jesus bible, 5 dollars.. 5 dollars... do i hear 10?
sorry free cos he never excisted
sorry free cos he never excisted
Last edited by ikillyou9090 (2006-06-18 22:32:54)
Jesus was black. Here's a black Jesus bobble head as proof. Why would they make a black jesus bobble head if jesus wasn't black.
jesus was indeed middle eastern... its just the famous painters like leonardo da vinci and a few others "europeanized" jesus. jesus was real, even the muslims know that. they just believe jesus was just a prophet and not the son of god.
So what? There's a million people in Spain called Jesus, it's a name! There were probably hundreds of people called Jesus around at the time of the Bible being written. You might as well have said that you can prove the exsistence of the prophet Muhhamed because there is evidence that someone called 'Muhhamed' was alive 2000 years ago.......dubbs wrote:
There was a person named Jesus that lived around the time as the Biblical figure. This has been proven by Hebrew historians during that time.THA wrote:
he never existed so who cares.
yep the reason that many ppl in spain are called jesus (pronounced he-zus) is that they want their child to be named after jesus christ kinda like the name maria for mary=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
So what? There's a million people in Spain called Jesus, it's a name! There were probably hundreds of people called Jesus around at the time of the Bible being written. You might as well have said that you can prove the exsistence of the prophet Muhhamed because there is evidence that someone called 'Muhhamed' was alive 2000 years ago.......dubbs wrote:
There was a person named Jesus that lived around the time as the Biblical figure. This has been proven by Hebrew historians during that time.THA wrote:
he never existed so who cares.
I thought that was sarcasm.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
A white christian artist? Did he live 2000 years ago to see Jesus? You are delirious. Why would Jesus look totally different from all the other people who lived in that region at the time? What the hell is sciencism? Use some common sense before you tell me I am wrong. Jesus was not a pale skinned, blue-eyed, blonde haired guy in a region where everyone had dark skin and dark features. Don't be ignorant my friend.spastic bullet wrote:
Whatever, guy. I think a white Christian artist would know better than teh Discovery Channel. LOL. Another example of sciencism gone too far...
Jesus was black.
And he had AIDS.
And he had AIDS.
sorry had you mixed up with guy a post or two above you. it happens.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Give what a rest? What are you saying? Read my post, nowhere did I say Jesus did not live. Please read and use critical thinking before you accuse me of something I did not say or do. Thanks!
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I don't think it was Subterfuge inspired by the Bush Family and " The Skull and Bones Crowd ".cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
jesus was indeed middle eastern... its just the famous painters like leonardo da vinci and a few others "europeanized" jesus. jesus was real, even the muslims know that. they just believe jesus was just a prophet and not the son of god.
It has alway been hard for people to imagine something they have never seen.
For instance, go hunt up some Classic Paintings by Japanese artists of U.S.N. Admiral Perry
Or look back at artists conceptions of the future. It is always laced with the World as it is known to and perceived by the artist.
well, historically, most of those who held power in the roman catholic church ever since it was created were white, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that the "official" pictures catholic artists have drawn up over the last 2000 years show the big J as being a "white guy".
I think it's fair to say that the historic figure Jesus existed, there is roman scripture along that line, wether you take what the bible says for granted or not.
Was he the son of god ? I have no idea. that's a question of faith and not so much of science.
As a native of that area, I think it 's likely that he looked more arab / mediterranean, and not so much caucasian, but in the end, it doesn't really matter. J was all about the message.
I think it's fair to say that the historic figure Jesus existed, there is roman scripture along that line, wether you take what the bible says for granted or not.
Was he the son of god ? I have no idea. that's a question of faith and not so much of science.
As a native of that area, I think it 's likely that he looked more arab / mediterranean, and not so much caucasian, but in the end, it doesn't really matter. J was all about the message.
The real question should be: Is god white? He was the father...The black gene is the dominant of the two...So if God is black, that would've made Jesus black...
as black / white, male / female are human concepts, I don't think they can be applied to god.
It's like trying to understand god with human ways of rationale / thinking. It's just not going to work.
It's like trying to understand god with human ways of rationale / thinking. It's just not going to work.
Does it really matter?
People saw him do miracles and he fulfilled all the prophecies about him in the old testament. Its FACT that the prophecies were written before he was born. Some were written hundreds of years before he was born. And he rose from the dead 3 days after he died, not many Jesus' do that. This is based on historical facts and eye-witness accounts written in a proven historically accurate book.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
So what? There's a million people in Spain called Jesus, it's a name! There were probably hundreds of people called Jesus around at the time of the Bible being written. You might as well have said that you can prove the exsistence of the prophet Muhhamed because there is evidence that someone called 'Muhhamed' was alive 2000 years ago.......dubbs wrote:
There was a person named Jesus that lived around the time as the Biblical figure. This has been proven by Hebrew historians during that time.THA wrote:
he never existed so who cares.
Was Jesus gay? The Last Supper looked like a sausage fest to me.
Blame whitey for the messed up Hell's Angel look they gave to Christ. I doubt he looked like a biker in a robe. Schuss, amazingly enough, we are in total agreement on this one.
On another note: Prove Genghis Khan existed. Nobody knows where he was buried (allegedly), and the only accounts we have of him being alive are from historians. So the same argument applied to Jesus' life can be applied to many other people throughout history.
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On another note: Prove Genghis Khan existed. Nobody knows where he was buried (allegedly), and the only accounts we have of him being alive are from historians. So the same argument applied to Jesus' life can be applied to many other people throughout history.
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so then did jimmy hoffa (spelling?) really exist?Erkut.hv wrote:
Nobody knows where he was buried (allegedly)
Spelling is okay. There are photos and birth records of Hoffa, so there is significant evidence of his existence. it was a good try, but I was referring more to historical beings, and the ability to prove their existence.THA wrote:
so then did jimmy hoffa (spelling?) really exist?Erkut.hv wrote:
Nobody knows where he was buried (allegedly)
I have photos of Genghis Khan. if you want to see them, leave 20 dollars under the bench in the park at midnight and they will be delivered.
1. Prophecies are up to interpretation. ie. "i will die by the hand of man." Does this mean I will die by someone suffocating me with his hands or die by the cancer that the asbestos in the walls gave me, the asbestos that was put there by man's hands?. Two different deaths, one prophecy.JaMDuDe wrote:
People saw him do miracles and he fulfilled all the prophecies about him in the old testament. Its FACT that the prophecies were written before he was born. Some were written hundreds of years before he was born. And he rose from the dead 3 days after he died, not many Jesus' do that. This is based on historical facts and eye-witness accounts written in a proven historically accurate book.=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
So what? There's a million people in Spain called Jesus, it's a name! There were probably hundreds of people called Jesus around at the time of the Bible being written. You might as well have said that you can prove the exsistence of the prophet Muhhamed because there is evidence that someone called 'Muhhamed' was alive 2000 years ago.......dubbs wrote:
There was a person named Jesus that lived around the time as the Biblical figure. This has been proven by Hebrew historians during that time.
2. What people say and what really happened are two different things.
"You killed him"
"No I didn't"
Then who did?
3. Historically accurate just means it was written at the same time. Not that what's written is accurate.
It's been historically proven that Jesus exsisted. Roman records mainly indicate that there was some rable rouser called Jesus who was the focus of some attention during the time period. Just as there are historical refferences to Gengis Kahn, in fact recently there was a geneological search for an actual decendent of Gengis, since Gengis had so many hoes. Turned out some guy in Florida, a proffesor or something like that, is an actual decendent of the Kahn line. Genes don't lie.
Jesus was as middle eastern as any one else living in that region except for Romans. Even the Romans were probably more dark than present day Italians, no proof..just speculation. All human life originated from the middle eastern region which is called the cradle of civilization for a reason. The whitening of Jesus was perpetrated like bleech on the teeth of Christianity. Most if not all of human decendents were black at one point, untill the species spread and evolved to adapt to thier unique environs.
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Jesus was as middle eastern as any one else living in that region except for Romans. Even the Romans were probably more dark than present day Italians, no proof..just speculation. All human life originated from the middle eastern region which is called the cradle of civilization for a reason. The whitening of Jesus was perpetrated like bleech on the teeth of Christianity. Most if not all of human decendents were black at one point, untill the species spread and evolved to adapt to thier unique environs.
Scotch
Havazn, the prophecies are too detailed to have so many possible meanings they would have to come true. Show me how 3 of these http://christiananswers.net/dictionary/ … ecies.html could have so many meanings that theyd have to come true sometime.
Its been provin that most of the people and places are real. The historical writings in the bible are very accurate.
Its been provin that most of the people and places are real. The historical writings in the bible are very accurate.
All i can say is WOW!!!! that is probably some of the best proof ever... im totally convinced nowJaMDuDe wrote:
Havazn, the prophecies are too detailed to have so many possible meanings they would have to come true. Show me how 3 of these http://christiananswers.net/dictionary/ … ecies.html could have so many meanings that theyd have to come true sometime.
Its been provin that most of the people and places are real. The historical writings in the bible are very accurate.
# 10 Who checked?
# 21 Donkey love
# 22 - 24 Pretty sure this happens to almost everyone at some point in life
# 32 Sweet jesus had piercings
that is a great website ill use it often im sure
What are you trying to prove?
Again, all this shows me is that someone read the prophecy and rewrote is occurances. What I am looking for is the facts that SUPPORT these occurances actually happened.JaMDuDe wrote:
Havazn, the prophecies are too detailed to have so many possible meanings they would have to come true. Show me how 3 of these http://christiananswers.net/dictionary/ … ecies.html could have so many meanings that theyd have to come true sometime.
Its been provin that most of the people and places are real. The historical writings in the bible are very accurate.