Viper38
Member
+118|6910
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1796720,00.html

Edit: Discuss his motivation for the trip (I know very little of George W. and would appreciate well-thought out comments)

Edit2: Just to bring up another point ... what do you think of the article, in terms of accuracy or political bias etc. (just curious)

Last edited by Viper38 (2006-06-13 16:53:24)

splixx
ChupaCABRA
+53|6979|Omaha, Nebraska
Hopefully a stray motar does not hit his position...
eMarine
Gorgonnash PVP
+119|7084|Sacramento, Cal
lolz
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6800
Your either with him or against him.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|6991|Chicago.

rawls2 wrote:

Your either with him or against him.
True, so true.

Me= for.

As for the explination:
We just nailed a top terrorist leader. That is a morale booster is it not? Lets kick it up a notch. Fly the President in, have him meet with local officials, and re-affirm our dedication to rid the world of Terrorism. It was a brilliant plan in my eyes, and I believe the shock of him actually being in the former capital is a fantastic boost in morale and hope for US troops abroad.
Maybe you disagree with me, feel free to.

Thats my explination Viper, hope it was enough information for you.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6868|IRELAND

The Iraqi Prime Minster had 10min's notice that a foreign president was in his country before he met him. I think that says it all about the puppet government which has been installed. Its a good moral boost to the troops. He hasn't been out there in 3 years, same as katrina..........better late than never I guess.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7008
Motivation: drag his approval ratings up to the dizzy heights of >30
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6949|Wilmington, DE, US
I can't comment on how I truly feel or the NSA will take me away. Some freedom of speech.

Condaleeza Rice once said that a safe nation is one where you can go out to town square and say what you want and not have to be fearful of what might happen to you...she was referring to some former Soviet state (Georgia I think) but it applies here as well. God bless the Patriot Act.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7077
Buck up the troops and people involved for a job well done. Boost his approval.  There was a lot of cheering. They must have liked what he had to say.

Either for him or against him? such is War if you admit it or not.

Last edited by Horseman 77 (2006-06-13 16:55:03)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6837|Seattle

I like G-dub. He's not a pussy. I can respect that.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
-=]DeatH1337[=-
Member
+51|6874|England

JahManRed wrote:

The Iraqi Prime Minster had 10min's notice that a foreign president was in his country before he met him. I think that says it all about the puppet government which has been installed. Its a good moral boost to the troops. He hasn't been out there in 3 years, same as katrina..........better late than never I guess.
So they give the guy a weeks notice allowing insurgents time to plan an assasination ?

Last edited by -=]DeatH1337[=- (2006-06-13 16:51:05)

nieker
THE FLYING DUTCH PENGUIN, THE NINTENDO PENGUIN
+191|6867|The Netherlands
https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2829/whocares68qt1dh0zt.jpg
i mean if our primeary-minester goes to afganistan noone make a treat so
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(if it was your pic mail me and il give some karma for the good pics=p)
splixx
ChupaCABRA
+53|6979|Omaha, Nebraska
Yesterday 18:46:46 -1 George W. Bush in surprise visit to Baghdad Why would you say such a horrible thing? 

Because it would do the world a favor... Done now you know.
MoChief
Member
+67|6842

King_County_Downy wrote:

I like G-dub. He's not a pussy. I can respect that.
He didn't finish his enlistment in Tex. Air National Guard.  In fact... he just stopped showing up.  He is a pussy.

Excuse me while I go clear some brush.

But first...  watch this drive.

Keep up the good work.  You're doing a heckuva job.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6949|Wilmington, DE, US

splixx wrote:

Yesterday 18:46:46 -1 George W. Bush in surprise visit to Baghdad Why would you say such a horrible thing? 

Because it would do the world a favor... Done now you know.
OMG HOW COULD U?

haha
MoChief
Member
+67|6842
To be on topic:

Bush went to Baghdad to show support for the new Prime Minister.  It had two target audiences:  1)  International to show we care about Iraq and its new government.  2) American populace... to show he can go to Iraq.  It was a neat PR stunt.... nobody knew it was going to happen. 

In my opinion, politically, Bush needs these small victories.  His approval rating is low enough that he can't hit a home run on domestic legislation but can do some of the more basic things correctly.  I'm not a Bush fan but won't bash him too much on his visit to Iraq.  But I would note that with the 10 minutes notice to the Iraqi prime minister, it shows they are NOT in control of their own country (imagine some foreign leader springing a surprise like that on Bush w/ 10 min notice).  Also noted is that Bush was there for 5 or 6 hours, helicoptered to the green zone and never left that zone until he went back to the airport. 

As for the cheering... he had a selected audience.  'nuff said.

All in all... I still give him a semi-thumbs up on the trip itself.  What I'd like to see next is more honesty from his administration and a swift kick in the ass to the incompetent boobs that continually make poor decisions and give bad advice.  He promised accountability.  I'm still waiting.
kessel!
Peruvian Cocaine
+261|7005|Toronto Canada
Yes i agree that his audience was selected.

Did anyone see that SNL skit about that?
splixx
ChupaCABRA
+53|6979|Omaha, Nebraska

Ikarti wrote:

splixx wrote:

Yesterday 18:46:46 -1 George W. Bush in surprise visit to Baghdad Why would you say such a horrible thing? 

Because it would do the world a favor... Done now you know.
OMG HOW COULD U?

haha
I know I am such a terrible evil person... SORRY!

JahManRed
wank
+646|6868|IRELAND

-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

The Iraqi Prime Minster had 10min's notice that a foreign president was in his country before he met him. I think that says it all about the puppet government which has been installed. Its a good moral boost to the troops. He hasn't been out there in 3 years, same as katrina..........better late than never I guess.
So they give the guy a weeks notice allowing insurgents time to plan an assasination ?
Are you implying that the new president of Iraq would give out information to the insurgents?
Look I do understand that if it leaked out, every insurgent in the country would have a pop shot at his black hawk on the way into the green zone. My point was however, that I feel the current Iraqi President is toothless and has no power whatsoever, as Ive said before, Iraqi is under the wing of the US Federal government.
Erkut.hv
Member
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JahManRed wrote:

-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

The Iraqi Prime Minster had 10min's notice that a foreign president was in his country before he met him. I think that says it all about the puppet government which has been installed. Its a good moral boost to the troops. He hasn't been out there in 3 years, same as katrina..........better late than never I guess.
So they give the guy a weeks notice allowing insurgents time to plan an assasination ?
Are you implying that the new president of Iraq would give out information to the insurgents?
Look I do understand that if it leaked out, every insurgent in the country would have a pop shot at his black hawk on the way into the green zone. My point was however, that I feel the current Iraqi President is toothless and has no power whatsoever, as Ive said before, Iraqi is under the wing of the US Federal government.
Until an hour and a half after the last US Soldier leaves. Then all hell is gonna break loose.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6886

splixx wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

splixx wrote:

Yesterday 18:46:46 -1 George W. Bush in surprise visit to Baghdad Why would you say such a horrible thing? 

Because it would do the world a favor... Done now you know.
OMG HOW COULD U?

haha
I know I am such a terrible evil person... SORRY!

You two need some serious help. You post that the president being killed would be a good thing and then bitch about why someone gave you that kind of karma. This forum doesn't need your crap.
splixx
ChupaCABRA
+53|6979|Omaha, Nebraska

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

splixx wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

OMG HOW COULD U?

haha
I know I am such a terrible evil person... SORRY!

You two need some serious help. You post that the president being killed would be a good thing and then bitch about why someone gave you that kind of karma. This forum doesn't need your crap.
A good thing indeed. The only person that needs help is Bush himself. I apologize if you can't handle someone else's opinion...

I think people take things a bit to serious these days...

Last edited by splixx (2006-06-14 09:06:48)

Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6886

splixx wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

splixx wrote:


I know I am such a terrible evil person... SORRY!

You two need some serious help. You post that the president being killed would be a good thing and then bitch about why someone gave you that kind of karma. This forum doesn't need your crap.
A good thing indeed. The only person that needs help is Bush himself. I apologize if you can't handle someone else's opinion...

I think people take things a bit to serious these days...
Saying it's ok to assassinate my president is never a funny joke. Seriously leave the debate and serious talk forum now if you cannot realize what you are saying is wrong.

P.S. I don't give a shit whether you negative me or not. My karma is only a reflection of the intelligence of the BF2S community as a whole. But next time, give a more logical reason that "grow up seriously". child please...
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6893

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

splixx wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:


You two need some serious help. You post that the president being killed would be a good thing and then bitch about why someone gave you that kind of karma. This forum doesn't need your crap.
A good thing indeed. The only person that needs help is Bush himself. I apologize if you can't handle someone else's opinion...

I think people take things a bit to serious these days...
Saying it's ok to assassinate my president is never a funny joke. Seriously leave the debate and serious talk forum now if you cannot realize what you are saying is wrong.

P.S. I don't give a shit whether you negative me or not. My karma is only a reflection of the intelligence of the BF2S community as a whole. But next time, give a more logical reason that "grow up seriously". child please...
Don't think anyone said it was "ok" to assassinate him... but anyway screw assassination, kangaroo court followed by Texas style execution would be more appropriate for Bush.  They do still execute the mentally retarded in Texas, right?
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6800
As a patriotic American I can only hope that our actions in the Middle East turn out for the best for everyone involved. As for Bush, he has done a horrible job selling our plans to America and the world. Could someone else have done a better job? Who knows? However, IMO, it would be un-American to just blindly support Bush or any president for that matter. As far as Bush's visit to Iraq, total campaign maneuver for the upcoming elections.

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