||BFA||xZeler8
Expendable Miracle Worker
+1|7021
the beauty of being an american is to have such freedoms, unfortunately it allows stupid people to do things that they aren't bright enough not to...i just ignore it and move on, because it's quite obvious that they are probably either uneducated or have a retarded sense of humor...
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6942|New York
If your going to make the names like SS and Hitler and such, Atleast be playing the frigging game they were part of. Those names have no reason to be in a Modern combat Game. I let it go in COD and COD2, but i give players flack over obviousely offensive names. And there copout responses for haveing them doesnt wash with me.
ikillyou9090
Member
+24|6788
i think everybody should just stop concerning the fact and making people bitch and wine about it...
its a game ok.. if you dont like it.. go to church or something.. jesus will show you the way.. maybe.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6893

ikillyou9090 wrote:

i think everybody should just stop concerning the fact and making people bitch and wine about it...
its a game ok.. if you dont like it.. go to church or something.. jesus will show you the way.. maybe.
Pastor Martin Niemöller should show you the way.  Silence is not the way.
mrboogman
You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here!
+13|6942|Germany
the advantage of "not having the right of free speech" in our countries is that tasteless propaganda in either way will not be seen by 12 years olds that are obviously playing this game as well (as we all may have experienced in countless situations).

By the way, we have the right of free speech, what is prohibited is wearing/showing symbols of the Nazi regime. The law here is to protect kids in areas where their parents have no way of protecting them, as in online games. I am aware that this is different in the other countries.

I think both sides have their advantages and disadvantages. Being raised in Germany I share the disgust for those nicknames but I understand that you guys from countries that haven't suffered from Hitler like ourselves don't have a problem with these nicknames and even think they are funny. Maybe in a few years from now this will be the same in Austria and Germany but you are right, we are still very sensitive when it comes to this part of our history and we will try anything to never let something like this happen again!
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6801
Out of curiosity, what would happen if someone were to use the Swastika for non-Nazi reasons (i.e. as a religious symbol)?  If they can prove that it is a religious symbol to them, can they use that as a defence?

Personally, I'm unsure about making such things illegal.  I suppose that it at least prevents people from being overtly neo-Nazi.  The problem, though, is it doesn't eradicate such groups, it merely sends them underground, and makes their activities harder to track.

I'm firmly against laws against Holocaust denial.  Does Germany have those, or is it just Austria (again, curious)?
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6893

Bubbalo wrote:

Out of curiosity, what would happen if someone were to use the Swastika for non-Nazi reasons (i.e. as a religious symbol)?  If they can prove that it is a religious symbol to them, can they use that as a defence?

Personally, I'm unsure about making such things illegal.  I suppose that it at least prevents people from being overtly neo-Nazi.  The problem, though, is it doesn't eradicate such groups, it merely sends them underground, and makes their activities harder to track.

I'm firmly against laws against Holocaust denial.  Does Germany have those, or is it just Austria (again, curious)?
Most religious versions are in the opposite direction, except maybe the Hindu one which has dots in the sections.      I don't know what the law is about them though.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
JOJOBA
my penis itches
+18|6773|Columbus, OH
anyone ever think about 88.  88s were also Germany's best cannon in WWII.  maybe those people that put 88 in their names were just talking about the cannons.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6893

JOJOBA wrote:

anyone ever think about 88.  88s were also Germany's best cannon in WWII.  maybe those people that put 88 in their names were just talking about the cannons.
And the people who put "kill all jews"?
thepyro
Member
+0|6762
i drive an ss Commodore does that make me a nazi
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6801

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Most religious versions are in the opposite direction
Uh, no.  Most of the ones you see probably are to seperate them from Nazi symbology, but in actuality you can do them whichever way and it makes no difference.  The big difference is that Nazi swastikas "rested" on a point, not a side, if you get what I mean.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6893

Bubbalo wrote:

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Most religious versions are in the opposite direction
Uh, no.  Most of the ones you see probably are to seperate them from Nazi symbology, but in actuality you can do them whichever way and it makes no difference.  The big difference is that Nazi swastikas "rested" on a point, not a side, if you get what I mean.
Uh, no.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

EDIT: Anyway, save this discussion for another thread if you must... really I couldn't give a damn, I still think those names in the recent list I posted are completely inappropriate.

Last edited by UnOriginalNuttah (2006-06-19 08:21:25)

PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6767|Portland, OR USA

Bubbalo wrote:

Xietsu wrote:

The differing factor is that the Holocaust was a purposeful victimization of a select group of peoples, whereas the atrocities committed under Saddam Hussein and Josef Stalin are an example of the failures and brutalities of a totalitarian government.
Uh, no.  Saddam Husseins worst crimes were against the nomadic Kurds.  Stalin sent the whole population of one of the USSR nations (forget which) to Siberia.  The difference is those two haven't been able to get their name in the history books.
Stalin hasn't made it in, eh?  Which books are you reading?  Do they refer to the civil rights movement as "Trouble Ahead?"

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