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2006-06-17 11:07:13
Smaug
This space for rent
+117|6818|Arlen, Texas

CL_Crusader wrote:

Some day ago I saw a guy named "...Fuehrer..." on a public server and so I started a little research on inapropriate and racist Nicknames in battlefield 2. Here are some of the most disturbing results:





--------Nichname----------][------------Explanation-------------------------------------------------

[r.e.i.c.h.]Fuehrer               r.e.i.c.h. --> 3rd Reich combined with fuehrer

=0=_Der_Fuehrer_=0=      obvious

adolf88                             since adolf is a regular name, it wouldnt be inapropriate. but combined with 88
                                       (8 = 8th Character in alphabeth = H; so if you write 88 you get HH which is a
                                       common shortcut for "Heil Hitler" which would be translated "Hail Hitler") 88 is often
                                       used by neonazis since the use of such shortcuts isnt prohibited by law while using
                                       Heil Hitler is

-=SS=-=Hitler=-=SS=-     SS = Schutzstaffel ---> A special elite division in WW2. used by Hitler to monitor
                                       the german citizens

-=A.HITLER|rusKoPf|-

-88-hitler                         88 again this time in combination with "hitler"

|H=H|SCHUTZSTAFFEL      Now here weve got the HH shortcut ive talked about before

Schutzstaffel_88               88 combined with SS

Waffen-SchutzStaffel         The "Waffen-Schutzstaffel" was a division of the original SS

Waffen-SS-(GER)              again Waffen-Schutzstaffel" with added "Germany" shortcut







I don't exactly now if these accounts already are deleted or not, but it is simply a shame that people are using these nicks in public.

The main reason I've made this topic is to show the reader that its alerting how uncarefull nazis can be without risking anything.

Unfortunatly I dont now the legal situation in any noneuropean countries, but in my native country and most other european countries promoting stuff with neonazi content is a crime. At least our laws state that.

Also i would appreciate it when you kick players with above or similiar names if youre an admin on a server, and give notice to other players and start a kickvote if youre a player on an server.
I think they're all in the shitekopf clan (not sure about the spelling).

It's not illegal here in the states, just in poor taste.
2006-06-17 11:09:11
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6790|Southeastern USA
Smaug your name is an offense to short hairy-toed people everywhere and I demand you change it
2006-06-17 11:20:35
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6809|Mountains of NC

what would happen if someone had the nic - SSCAMERO

means the car ( bad ass car ) here is america - it could mean something  different in europe
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
2006-06-17 20:30:57
BVC
Member
+325|6936
Who do you think, you are kidding Mr Hitler, if you think that Englands done?

Its a name connected with war, an abbreviation and a number.  If you ban every name/abbreviation/number that causes offence you'll soon be left with no language to use.

Also, BF2 is a computer game about war, which has its roots in an earlier game (BF1942) about the same war (WW2) that bought hitler to the notice of history.  Its to be expected.
2006-06-17 20:43:16
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6782|Omaha, Nebraska!
ya it does make sence that someone would have an account name as Hitler but meh, its just an account nickname, who knows it could be a nice person who has the account and just did that for fun.
2006-06-17 21:22:12
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6797

CL_Crusader wrote:

I respect your opinion there but in my eyes joking about such delicate themes doesnt seem very intelligent to me.

I think most people are using nicknames that are seem cool, good sounding or just fitting to them. So using such nicks doesnt reflect a reasonable person to me.

I dont want to say all of those persons are pure neonazis, but there certainly are some.

Excuse my bad english there but in Austria its 5:30 in the morning and im a little sleepy so i lack in concentration a bit.


about the "freedom of spech": As I said in my country its prohibited to glorify nazi content in  speech and writtenly. Its called "Wiederbetätigung" here but theres no word I can think of in english.
The point is that you can't expect an entire community to be filled with only intelligent and reasonable people.
2006-06-17 21:25:34
Beer_Ranger
Member
+18|6935|usa
So, should we allso round up everyone with one of those wierd moustaches like he wore and beat them with oars as well? Thats a wise idea... /sarcasm
2006-06-17 21:43:18
Trooper_Collider
Member
+25|6985
I know a guy named Hittler; yipe, with a double t, coz his father mispelled the name, lol! and Hitler's not even a first name, but a last name.




Semper Fi!

Last edited by Trooper_Collider (2006-06-18 02:06:06)

2006-06-17 21:55:00
spastic bullet
would like to know if you are on crack
+77|6782|vancouver
If it doesn't offend me, it isn't offensive.

OTOH, I was talking to a friend the other day about North American sports franchises and how their names are often "lethal" or at least "intimidating" in some way...  e.g. in hockey, the San Jose Sharks or the Tampa Bay Lightning.  If someone in my family died because of a shark attack, or lightning strike, I'd probably feel kinda sad every time I saw those teams, but obviously you just have to get over it.

But where do you draw the line?  The Louisiana Katrinas?  The LA Riots?  The NY 9/11s?  Needless to say, we had a bit of fun with that, because it didn't happen to us.
2006-06-17 22:06:26
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6790|Southeastern USA
to trooper

I tried to stay awake throught that vid clip, I've seen lots of that stuff before though, basically anyone dealing with any German business from the 30's to the 50's could be said to be supporting Naziism, I dated a girl with a Mitsubishi Eclipse, that doesn't mean she was in favor of Japan experimenting with Chinese in labs to see the effects of radiatioin on genitalia

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2006-06-17 22:08:22
Beer_Ranger
Member
+18|6935|usa

spastic bullet wrote:

If it doesn't offend me, it isn't offensive.

OTOH, I was talking to a friend the other day about North American sports franchises and how their names are often "lethal" or at least "intimidating" in some way...  e.g. in hockey, the San Jose Sharks or the Tampa Bay Lightning.  If someone in my family died because of a shark attack, or lightning strike, I'd probably feel kinda sad every time I saw those teams, but obviously you just have to get over it.

But where do you draw the line?  The Louisiana Katrinas?  The LA Riots?  The NY 9/11s?  Needless to say, we had a bit of fun with that, because it didn't happen to us.
You forgot the washington bullets. Man... the name wizards is just so ghey.
2006-06-17 22:13:02
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6797

Trooper_Collider wrote:

I know a guy named Hittler; yipe, with a double t, coz his father mispelled the name, lol! and Hitler's not even a first name, but a last name. But seriously, check this link:

www.911busters.com

Then go to

"Misc. Audio/ Video Evidence Exposing the 9-11 Cover Up"

and then search for the

"Bush Nazi Crime Family History" video. It's awesome stuff!! I still dunno what to think about it.



Semper Fi!
Very unlikely hypotheses.  There is no possible way the "Bush regime" could be continued after George W.'s term ends (I don't think Jeb is too hot in the national market these days ). Not only that, but the idea that the new war against Iraq was an  "unwarranted attack" on for "world domination" is just senseless. There are a ton of other implications for such administrative motives, and "world domination" is definitely not one of them. lol.
2006-06-17 22:15:06
Beer_Ranger
Member
+18|6935|usa
Man, lets stay off bush. Unless your female and hot.
2006-06-17 22:16:58
Smaug
This space for rent
+117|6818|Arlen, Texas

kr@cker wrote:

Smaug your name is an offense to short hairy-toed people everywhere and I demand you change it
MMMMMMM Burahobbits!
2006-06-17 22:37:35
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6768|Portland, OR USA

CL_Crusader wrote:

I know that my origin may got a certain influence on this topic because here in central europe its a nearly omnipresent theme but I ve got my doubts about that "just deal with it". IMHO its exactly the wrong way. What if everybody "just dealt with it". The now existing right wing radical network would boom. Theyve got a damn organized way to bring there message to the people that are willing to hear it. Regardless if its music, video material or simply 3rd Reich merchandise.
On the contrary, there is a rampant surge of political correctness running out of control certainly in the US, and as is evident by your post, the reset of the world as well.  That which we forget we are doomed to repeat.  There are chapters of history we may like to forget, but that will only lead to ruin.  We have a choice when remembering events.  We can fear it or embrace it and integrate it into ourselves.

Now, a nick like H0ll0custLUVR (yes, thats made up), yeah - thats a bit ridiculous.  However, none of those names really seemed to address that, just a particular historical figure.  I might add that while megalomaniacal and genodical, he did have some good ideas.  Now, before I'm hit by a barage of negative karma, let me just say that I'm not saying he was a good guy, or that the ends justified the means, or whatever.  Nor am I saying that you should only look at the good.  I'm just saying that it did exist and we should similarly not only look at the bad.  Anyone stop to think how Volkswagon got its start?  A shameful beginning, but a beginning none the less.  Rocketry as well as many other areas of science and medicine can trace advancements directly back to programs begun by the Nazi regime.

At any rate, there are far worse names out there - far worse.  Ultimately, humor is in the eye of the beholder.  The more offended you get, the more power you are yielding to anyone and everyone who touches on those sensitive areas.  View it as ignorance, or just accept it as a difference in opinion - but don't give anyone that much power over you.  Of course, this is all just IMHO.  I'm not trying to start a flame war, or any pro Nazi sentiment, but just present a point of view open to all sides, not just the monstrocities and attrocities that take center stage.
2006-06-17 22:47:13
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6797

puckmercury wrote:

CL_Crusader wrote:

I know that my origin may got a certain influence on this topic because here in central europe its a nearly omnipresent theme but I ve got my doubts about that "just deal with it". IMHO its exactly the wrong way. What if everybody "just dealt with it". The now existing right wing radical network would boom. Theyve got a damn organized way to bring there message to the people that are willing to hear it. Regardless if its music, video material or simply 3rd Reich merchandise.
On the contrary, there is a rampant surge of political correctness running out of control certainly in the US, and as is evident by your post, the reset of the world as well.  That which we forget we are doomed to repeat.  There are chapters of history we may like to forget, but that will only lead to ruin.  We have a choice when remembering events.  We can fear it or embrace it and integrate it into ourselves.

Now, a nick like H0ll0custLUVR (yes, thats made up), yeah - thats a bit ridiculous.  However, none of those names really seemed to address that, just a particular historical figure.  I might add that while megalomaniacal and genodical, he did have some good ideas.  Now, before I'm hit by a barage of negative karma, let me just say that I'm not saying he was a good guy, or that the ends justified the means, or whatever.  Nor am I saying that you should only look at the good.  I'm just saying that it did exist and we should similarly not only look at the bad.  Anyone stop to think how Volkswagon got its start?  A shameful beginning, but a beginning none the less.  Rocketry as well as many other areas of science and medicine can trace advancements directly back to programs begun by the Nazi regime.

At any rate, there are far worse names out there - far worse.  Ultimately, humor is in the eye of the beholder.  The more offended you get, the more power you are yielding to anyone and everyone who touches on those sensitive areas.  View it as ignorance, or just accept it as a difference in opinion - but don't give anyone that much power over you.  Of course, this is all just IMHO.  I'm not trying to start a flame war, or any pro Nazi sentiment, but just present a point of view open to all sides, not just the monstrocities and attrocities that take center stage.
The point is that just because someone's fool ass somehow finds it "funny" to make humor of parties with direct relation to the death of 6,000,000+ Jews, doesn't mean that it's okay to express such openly. You people satirically joke "Oh, well whatever someone sees as offensive shouldn't be allowed if we go by this standard of dignity", but in reality, the fact is that your references are without the extreme magnitude of devastation behind the Holocaust and its affiliated instigators. Sure, it isn't intrusive to talk about it in general contexts, but to don such applications and then run around shooting people just mocks the seriousness that this subject holds. Will I go haywire over people doing this? No. Will I view these people to be less then dignified? Yes.

(P.S. lmao. I got positive karma for my reply 2 posts up [with the yellow highlights], saying "you actually said something resonable and intelligent for once!". I'd like to know when I've said something that wasn't reasonable nor intelligent in this here "Debate and Serious Talk" forum subsection. Please. Lemme' knows. I'm kyeereeuhss.)

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-06-17 23:14:11)

2006-06-17 23:01:19
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6768|Portland, OR USA
Xietsu -

And ultimately that is your opinion, which is at the heart of all of this - differing opinions.  All mock and sarcasm aside, who and what decides what is too far?  Who makes the call on what is acceptible and what crosses the etherial Maginot (?) Line of good taste?  Now true, I agree with you, it is neither dignified nor in good taste, so I don't engage in it.  My handle is a combination of Shakespeare and Roman/Greek mythology.  Now, I don't see a reasonable way one could take offense to that, but I imagine someone could.  However, that being said I recognize the right of someone to be an asshat.  In response to that, I don't engage them and avoid them - they aren't worth my time and they certainly aren't worth any disruption in my existence.  Again, I give no one that power, least of all a casual passer by in my walk of life.
2006-06-17 23:05:47
kessel!
Peruvian Cocaine
+261|7006|Toronto Canada
i hate nazis. they are blinding intolerant
2006-06-17 23:15:29
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6802
Bubbalo is insulting to people against ice-cream soldiers........
2006-06-17 23:19:54
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6797

Bubbalo wrote:

Bubbalo is insulting to people against ice-cream soldiers........
A Bubbalo is an ice-cream soldier? lol J/K, I know it isn't...but uh...wtf? Why say ice-cream soldier...?
2006-06-17 23:22:50
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6802
Because I got it off Bubbalo Bill, the ice-cream sherriff with a bubblegum nose.  I think it was made by Peters, which is Australian (I think) so those not from Australia will probably have never heard of it.........
2006-06-17 23:26:37
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6797

Bubbalo wrote:

Because I got it off Bubbalo Bill, the ice-cream sherriff with a bubblegum nose.  I think it was made by Peters, which is Australian (I think) so those not from Australia will probably have never heard of it.........
Why would Australia make a pun off of an American figure...(and then...considering such...why would you use it? loool)?

(P.S. American figure = Buffalo Bill)

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2006-06-17 23:30:32
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6802

Xietsu wrote:

(P.S. American figure = Buffalo Bill)
Yeah, I know.  We get American TV, so a fair amount of culture seepage.  My uncle's favourite show when he was little was that lone ranger one.
2006-06-17 23:31:08
messfeeder
Member
+31|6768|Gotham

CL_Crusader wrote:

Some day ago I saw a guy named "...Fuehrer..." on a public server and so I started a little research on inapropriate and racist Nicknames in battlefield 2. Here are some of the most disturbing results:





--------Nichname----------][------------Explanation-------------------------------------------------

[r.e.i.c.h.]Fuehrer               r.e.i.c.h. --> 3rd Reich combined with fuehrer

=0=_Der_Fuehrer_=0=      obvious

adolf88                             since adolf is a regular name, it wouldnt be inapropriate. but combined with 88
                                       (8 = 8th Character in alphabeth = H; so if you write 88 you get HH which is a
                                       common shortcut for "Heil Hitler" which would be translated "Hail Hitler") 88 is often
                                       used by neonazis since the use of such shortcuts isnt prohibited by law while using
                                       Heil Hitler is

-=SS=-=Hitler=-=SS=-     SS = Schutzstaffel ---> A special elite division in WW2. used by Hitler to monitor
                                       the german citizens

-=A.HITLER|rusKoPf|-

-88-hitler                         88 again this time in combination with "hitler"

|H=H|SCHUTZSTAFFEL      Now here weve got the HH shortcut ive talked about before

Schutzstaffel_88               88 combined with SS

Waffen-SchutzStaffel         The "Waffen-Schutzstaffel" was a division of the original SS

Waffen-SS-(GER)              again Waffen-Schutzstaffel" with added "Germany" shortcut







I don't exactly now if these accounts already are deleted or not, but it is simply a shame that people are using these nicks in public.

The main reason I've made this topic is to show the reader that its alerting how uncarefull nazis can be without risking anything.

Unfortunatly I dont now the legal situation in any noneuropean countries, but in my native country and most other european countries promoting stuff with neonazi content is a crime. At least our laws state that.

Also i would appreciate it when you kick players with above or similiar names if youre an admin on a server, and give notice to other players and start a kickvote if youre a player on an server.
Why do you freakin' care?  I could understand if they made some comment in-game, but trying to get someone's account deleted b/c of their name is just stupid.
2006-06-17 23:39:37
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6797

messfeeder wrote:

CL_Crusader wrote:

Some day ago I saw a guy named "...Fuehrer..." on a public server and so I started a little research on inapropriate and racist Nicknames in battlefield 2. Here are some of the most disturbing results:





--------Nichname----------][------------Explanation-------------------------------------------------

[r.e.i.c.h.]Fuehrer               r.e.i.c.h. --> 3rd Reich combined with fuehrer

=0=_Der_Fuehrer_=0=      obvious

adolf88                             since adolf is a regular name, it wouldnt be inapropriate. but combined with 88
                                       (8 = 8th Character in alphabeth = H; so if you write 88 you get HH which is a
                                       common shortcut for "Heil Hitler" which would be translated "Hail Hitler") 88 is often
                                       used by neonazis since the use of such shortcuts isnt prohibited by law while using
                                       Heil Hitler is

-=SS=-=Hitler=-=SS=-     SS = Schutzstaffel ---> A special elite division in WW2. used by Hitler to monitor
                                       the german citizens

-=A.HITLER|rusKoPf|-

-88-hitler                         88 again this time in combination with "hitler"

|H=H|SCHUTZSTAFFEL      Now here weve got the HH shortcut ive talked about before

Schutzstaffel_88               88 combined with SS

Waffen-SchutzStaffel         The "Waffen-Schutzstaffel" was a division of the original SS

Waffen-SS-(GER)              again Waffen-Schutzstaffel" with added "Germany" shortcut







I don't exactly now if these accounts already are deleted or not, but it is simply a shame that people are using these nicks in public.

The main reason I've made this topic is to show the reader that its alerting how uncarefull nazis can be without risking anything.

Unfortunatly I dont now the legal situation in any noneuropean countries, but in my native country and most other european countries promoting stuff with neonazi content is a crime. At least our laws state that.

Also i would appreciate it when you kick players with above or similiar names if youre an admin on a server, and give notice to other players and start a kickvote if youre a player on an server.
Why do you freakin' care?  I could understand if they made some comment in-game, but trying to get someone's account deleted b/c of their name is just stupid.
Yeah, read the third post I've made on the fifth page and maybe you'll understand why some people give a hoot. You act as though it's bad to pay your respects and recognize the severity of occurrence by not mocking it.

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-06-17 23:40:01)

 

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