Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6945

https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3530/title7sk.jpg

If you think something is missing, then PM me and I will add it!

I am still working on this guide, so you will not read all I have to tell yet!

https://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9816/awards1gt.jpg

Basic Air Defense badge
https://static.bf2s.com/game-images/awards/ubar/1220104_1.png
IAR: 10 minutes on Air Defense (SAM, AA Vehicle)

Veteran Air Defense badge
https://static.bf2s.com/game-images/awards/ubar/1220104_2.png
IAR: 10 kills while on Air Defense (SAM, AA Vehicle)
Basic Air Defense Badge

Expert Air Defense badge
https://static.bf2s.com/game-images/awards/ubar/1220104_3.png
IAR: 20 kills while on Air Defense (SAM, AA Vehicle)
Veteran Air Defense Badge

Air-Defense Ribbon
https://static.bf2s.com/game-images/awards/ubar/3040109.png
IAR: 3 minutes in Air Defense (SAM, AA Vehicle)
IAR: 11 kills with Air Defense (SAM, AA Vehicle)

https://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9775/vehicles8tq.jpg

MEC Tunguska
Full name: Tunguska M-1 Low Level Air Defense System
Country: Russian Federation
Gun statistics: 2x30mm, 5000 rpm
Missile statistics: 4x9M311-M1 SAM NATO Designation SA-19 “Grison”
Advantage: High rate of fire.
Dis-Advantage: Radar dome blocks line-of-sight when aimed towards ground.

USMC Linebacker
Full name: M6 Bradley Linebacker Short Range Air Defense System
Country: United States of America
Gun statistics: 1x25mm M242 Bushmaster, 200 rpm
Missile statistics: 4xRMP FIM-92D/Block 1 FIM-92E SAM
Advantage: Precise fireing.
Dis-Advantage: Slow rate of fire.

USMC USS Essex
Full name: LHD(2) USS Essex
Country: United States of America
Gun statistics: 2x Phalanx Close In Weapon System (CIWS)
Missile statistics: 2x RIM-7 Sea Sparrow
Advantage: Unlimited ammo.
Dis-Advantage: Un-mobile, gun overheats quite fast.


PLA Type 95
Full name: PGZ-95
Country: Peoples Republic of China
Gun statistics: 4x25mm, 600-800 rpm
Missile statistics: 4xQW-2 IR-Homing  SAM
Advantage: High rate of fire.
Dis-Advantage: -

Static Stinger Site
Full name: FIM-92 Stinger
Country: United States of America
Missile statistics: 2xFIM-92

Static IGLA site
Full name: Russian 9K38 “Игла” – Needle NATO designation SA-18 “Grouse”
Country: Russian Federation
Missile statistics: 2x9M38

https://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5544/targets7an.jpg

EF= Euro Forces, AF= Armored Fury, SF= Special Forces

Bomber Aircraft
Threat Level: 5
Max Points: 4
Type: F15 Eagle, SU-34 Flanker, SU-30, A10 Warthog (AF), Fatan Q-5 (AF), Su39 Frogfoot (AF)
Armor: Medium

These slow flying aircraft are your main concern. Armed with 5 bombs they can be a real threat in hands of an experienced pilot.

Fighter Aircraft
Threat Level: 3
Max Points: 2
Type: F18e Hornet, F-35B JSF, J-10, MiG-29 Fullcrum, Eurofighter Typhoon (EF)
Armor: Medium

The main purpose of these planes is to intercept other aircraft. While being armed with only 2 bombs they still posses a great threat, but again, only if used by skilled pilots.

Transport Helicopters
Threat Level: 1-2
Max Points: 12
Type: UH-60 Blackhawk, Mi-17 Hip, Z8
Armor: Medium – Heavy

The  workhorses of the battlefield. These helicopters carry up to 6 person transporting them from point A to B. Although not the fastest, these birds are more armored than the attack helicopters.

Attack Helicopters
Threat Level: 4
Max Points: 4
Type: Tiger HAP (EF), Mi-35 Hind (SF), AH-64D Apache (SF), WZ-10, AH-1Z Cobra, Mi-28 Havoc
Armor: Medium

The attack helicopter is, next to the bomber aircraft, you #1 enemy. Being able to hover, they can  create ambushes and hide out of your sight until the last moment. Their cannon is not much worth, but the 8X missile pod and guided missiles  are their mightiest assault weaponry onboard.

Scout Helicopters
Threat Level: 2
Max Points: 6
Type: EC-635 (AF), OH-6A Little Bird (AF), WZ-11 (AF)
Armor: Light

Lighty armored and armed, these choppers pose no threat to you unless you are in a static AA site.
Do keep in mind that they are scout helicopters and that there’s a big chance they have armored vehicles coming after them.

UAV
Threat Level: 0
Max Points: 0
Armor: Medium – Heavy

The all seeing eye of your and the enemy team. Unarmed but transmits your teams locations.

https://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9176/tactics1wl.jpg

Tactical Displacement ; “Hit and Run”
This tactic requires quite a bit of terrain/map knowledge.

Most pilots do not anticipate a moving object, they memorize your location whether or not you fired at them, because they see you as an easy target.

After you notice/spot an overcoming jet, you can translate it’s behavior into his next step. If he   makes a hard turn left/right or pulls up to make a loop, you can bet he is coming back for you.
Start driving in his opposite direction and move away from the obvious. Planes have a bomb sight that detects you so make sure the bomber can’t line up.

In the case of a helicopter, try to keep objects such as trees in between you and the target.
There aren’t many skilled gunners out there, most are lucky shots, so the more object in between the harder you are making it for them.

After you repositioned yourself, keeping track of you retaliating target, prepare to fire and move.
Keep repositioning yourself in various ways to keep your behavior unpredictable.

Tactical Oversight ; ”Hill Top Hunter”
This tactic requires a keen eye, and a good sense of trajectory prediction because the objects will probably move by at a high rate off speed.

The higher you are the more air you can cover. Seek a hilltop which overlooks the battlefield.
Examples are: the dam road on Kubra Dam, the hills near the center oil-tanks of Daqing, the hills north of the helicopter pads on SF:Ghost Town etc, etc…

When detecting a target with the missile radar lock start firing your cannon in his direction/path of movement. 9 out of 10 times the pilot will deploy his counter-measures and that is your moment of glory. Keep tracking and firing on the target as he moves by and wait until he has passed you and is flying away from you. Now if there are no more flares and the target is locked, fire your missiles on after the other and keep firing your cannon until the target is either dead or out of range.

After that, reposition and reload/repair and prepare for the next engagement.

Tactical Mousegame ; ”Hide & Seek”
Engage the target constantly and hide behind buildings. Helicopter pilots can’t resist a kill and will mostly come after you.

Untactical displacement ; ”Head on Rumble”
This is the easiest of tactics. And  is basically a bluff tactic. If done properly the enemy pilot will freak out & die or make a dumb move killing himself.

Upping change off hitting target ; "Tailpipe Thunder"
As a static/mobile AA site it is easier to fire at planes that fly away from you. Let them pass over you and relock them.

Tactical Reinforcement ; "All your missiles are belong to us"
This tactic is useable for the USS Essex gun only. Static AA has only 2 missiles, and mobile AA reloads missiles per battery a 4 missiles. The USS Essex RAF Missile battery can be reloaded per missile.
Dropping 1 or more supply crates near your RAF battery causes it to reload the battery constantly.

Incoming planes will count the missiles fired, but won't expect them to reload faster, often causing them to feel godlike. And at the moment they become reckless, unleash the whole battery at them.

Ofcourse keep track of flare deployment!

Static Engagement ; "Hold Your Horses!"
When in either the IGLA or STINGER Static AA site you are  limited in movement, and an easier target for helicopters/bombers.

Never, ever, fire at oncoming planes! You will miss, instead, get the hell out if you see a plane comming, and move your ass, if it is still alive, back in the AA site to fire some AA up that flyboy' tailpipe.

[Target Tracking ; ]

[Ground Targets ; ]

Armor - APC/MBT's
Threat Level: 5
Max Points: APC/10 MBT/4
Type: BTR-90, LAV-25,WZ 551,M1A2SEP, T90S, Type 88
Armor: Heavy

Attacking armor might sound cool, but the cannon on your AA is useless against the armor of a tank, and will only deal a little amount of damage to the target.

The missiles however can deal damage/destroy an already damaged tank if they are well placed.
Remember that unlocked missiles have a will of their own and aren't controllable in any way.

AA
Threat Level: 3
Max Points: 4
Type: M6 Bradley Linebacker, Tunguska M-1, Type 95
Armor: Medium

Going against other AA is pretty time-consuming and useless, unless you are engaging static AA.
Let your armor driving teammates solve the enemy AA problem.

Transport
Threat Level: 0
Max Points: 0
Type: HMMWV,Desert Patrol Vehicle (DPV),NJ 2046,GAZ 39371 Vodnic,FAV Buggy,ATV, Civilian cars.
Armor: Light - Medium

Infantry
Threat Level: 1-5
Max Points: 2
Type: Anti-Tank, SpecOps, Medic, Support, Engineer, Assault, Sniper
Armor: Light

Mobile AA vs infrantry is like setting loose a fox in a den full of chickens. But do remeber that some chickens (engineer, at and specops) can bite back!

[Class Usage ; ]

SpecOps
While using SpecOps you can secure your location bij putting C4 at position enemies might be comming through.

Anti-Tank
Ideal for defending yourself from enemy armor.

Sniper
Like SpecOps. Claymore is too defend your position from infantry.

Medic
Useless in my opinion.

Engineer
For securing your location with AT-Mines and repairing your AA Vehicle.

Support
When your AA Vehicle is runining out of ammo this class can resupply yourself. Always comes in handy when you have a commander which does not understand 'I need supplies'.

Still To Do List:
HUD's
Movies
Tactics
Tracking

Got  more tactics? Send them via PM to me and I will add them!

Last edited by Bernadictus (2006-06-30 02:12:36)

l41e
Member
+677|6857

ZOMG. The best guide I've seen in a while. +1.

Edit: I would change transport heli threat level to 1 though.

Last edited by k30dxedle (2006-06-22 08:07:36)

Viper38
Member
+118|6879
Excellent guide ... seems you've put in a lot of effort. Featured request
Murphy <s18>
Member
+8|6861|51st State
anti-air defense mean against air defense but other than that its an awesome guide i like the pics and the real life stats!
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6945

k30dxedle wrote:

ZOMG. The best guide I've seen in a while. +1.

Edit: I would change transport heli threat level to 1 though.
No, the reason why transport is level 2 threat is it can carry AT-Infantry, but ill get in depth on that later today/tomorrow.

Murphy <s18> wrote:

anti-air defense mean against air defense but other than that its an awesome guide i like the pics and the real life stats!
Edited the typo

Last edited by Bernadictus (2006-06-22 08:12:55)

chittydog
less busy
+586|7044|Kubra, Damn it!

Nice. +1
.Psycho~*DS*~
Banned
+64|6728

Bernadictus wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

ZOMG. The best guide I've seen in a while. +1.

Edit: I would change transport heli threat level to 1 though.
No, the reason why transport is level 2 threat is it can carry AT-Infantry, but ill get in depth on that later today/tomorrow.

Murphy <s18> wrote:

anti-air defense mean against air defense but other than that its an awesome guide i like the pics and the real life stats!
Edited the typo
Excellent guide, +1 if I had some, I'll add you to my sig lol.
samfink
Member
+31|6764
I'd have thought C4 packs would be mredangerous coming down from a transport chopper ( I did do a small test of if you can launch themout of a transport chopper, on wake while flying over the ocean, and you can. didn't hit anything.)
-MIKI3.
Member
+70|6852|The Netherlands
nice guide and yes you should change transport heli threat level to 1
david363
Crotch fires and you: the untold story
+314|6948|Comber, Northern Ireland
my god you have good graphics lol.....
Delphy
Member
+45|6794|Bristol, UK
It's pretty hard to guide an AT rocket from a chopper. One thing I find annoying about mobile AA is that you run out of rockets quickly, as I usually fire all four at once- so you should bring a support player, or park next to a supply crate.
If you get a lock on a plane on the edge of your range, don't bother firing at it, it will miss. Unless you're in the Essex, its worth a shot cos of free ammo.
Sgt_Bob05
Nade Spammers Must Die
+49|6910|Australia
Just a thought but the fighter jets E.G. the J-10, F-18 are very dangerous for people in AA. The cannon turns them into mince meat. They are the most dangerous for AA.
Sgt_Sieg
"Bow Chicka Bow Wow." The correct way.
+89|6983
If all you want is the badges, just jump onto an AF server. I got my expert without purposelly going for it =P Good guide by the way.
-r3-anubis
Member
+73|6745|florida
Your an AA whore, i hate AA whores. +1 for you anyways for such a great guide.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6945

Made a small update, thanks for the karma/comments!
Reaxzion
HOU A.U.B. JE MUIL!
+44|6803|Europe and goddamn proud of it
At least a AA-guide!
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6945

*bump* updated the AA guide, keep sending your feedback!
zulu
Member
+8|6873
Very nice guide. Now if I can only remember them and adapt them into my tactics instead of jumping into an aa vehicle and saying charge.

Buffnuggles
Member
+11|6941|The Hague, Netherlands
Very nice AA guide, keep up the good work!!!!! +1 karma for you
Longbow
Member
+163|6855|Odessa, Ukraine
+1 mate , awesome guide
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6945

I need some people to work out the chapters like tracking etc. So if you are looking for a challenge, pm me!
tvmissleman
The Cereal Killer
+201|6867| United States of America
ive got all the AA awards if you dont believe me look at my sig
PFCStenzel
Check your AA alarm...
+82|7002|Idaho, USA / Age 30
Nice.  It works because I got my Expert Air Defense.
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6726|USA
wouldn't you all rather be playing the game than sitting here reading and creating guides?!?
iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6738|Belgium
I think bombers and attack heli's have the same threat level, but i do tand to use alot of the stationary AA..

You need some tips on how to use the stationary ones. When i see a plane turning to get a shot at me, i run for cover behind the sandbags around the AA. Most of the time, the pilot really does kill you
And it doesnt pay off to fire missles at planes that are flying towards you, the almost always seem to miss, so you have to wait till they pass you (heli's are slow and can always be taken down by AA).

Board footer

Privacy Policy - © 2024 Jeff Minard