Chillin&killin
Member
+27|6938|Manchester,England
you better get practising how to call a medic yourself pure_beef its all you will be doing
Schlusi=[GER]
Member
+11|6784|4856 Karkand,Hellstreet 4

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Schlusi=[GER] wrote:

give me a G36E and I show the damn Snipers who´s accurate ?
16.79% is accurate?
Ok, u got me... But the first few month I shooted in the air and my name in the walls (he) don´t knew about the accuracy category. I had a accuracy of 11.something till I found the bf2s site. Now I try to hit my targets of course...
Nessie09
I "fix" things
+107|6933|The Netherlands
Why medics are better than snipers

1. We have automatic weapons, one with a scope. Both good at medium/long range and short range shooting
Snipers however have only long range effective weapons, most are bolt action.
- Woohoo, you got a half sniper... Having an automatic weapon is not usefull when the other guy can kill you from 200+ meters

2. We can revive when we like and heal when we like. SNipers can lay TWO claymores...
- Snipers can take you out before anaother can revive you

3. Everybody on the team likes a good medic, as we save people and heal the team.
Snipers on the other hand are solitary, the ones that do play for the team are annoying and bunny hop, dolphin dive everywhere (apart from The ss bros as far as i know) Thus making snipers the most annoying assholes alive.
- Getting an pesky enemy taken down by a sniper is very helpfull sometimes.

4. I am a medic
- That just makes it worse

5. Ever soldier can call for a medic because they want to be one "i need a medic here"
do they ever say " i need a sniper " the answer is no because they are hardly ever needed
- Snipers are always on the lookout and do not need to be called

6. Medics dont usually fly around we are ground pounders. Snipers are always tking for jets with there M95
- Tkers are only snipers because of the M95... They aren't real snipers

7. Medics FTW snipers In the bin
- Snipers FTW medics in the bin

Last edited by Nessie09 (2006-07-03 12:28:41)

mporlier
Member
+42|6903|Montreal, Canada
Will claymores have FF turned on?
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7102|Cheshire, UK

pure_beef_69 wrote:

Why medics are better than snipers

1. We have automatic weapons, one with a scope. Both good at medium/long range and short range shooting
Snipers however have only long range effective weapons, most are bolt action.
That's a reason your weapon is better than a sniper rifle at close range. And you mean short to medium range, you just plain can't SEE long range.

pure_beef_69 wrote:

3. Everybody on the team likes a good medic, as we save people and heal the team.
Snipers on the other hand are solitary, the ones that do play for the team are annoying and bunny hop, dolphin dive everywhere (apart from The ss bros as far as i know) Thus making snipers the most annoying assholes alive.
So this would be why medics are more POPULAR than snipers...

pure_beef_69 wrote:

4. I am a medic
...and why snipers are more popular than a medic.

pure_beef_69 wrote:

5. Ever soldier can call for a medic because they want to be one "i need a medic here"
do they ever say " i need a sniper " the answer is no because they are hardly ever needed
What he ^^^ said.

pure_beef_69 wrote:

6. Medics dont usually fly around we are ground pounders. Snipers are always tking for jets with there M95
I normally fly as a medic so I can fly out of bounds longer than the other guy.

pure_beef_69 wrote:

7. Medics FTW snipers In the bin
I don't mean to seem biased, just this was a load of bollocks.


If a sniper does the same I'll happily shoot him down too.
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7102|Cheshire, UK

mporlier wrote:

Will claymores have FF turned on?
Good question. err... no.

It's not common practice so I don't think it should be here.
Ben>You
Member
+90|6789
why? its common practice in real matches, scrims and the like, which is exactly what this is. besides, all you "crazy leet" snipers are so darned good you wont have to spam clay's, right? FF mines ON ftw.
mporlier
Member
+42|6903|Montreal, Canada
Someone mentioned using stock weapons. I think it is unfair for the medics lol. the M24 rocks.
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7102|Cheshire, UK

Ben>You wrote:

why? its common practice in real matches, scrims and the like, which is exactly what this is. besides, all you "crazy leet" snipers are so darned good you wont have to spam clay's, right? FF mines ON ftw.

mporlier wrote:

Someone mentioned using stock weapons. I think it is unfair for the medics lol. the M24 rocks.
So as you all know, I'm not running this by committee. i think about the rules then I set them. They are not up for discussion at this point. We can do all the arguing about how the rules favoured one side after the match then change them if needs be for the next one.

I rock it, you roll with it.




                                                                                                                                                                               
Entertayner
Member
+826|6834

EntertaineR_06 wrote:

pure_beef_69 wrote:

Why medics are better than snipers

1. We have automatic weapons, one with a scope. Both good at medium/long range and short range shooting
Snipers however have only long range effective weapons, most are bolt action.

2. We can revive when we like and heal when we like. SNipers can lay TWO claymores...

3. Everybody on the team likes a good medic, as we save people and heal the team.
Snipers on the other hand are solitary, the ones that do play for the team are annoying and bunny hop, dolphin dive everywhere (apart from The ss bros as far as i know) Thus making snipers the most annoying assholes alive.

4. I am a medic

5. Ever soldier can call for a medic because they want to be one "i need a medic here"
do they ever say " i need a sniper " the answer is no because they are hardly ever needed

6. Medics dont usually fly around we are ground pounders. Snipers are always tking for jets with there M95

7. Medics FTW snipers In the bin
1. they are NOT good at long range, long range being considered over 200m.  Sniper rifles are not only long range effective weapons you should have learnt that by playing with me and towelly by now beefy.

2. Yes, that is because you knobs started complaining.. if we complained about you having unlimited revives + heals they would limit them, we just put up with it you have to complain.

3. So no1 likes snipers eh? How many times have you got shot from 300 yards away and how many times do you reckon you have been saved by a sniper taking out another one?  And medics and their stuck up bitches arent? You do more bunny hopping than a fucking rabbit on a trampoline ahhh run away someone shot at me..yay medi pack lets drop it in front of me!!

4. jeez, this reinforces the point "stuck up bitches"

5. Read no. 3

6. I think someone may have TK'd beefy thats not usually a sniper but just uses the m95 for its abilities.  How many people use a m95 on a big map that jets would be on anyway?! No, most use the l96.

7. Yes, well done you can rhyme! Now lets not get TOO stuck up before the comp eh??
Ben>You
Member
+90|6789

duffry wrote:

Ben>You wrote:

why? its common practice in real matches, scrims and the like, which is exactly what this is. besides, all you "crazy leet" snipers are so darned good you wont have to spam clay's, right? FF mines ON ftw.

mporlier wrote:

Someone mentioned using stock weapons. I think it is unfair for the medics lol. the M24 rocks.
So as you all know, I'm not running this by committee. i think about the rules then I set them. They are not up for discussion at this point. We can do all the arguing about how the rules favoured one side after the match then change them if needs be for the next one.

I rock it, you roll with it.




                                                                                                                                                                               
yum.. shrapnel...

unranked server right? i dont want an assload of medic whores like OMGZ A SNIPER IS INFRONT OF U BUT REVIVE NEWAYS LOL +2 !!!! WHATS THAT? U DIED AGAIN!! REVIVE +2 LOLOLZZZ I R LEET!!!

please.. please dont make it ranked..
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7102|Cheshire, UK

Ben>You wrote:

please.. please dont make it ranked..
If I can possibly avoid it, I will (and I probably can).

Last edited by duffry (2006-07-03 13:31:49)

Papa Smurf 314
Right in the Smurfin' parking lot?
+90|7033|New York
So what you're saying, Duffry, Snipers can lay all the claymores they want, and their teammates are able to just walk by without getting killed? wow.
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7102|Cheshire, UK

Papa Smurf 314 wrote:

So what you're saying, Duffry, Snipers can lay all the claymores they want, and their teammates are able to just walk by without getting killed? wow.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=522377#p522377
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6890|Warlord

Schlusi=[GER] wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Schlusi=[GER] wrote:

give me a G36E and I show the damn Snipers who´s accurate ?
16.79% is accurate?
Ok, u got me... But the first few month I shooted in the air and my name in the walls (he) don´t knew about the accuracy category. I had a accuracy of 11.something till I found the bf2s site. Now I try to hit my targets of course...



mporlier wrote:

Someone mentioned using stock weapons. I think it is unfair for the medics lol. the M24 rocks.
And if the MEC is one of the sides then the snipers would have no choice but to use the SVD, which some of us think is a piece of crap.


Ben>You wrote:

i dont want an assload of medic whores like OMGZ A SNIPER IS INFRONT OF U BUT REVIVE NEWAYS LOL +2 !!!! WHATS THAT? U DIED AGAIN!! REVIVE +2 LOLOLZZZ I R LEET!!!
That only counts as one death: the one you don't get revived for; only one ticket lost to your side.


Papa Smurf 314 wrote:

So what you're saying, Duffry, Snipers can lay all the claymores they want, and their teammates are able to just walk by without getting killed? wow.
Achem. We're now in the post-1.2 BF2 world; this is the way that claymores are now on the vast majority of servers.

It is the reality of the class as it is. In case you missed it I argued just a vehemently that the medics should retain the ability to heal and revive; that's the class as it exists. And that's what is the entire starting point of this contest, the two classes as they are, pitted head to head.
duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7102|Cheshire, UK

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Ben>You wrote:

i dont want an assload of medic whores like OMGZ A SNIPER IS INFRONT OF U BUT REVIVE NEWAYS LOL +2 !!!! WHATS THAT? U DIED AGAIN!! REVIVE +2 LOLOLZZZ I R LEET!!!
That only counts as one death: the one you don't get revived for; only one ticket lost to your side.
I think he's talking about the monster scores the medics stand to have at the end of the game from revives and heals. That's why it has no basis for the outcome of the competition.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7019|United States of America

mporlier wrote:

Someone mentioned using stock weapons. I think it is unfair for the medics lol. the M24 rocks.
I would think its unfair for the snipers, one bolt action and maybe the SVD (hardly anyone can use properly) the M16 and Ak101 should teach you a lesson like that.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6890|Warlord

duffry wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Ben>You wrote:

i dont want an assload of medic whores like OMGZ A SNIPER IS INFRONT OF U BUT REVIVE NEWAYS LOL +2 !!!! WHATS THAT? U DIED AGAIN!! REVIVE +2 LOLOLZZZ I R LEET!!!
That only counts as one death: the one you don't get revived for; only one ticket lost to your side.
I think he's talking about the monster scores the medics stand to have at the end of the game from revives and heals.
Okies. Don't matter to me what their scores are, ranked or not, only the win.

duffry wrote:

That's why it has no basis for the outcome of the competition.
Tickets is the right way to go IMO too.

If the two maps are what I thought they'd be and the game were played the way I think it should I'd say it'll be a draw in the number of games won but on the basis of total tickets the medics are going to win.
l41e
Member
+677|6911

I propose a second and maybe third competition sometime. With a total of 83 members on the sniper team and 81 on the medic team, only 28 players in the competition per team seems kind of...well, small, leaving 53 or more players in the reserves which may not be used. (yes I'm in the reserves for anybody wondering)
eusgen
Nugget
+402|7055|Jupiter
Gen.AssPaddler is ready to kick some ass ^_^ I signed up, i want to kick some sniper ass!
Yoink of the Yukon
Member
+0|6770|Northern VA

k30dxedle wrote:

I propose a second and maybe third competition sometime. With a total of 83 members on the sniper team and 81 on the medic team, only 28 players in the competition per team seems kind of...well, small, leaving 53 or more players in the reserves which may not be used. (yes I'm in the reserves for anybody wondering)
Same here, reserves FTW!

How would one in the reserves find out if he was taking someone's spot in the game?
eusgen
Nugget
+402|7055|Jupiter
Is there a way to communicate with headsets during gameplay? is there a teamspeak setup?
If needed i am willling to let all the medics come join my ventrilo server. (hosted by ecgnetwork)
Dufry, let me know about this.
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7052|Singapore

Classes As They Are isn't it duffry? Since we're not talking about who can whore up the most points here, wouldn't BF2WT settings be the most appropriate? You've said it yourself, the win is more important, so imposing standard scrim settings wouldn't be too much to ask would it?

Sure, since they are 'Snipers' per se, they should be showing their amazing ability to drop targets at huge ranges, and have their position fortified by claymores no? Unless, of course, you snipers are willing to admit you all are simply claywhores since the patch.

FF turned on. Or the snipers will just cap every flag using the shock sniper method: Run, clay in your face, repeat.
Defiance
Member
+438|6934

EntertaineR_06 wrote:

yay a supporter for the snipers!! wooooooooooooooooooooooo

Defiance wrote:

908741059871059781's message under his user name is "Sheep of War." 908741059871059781 was the bf2s member to start the medics vs snipers thread.
I'M CONFUSED!!
I forgot to reply to this...heh.

I find it funny that his message is "Sheep of War" when he did infact start the meds vs snipers war.

polarbearz wrote:

Classes As They Are isn't it duffry? Since we're not talking about who can whore up the most points here, wouldn't BF2WT settings be the most appropriate? You've said it yourself, the win is more important, so imposing standard scrim settings wouldn't be too much to ask would it?

Sure, since they are 'Snipers' per se, they should be showing their amazing ability to drop targets at huge ranges, and have their position fortified by claymores no? Unless, of course, you snipers are willing to admit you all are simply claywhores since the patch.

FF turned on. Or the snipers will just cap every flag using the shock sniper method: Run, clay in your face, repeat.
MATCH SETTINGS FTW!

Last edited by Defiance (2006-07-04 02:57:39)

duffry
Moderator Emeritus
+148|7102|Cheshire, UK
If anyone wishes to challenge the rules & settings for this event please PM me.

A decision needs to be made on these things & I have made them in the interests of a fun community event. Opening them up to public debate is counter productive as there are so many opinions out there.

I promise a rules review AFTER this event & before the next one. For now though there is a lot of prep to be done by the teams & the sooner the rules & settings are in place the sooner they can prep strategies, train etc.

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