratic control.
Marc, just admit you hate anything related to Christianity and be done with it.
No wonder why there are wars because of this exact post WHO! TFC what your believes are. Ether you believe or you don't plain and simple i fore one am a Christian and damn proud of it If you don't like i really don't care i'm not going to try and prove to you wheather there is a God or a Devil that is your choice to make PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then again, multiple exclaimation points do little to convince people of one's logic and reason.
no flame but...you have to work on your spelling... Ah well...=TFF=Omen_NataS wrote:
No wonder why there are wars because of this exact post WHO! TFC what your believes are. Ether you believe or you don't plain and simple i fore one am a Christian and damn proud of it If you don't like i really don't care i'm not going to try and prove to you wheather there is a God or a Devil that is your choice to make PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To continue... Almost every major war was because of religion... Not necessarily christians...I am just putting that out there... Marconios wasn't that wrong...
Ek gaan nie vir jou lieg nie maar as jy kan lees wat ek nou skryf is jy u varkpiel me u moerse geel vrot kwas op jou lip [SORRY IF I CAN"T SPELL BUT ENG> IS LIKE MY FOURTH LANG]Konfusion0 wrote:
no flame but...you have to work on your spelling... Ah well...=TFF=Omen_NataS wrote:
No wonder why there are wars because of this exact post WHO! TFC what your believes are. Ether you believe or you don't plain and simple i fore one am a Christian and damn proud of it If you don't like i really don't care i'm not going to try and prove to you wheather there is a God or a Devil that is your choice to make PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To continue... Almost every major war was because of religion... Not necessarily christians...I am just putting that out there... Marconios wasn't that wrong...
No jacket for you.Konfusion0 wrote:
@MOG Disciple...
I respect you very much for the maturity and lightness with which you have taken these offences.
However you have failed to persuade me thus far. Even if he existed, there have been too many killings in his name for me to want to go to church. Even if he were real, I would not try to change my life style in anyway. I wish you a pleasant life either way... And if I am wrong, oh well. I shall forever burn in hell...at least I will never be cold.
The killing defense is kind of lame there have been killings in many names not just in Christs name. The true Born Again Christian is one of Love and compasion not that of killig and word domination. Many say they do the will of God.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I AM THE REAL DEAL.