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bobroonie.bda wrote:

AlphaMale wrote:

bobroonie.bda wrote:

any WC server.. T1st server 66.90.75.132:16567
                         Black ops   64.69.47.107:16567

are a few.. it doesnt take a noob tanker to die from c4.. I'm not ranked 4th in the world with a carbine and 10th in the world as a spec op because i suck.. If you really want to challenge me lets go.. i will be more then happy to hand you your ass. You think this is my first challenge

I can't even have a serious debate with you without your e-peen getting in the way. Ranked 4th with carbine and probably 2 billionth in debate.

what? haha damn children... so you up for it? up for the challenge? say T1st server.. you got the IP..

bobroonie.bda wrote:

i tell you what ill be on this server join me if you want..


T1st server 66.90.75.132:16567

by the way i would join you but you never gave me an IP

Karo6972 wrote:

AlphaMale wrote:

Karo6972 wrote:

I realize this, I am in fact one of those crazy Jet/Heli pilots with a brain. However, when someone sits near an AA and I'm occupied with other things (enemy jet behind me, heli v heli battle, more than one IGLA site ...) it's quite possible that I'll get taken out. Believe it or not, some of those strafing runs dont destroy that cursed AA (and  YES I am indeed aiming at it) and when an experienced player is nearby, he can hop in and fire off his missles before I have a chance to evade.  Though, the fact of the matter is that about 75% of BF2 pilots are twits that won't look at you, TK for the plane, force TK's, etc. And those are the ones that you can get easy.

As far as ground goes, an experienced tank driver won't be sitting on top of the TOW and usually won't see the missle coming from the distance. The one that DOES sit on the flag is susceptable to C4 or someone who hops on the TOW while he's looking for that C4 guy. Plus, it's not often that your teamates (the repairing vehicles) will actually sit by you when you have full health (or they won't even be engineers...), so those 2 SRAW missles aimed at the tracks (most people know to aim for the critical point) are instant kill.

You aren't being practical. It takes 10x more organization and focus for the infantry to take out a single fucking tank than the tank requires to do HIS job.

A convoy of intelligent people in vehicles are AT AN ADVANTAGE vs a squad of scattered, equally intelligible infantry.

I have played in many clan-matches and THIS is the reality.

I'm being practical; when there is a tank, people tend to spawn as anti tank. Commanders don't generally give their tanks supply boxes, and even if they DO, there is generally ONE intelligible player who chucks a 'nade at the box to cease the repairs (or the noob that really thinks the 'nade will rid the tank).  A tank can only take so much punishment. But you are correct when you say that a convoy of intelligent people in vehicles is at an advantage against a scattered squad.  However, if this squad is indeed intelligible as you say, they shouldn't have problems with the elimination. AT mines stop the forward progression of a said convoy, and at that point they should be avoidable...

AlphaMale wrote:

Karo6972 wrote:

AlphaMale wrote:

You aren't being practical. It takes 10x more organization and focus for the infantry to take out a single fucking tank than the tank requires to do HIS job.

A convoy of intelligent people in vehicles are AT AN ADVANTAGE vs a squad of scattered, equally intelligible infantry.

I have played in many clan-matches and THIS is the reality.

I'm being practical; when there is a tank, people tend to spawn as anti tank. Commanders don't generally give their tanks supply boxes, and even if they DO, there is generally ONE intelligible player who chucks a 'nade at the box to cease the repairs (or the noob that really thinks the 'nade will rid the tank).  A tank can only take so much punishment. But you are correct when you say that a convoy of intelligent people in vehicles is at an advantage against a scattered squad.  However, if this squad is indeed intelligible as you say, they shouldn't have problems with the elimination. AT mines stop the forward progression of a said convoy, and at that point they should be avoidable...

There is a counter-argument to everything you brought up.

Mines can be disarmed in 3 seconds.

All it takes is one well-placed round to throw a monkey-wrench into the progression of the squad... and it is easier to do that then take out a tank.

Karo6972 wrote:

AlphaMale wrote:

Karo6972 wrote:

I'm being practical; when there is a tank, people tend to spawn as anti tank. Commanders don't generally give their tanks supply boxes, and even if they DO, there is generally ONE intelligible player who chucks a 'nade at the box to cease the repairs (or the noob that really thinks the 'nade will rid the tank).  A tank can only take so much punishment. But you are correct when you say that a convoy of intelligent people in vehicles is at an advantage against a scattered squad.  However, if this squad is indeed intelligible as you say, they shouldn't have problems with the elimination. AT mines stop the forward progression of a said convoy, and at that point they should be avoidable...

There is a counter-argument to everything you brought up.

Mines can be disarmed in 3 seconds.

All it takes is one well-placed round to throw a monkey-wrench into the progression of the squad... and it is easier to do that then take out a tank.

And see, then the fun begins, who disarms the mine?
If it's a convoy member, then that piece of armor is doomed and the members nearest to him are at a disadvantage(no repairs with no one in it to that piece of armor or the ones next to it).
If it's another random guy, then that guy can be eliminated from afar.
If it's a convoy member who decides to take one for the team... He's retarded, +2 for the infantry, 1 armor down.

And, if the squad is intelligent, they will use cover to get away from the tank.

Plus there's that perfect solution... More mines~

AlphaMale wrote:

Karo6972 wrote:

AlphaMale wrote:

There is a counter-argument to everything you brought up.

Mines can be disarmed in 3 seconds.

All it takes is one well-placed round to throw a monkey-wrench into the progression of the squad... and it is easier to do that then take out a tank.

And see, then the fun begins, who disarms the mine?
If it's a convoy member, then that piece of armor is doomed and the members nearest to him are at a disadvantage(no repairs with no one in it to that piece of armor or the ones next to it).
If it's another random guy, then that guy can be eliminated from afar.
If it's a convoy member who decides to take one for the team... He's retarded, +2 for the infantry, 1 armor down.

And, if the squad is intelligent, they will use cover to get away from the tank.

Plus there's that perfect solution... More mines~

Still not counting air superiority.

Last edited by Karo6972 (2006-06-18 21:33:32)

Janysc wrote:

I don't see why Engineer should be an exception? If used properly, the engy's weapons are deadly enough to grant you a medal. If you ignore the MEC-engineer and that horrible shotgun. Pump-action is cooler than it seems; point, blam, +1 kill. Just aim above the legs and someone will die quickly .

Voted "NO". But hey, you might ask why there are no vehicle badges and such... And people are allowed to play as they see fit. C'est la vie.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Janysc wrote:

I don't see why Engineer should be an exception? If used properly, the engy's weapons are deadly enough to grant you a medal. If you ignore the MEC-engineer and that horrible shotgun. Pump-action is cooler than it seems; point, blam, +1 kill. Just aim above the legs and someone will die quickly .

Voted "NO". But hey, you might ask why there are no vehicle badges and such... And people are allowed to play as they see fit. C'est la vie.

There are no vehicle badges?????????