My_pet_squirrel
Have you seen my nutz?
+126|6850
"Governor signs HB3004, making games with "inappropriate violence" harmful to minors; such titles will be subject to same restrictions as sexually explicit magazines, videos.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Jun 10, 2006 3:38 pm PT
Democratic Oklahoma Governor Brad Henry yesterday signed into law HB3004, which revises the state's definition of what is harmful to minors to include games with "inappropriate violence." Previously, the only content that would qualify something as harmful to minors involved sex or sadomasochistic abuse.

In a statement, Henry criticized violence in games that he said had grown "to epic proportions." He added, "While parents have the ultimate responsibility for what their children do and see, this legislation is another tool to ensure that our young people are not saturated in violence. This gives parents the power to more closely regulate which games their children play."

Under the law, no person, not even minors' parents or guardians, would be allowed to give or show them an inappropriately violent game. Retailers would also not be able to have such games on display where minors could see them, unless the lower two-thirds of the boxes were hidden behind "blinder racks," of the sort commonly used for sexually explicit magazines.

The law defines "inappropriate violence" as any depiction in a game that, when taken as a whole, has the following characteristics:
"a. the average person eighteen (18) years of age or older applying contemporary community standards would find that the interactive video game or computer software is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community with respect to what is suitable for minors, and
b. the interactive video game or computer software lacks serious literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors based on, but not limited to, the following criteria:
(1) is glamorized or gratuitous,
(2) is graphic violence used to shock or stimulate,
(3) is graphic violence that is not contextually relevant to the material,
(4) is so pervasive that it serves as the thread holding the plot of the material together,
(5) trivializes the serious nature of realistic violence,
(6) does not demonstrate the consequences or effects of realistic violence,
(7) uses brutal weapons designed to inflict the maximum amount of pain and damage,
(8) endorses or glorifies torture or excessive weaponry, or
(9) depicts lead characters who resort to violence freely"


While the definition of inappropriate violence specifies that it must take place in a game, the new definition of "harmful to minors" specifies "any description, exhibition, presentation or representation, in whatever form [emphasis added], of inappropriate violence." This means that video footage showing the violent gameplay, a review of the game in question, or even a newspaper editorial decrying the violence in the game would be classified as harmful to minors, according to a lawyer GameSpot consulted on the matter.

Several weeks ago, GameSpot interviewed the bill's co-author, Republican Representative Fred Morgan, and asked if that was the bill's original intent. At the time he said he needed to examine the language of the bill before answering, but later on he commented that he did not agree with that interpretation.

Neither the state nor national branches of the American Civil Liberties Union returned GameSpot's phone calls regarding the law. The Entertainment Software Association was not available for comment but is almost certain to file suit in this case, as it has in California, Illinois, Minnesota, Washington, and other states where restrictive gaming legislation has been passed.

The law is slated to go into effect November 1."

Is Oklahoma really going to affect the gaiming bussiness? :p
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6797|NYC / Hamburg

thank god i live in switzerland ... here nobody cares about age restrictions.

I knew there was a reason i distrust democrats and people form oklahoma.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
bigp66
Member
+63|6778|memphfrica-memphis,TN

My_pet_squirrel wrote:

"Governor signs HB3004, making games with "inappropriate violence" harmful to minors; such titles will be subject to same restrictions as sexually explicit magazines, videos.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Jun 10, 2006 3:38 pm PT
Democratic Oklahoma Governor Brad Henry yesterday signed into law HB3004, which revises the state's definition of what is harmful to minors to include games with "inappropriate violence." Previously, the only content that would qualify something as harmful to minors involved sex or sadomasochistic abuse.

In a statement, Henry criticized violence in games that he said had grown "to epic proportions." He added, "While parents have the ultimate responsibility for what their children do and see, this legislation is another tool to ensure that our young people are not saturated in violence. This gives parents the power to more closely regulate which games their children play."

Under the law, no person, not even minors' parents or guardians, would be allowed to give or show them an inappropriately violent game. Retailers would also not be able to have such games on display where minors could see them, unless the lower two-thirds of the boxes were hidden behind "blinder racks," of the sort commonly used for sexually explicit magazines.

The law defines "inappropriate violence" as any depiction in a game that, when taken as a whole, has the following characteristics:
"a. the average person eighteen (18) years of age or older applying contemporary community standards would find that the interactive video game or computer software is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community with respect to what is suitable for minors, and
b. the interactive video game or computer software lacks serious literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors based on, but not limited to, the following criteria:
(1) is glamorized or gratuitous,
(2) is graphic violence used to shock or stimulate,
(3) is graphic violence that is not contextually relevant to the material,
(4) is so pervasive that it serves as the thread holding the plot of the material together,
(5) trivializes the serious nature of realistic violence,
(6) does not demonstrate the consequences or effects of realistic violence,
(7) uses brutal weapons designed to inflict the maximum amount of pain and damage,
(8) endorses or glorifies torture or excessive weaponry, or
(9) depicts lead characters who resort to violence freely"


While the definition of inappropriate violence specifies that it must take place in a game, the new definition of "harmful to minors" specifies "any description, exhibition, presentation or representation, in whatever form [emphasis added], of inappropriate violence." This means that video footage showing the violent gameplay, a review of the game in question, or even a newspaper editorial decrying the violence in the game would be classified as harmful to minors, according to a lawyer GameSpot consulted on the matter.

Several weeks ago, GameSpot interviewed the bill's co-author, Republican Representative Fred Morgan, and asked if that was the bill's original intent. At the time he said he needed to examine the language of the bill before answering, but later on he commented that he did not agree with that interpretation.

Neither the state nor national branches of the American Civil Liberties Union returned GameSpot's phone calls regarding the law. The Entertainment Software Association was not available for comment but is almost certain to file suit in this case, as it has in California, Illinois, Minnesota, Washington, and other states where restrictive gaming legislation has been passed.

The law is slated to go into effect November 1."

Is Oklahoma really going to affect the gaiming bussiness? :p
What do you expect it was signed by a hippy
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6818|Allentown, PA, USA
Too many Liberals in this country. They can say what they want as long as it doesn't affect me. They do something like this in PA and I'm gonna flip shit.
Foxhoundmgw
Man of Moebius Morals
+71|6810|Nottingham, UK
So uh, Americas Army isn't on Oklahoma's list of 'wholesome' computer games?
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6946

Foxhoundmgw wrote:

So uh, Americas Army isn't on Oklahoma's list of 'wholesome' computer games?
i dont think so since its downloaded i think the future of america is that theyll ban every game except for americas army and kids join the army lol... at least im in taiwan where 5 yr old kids play CS
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tvmissleman
The Cereal Killer
+201|6888| United States of America

Capt. Foley wrote:

Too many Liberals in this country. They can say what they want as long as it doesn't affect me. They do something like this in PA and I'm gonna flip shit.
same here in UT
cheshiremoe
Evil Geniuses for a sparsely populated tomorrow
+50|6939

Capt. Foley wrote:

Too many Liberals in this country. They can say what they want as long as it doesn't affect me. They do something like this in PA and I'm gonna flip shit.
I don't think you can say this is coming from liberals or any other political ideology.  Not everything fits into Liberals vs. conservatives.
I would think that this was coming from Christian family groups ( witch I think of as conservative), but I don't have any supporting evidence.
chittydog
less busy
+586|7065|Kubra, Damn it!

You're absolutely right cheshire. Oklahoma is also where the predominantly Republican state government has cut the alcohol content of beer down to 3% and made it illegal to get tattoos (that tattoo thing may have changed recently, though). The world's not black & white (or red & blue in this case). This is the fault of a bunch of wackos trying to curtail the rights of Americans. If they don't like what's in the games, spend some time getting parents involved to let THEM make their own decisions about what their kids see.
KnowMeByTrailOfDead
Jackass of all Trades
+62|6911|Dayton, Ohio
Under the law, no person, not even minors' parents or guardians, would be allowed to give or show them an inappropriately violent game. Retailers would also not be able to have such games on display where minors could see them, unless the lower two-thirds of the boxes were hidden behind "blinder racks," of the sort commonly used for sexually explicit magazines
That part is BS.  This means a parent could get Fined/arrested for allowing a minor to play Doom.  Hell if you are going to go after violence do something about the bullshit they show on the news every freakin night.  That is usually more graphic in nature than our games.  Got to love stupid.
travisb05
bullseye (+)
+58|6929|U.S
that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. and i think people will protest and that law will be taken off. It will be like EA making a new patch it will be fixed soon. they will be working around the cock.
LOL

Last edited by travisb05 (2006-06-14 08:49:32)

chittydog
less busy
+586|7065|Kubra, Damn it!

My_pet_squirrel wrote:

Is Oklahoma really going to affect the gaiming bussiness? :p
Probably not. There was something published recently that said most gamers are 18+ now anyway. Anyone know if there are any other states with laws like this? Utah, we're looking at you...
smtt686
this is the best we can do?
+95|6861|USA

My_pet_squirrel wrote:

"Governor signs HB3004, making games with "inappropriate violence" harmful to minors; such titles will be subject to same restrictions as sexually explicit magazines, videos.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Jun 10, 2006 3:38 pm PT
Democratic Oklahoma Governor Brad Henry yesterday signed into law HB3004, which revises the state's definition of what is harmful to minors to include games with "inappropriate violence." Previously, the only content that would qualify something as harmful to minors involved sex or sadomasochistic abuse.

In a statement, Henry criticized violence in games that he said had grown "to epic proportions." He added, "While parents have the ultimate responsibility for what their children do and see, this legislation is another tool to ensure that our young people are not saturated in violence. This gives parents the power to more closely regulate which games their children play."

Under the law, no person, not even minors' parents or guardians, would be allowed to give or show them an inappropriately violent game. Retailers would also not be able to have such games on display where minors could see them, unless the lower two-thirds of the boxes were hidden behind "blinder racks," of the sort commonly used for sexually explicit magazines.

The law defines "inappropriate violence" as any depiction in a game that, when taken as a whole, has the following characteristics:
"a. the average person eighteen (18) years of age or older applying contemporary community standards would find that the interactive video game or computer software is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community with respect to what is suitable for minors, and
b. the interactive video game or computer software lacks serious literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors based on, but not limited to, the following criteria:
(1) is glamorized or gratuitous,
(2) is graphic violence used to shock or stimulate,
(3) is graphic violence that is not contextually relevant to the material,
(4) is so pervasive that it serves as the thread holding the plot of the material together,
(5) trivializes the serious nature of realistic violence,
(6) does not demonstrate the consequences or effects of realistic violence,
(7) uses brutal weapons designed to inflict the maximum amount of pain and damage,
(8) endorses or glorifies torture or excessive weaponry, or
(9) depicts lead characters who resort to violence freely"


While the definition of inappropriate violence specifies that it must take place in a game, the new definition of "harmful to minors" specifies "any description, exhibition, presentation or representation, in whatever form [emphasis added], of inappropriate violence." This means that video footage showing the violent gameplay, a review of the game in question, or even a newspaper editorial decrying the violence in the game would be classified as harmful to minors, according to a lawyer GameSpot consulted on the matter.

Several weeks ago, GameSpot interviewed the bill's co-author, Republican Representative Fred Morgan, and asked if that was the bill's original intent. At the time he said he needed to examine the language of the bill before answering, but later on he commented that he did not agree with that interpretation.

Neither the state nor national branches of the American Civil Liberties Union returned GameSpot's phone calls regarding the law. The Entertainment Software Association was not available for comment but is almost certain to file suit in this case, as it has in California, Illinois, Minnesota, Washington, and other states where restrictive gaming legislation has been passed.

The law is slated to go into effect November 1."

Is Oklahoma really going to affect the gaiming bussiness? :p
does this mean that ads for these games are no longer allowed in oklahoma after nov 1st?  lord knows you cant advertise porn there and since they are putting it in the same class.  this could get interesting!
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|6807|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!
Think about it..bf2 is not violent...i shoot some 1 in the face with a 12 gauge and the only things that come out is Dust...freaking dust wtf...i want blood!!! A shooter aint a shooter witout GORE!!!


Gore ftw!
KnowMeByTrailOfDead
Jackass of all Trades
+62|6911|Dayton, Ohio

chittydog wrote:

My_pet_squirrel wrote:

Is Oklahoma really going to affect the gaiming bussiness? :p
Probably not. There was something published recently that said most gamers are 18+ now anyway. Anyone know if there are any other states with laws like this? Utah, we're looking at you...
Every state that has passed one has had it repealed.  The entertainment industry has a lot of lawyers.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|6994|Dallas
Being born and raised in Oklahoma, I don't know why they are wasting their time with stupid video games when a town in Oklahoma called Snyder is considered by the FBI to be the Meth capital of the world.  Oklahoma really steams my bucket on a lot of issues, mostly Indian Affairs and how they allow the entire state to be turned into giant Casino cash machines for the Indians while neglecting simple infastructure like roads, public education and law enforcement.

LOL, why do you think I live in Texas?
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6883
Do they put violent films on 'blinder' shelves there too?
My_pet_squirrel
Have you seen my nutz?
+126|6850

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Think about it..bf2 is not violent...i shoot some 1 in the face with a 12 gauge and the only things that come out is Dust...freaking dust wtf...i want blood!!! A shooter aint a shooter witout GORE!!!


Gore ftw!
Thats why it is T for teen =/ blood would make it mature
doxy
Member
+74|7020|Nevis

max wrote:

thank god i live in switzerland ... here nobody cares about age restrictions.

I knew there was a reason i distrust democrats and people form oklahoma.
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swiss censorship does not allow his citizens to buy/own/produce/trade/transport any kind of violence or pr0n to show up in any media, also sculpture art, that has no cultural or scientific value. you can be booked for up to one year jail, for being in touch with any kind of that media.

yeah true fact, switzerland people don't care about restrictions, they have no index file, where interested citizens could inform themselves what movies they are allowed to buy/own/produce/trade/transport. in 2005 people were charged and convicted guilty, for violating this law (Art.135), they owned horror movies that were available in almost every movie selling store over switzerland.
Kung Jew
That one mod
+331|6975|Houston, TX
So now I'll have to shop for games in a 'behind-the-curtain' section?  I will be prosecuted for allowing my nephew to play said game?  Every gamer with age < 18 will be limited to Mario's pillow fight? (Princess not included due to possibility of misconstrued content)

That's just stupid.  Really, really, stupid.

KJ
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|6918|UK
[sarcasm]this i why i just love americans[/sarcasm]
howler_27
Member
+90|6917
A liberal with morals??? LMFAO!!!!!   Yep, that's where your hard earned tax dollars are going.  Clearly, computer games are the problem with our society.  God forbid that the government actually educate kids in the school systems and provide positive steps for kids to excel.  Yes, it does start with the parents.  This is just one way for lawmakers to put their time into easy so-called problems instead of spending the time to tackle the true problems that government is having.  Unfortunately, with no video games present, Billy Bob and sister will have to divert back to the good old days of inbreeding to pass the time.
doxy
Member
+74|7020|Nevis

howler_27 wrote:

A liberal with morals??? LMFAO!!!!!   Yep, that's where your hard earned tax dollars are going.  Clearly, computer games are the problem with our society.  God forbid that the government actually educate kids in the school systems and provide positive steps for kids to excel.  Yes, it does start with the parents.  This is just one way for lawmakers to put their time into easy so-called problems instead of spending the time to tackle the true problems that government is having.  Unfortunately, with no video games present, Billy Bob and sister will have to divert back to the good old days of inbreeding to pass the time.
god?
younggun
Member
+28|6873

Cougar wrote:

Being born and raised in Oklahoma, I don't know why they are wasting their time with stupid video games when a town in Oklahoma called Snyder is considered by the FBI to be the Meth capital of the world. Oklahoma really steams my bucket on a lot of issues, mostly Indian Affairs and how they allow the entire state to be turned into giant Casino cash machines for the Indians while neglecting simple infastructure like roads, public education and law enforcement.

LOL, why do you think I live in Texas?
Yeh try more like Coles County, Illinois for meth capital of the world. Mainly because the "task force" doesn't do much. Actually used to be a billboard somewhere in northern Florida that said "Want to commit a crime? Go to Coles County, Illinois"

How sad is that?

PS. Yes I live in Coles County lol
cheshiremoe
Evil Geniuses for a sparsely populated tomorrow
+50|6939

younggun wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Being born and raised in Oklahoma, I don't know why they are wasting their time with stupid video games when a town in Oklahoma called Snyder is considered by the FBI to be the Meth capital of the world. Oklahoma really steams my bucket on a lot of issues, mostly Indian Affairs and how they allow the entire state to be turned into giant Casino cash machines for the Indians while neglecting simple infastructure like roads, public education and law enforcement.

LOL, why do you think I live in Texas?
Yeh try more like Coles County, Illinois for meth capital of the world. Mainly because the "task force" doesn't do much. Actually used to be a billboard somewhere in northern Florida that said "Want to commit a crime? Go to Coles County, Illinois"

How sad is that?

PS. Yes I live in Coles County lol
That title, the Meth capital of the world, moves somewhere new in the us every few years.  I was told a neighboring city was the meth capital ( it was back in the 90's). Medford OR, could not go a week with out having some news story about a meth lab bust for a while.  I have heard other places called that too.

Last edited by cheshiremoe (2006-06-14 11:42:44)

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