BF2S Forums Do you think that US Soldiers like killing people, seriously?

Cougar wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

This started in the Haditha thread, where some individuals wanted to excuse what happened there.

Oh well, if they want to kill people that's they're prerogative. I really can't do too much if the government sanctions it. They all get brainwashed anyway.

Guess I'll just leave.

It can't excused because it hasn't been proven.  It can't be condemned because it hasn't been proven.  It's all speculation and assumption at this point and until you people get that through your thick skulls arguments like this will continue without end here.  It's pointless.  Shut up about it already.

[pWa]Recon wrote:

ass hat... if you don't have anthing constructive to say..... stfu...

~Recon

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Killing Iraqis does nothing for my freedom. Sorry.

Then you are pretty close minded.  We don't just fight for your freedoms. We fight so that you, your family and friends can be safe and out of harms way.  And Ikarti it is your typical attitude that us soldiers despise.  You have no idea of what goes on in combat much less all the reasons we are there.  That man was breaking UN sanctions on weapons, massacring his own people, spending all his money on crap other than for his people. He gave aid to foreign terrorists and helped them to gain power.  Now here is where the safety part comes in because if you have any idea what VX nerve gas or even a biological weapon release as a small amount can do to a population you might think differently.  VX nerve gases fatal dose is at 250 microns. A drop from a tear dropper is 500 microns.  Just takes that much of it to kill several people.  Released in a major city it could kill 100's of thousands of people.  And trust me soldier's see alot more than the media ever shows. Media promotes their agenda and their political views. Us as soldier's seem to be nothing more than stories to them. 

And for you to be thinking that we are killing nothing but Iraqi's is absurd. Most of the terrorists over there are fighting a "Holy War" and are from countries other than Iraq.  So its not just the Iraqi's getting killed.  Most of their casualties have come from suicide bombings of the terrorists. So if you dont know what it is like to be shot at, watch a friend get shot, and hear about or watch your buddies die. Then shut up. We don't enjoy killing by any means but it is either us or them.  And most of us choose them.  Id like to see what kind of respect you have when you see 16 polished caskets go by you.  Its a silence of heartache and respect that is impossible to ever experience somewhere else.

KingLou wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Uneducated? I thought you guys had those bases covered. And i suppose everyone that doesn't agree with you is just a child. How ironically immature.

There is a difference between disagreeing with someone, and disagreeing childishly (in which case, yes, you're a child).

You sound like a damn 14 year old girl that disagrees with everything her parents say just because she can, and she thinks it makes her righteous, bold, misunderstood, and victimized in that delusional teen angst crabby little snatch world that she's created for herself.  She has her own set of beliefs based around her 14 whole years of world experience, zero of which can be considered "real world" experience.  She doesn't know why she thinks or believes or says the things she thinks/believes/says.  They aren't based in any sort of concrete fact, or anything even resembling a fact for that matter.  Maybe she heard it in some popular song, read it in some fucking online blog, or simply pulled it out of her all-knowing 14 year old ass.....but if called on to defend it, she will do so vehemently and to the utter death with absolutely no substantiation that could pass any modern standard of rational thought or logic anywhere on earth ever.   She will laugh in the face of the "experience" that her parents have, as if that could teach them ANYTHING.  THEY are such IDIOTS.  She has no comprehension of the things her parents do, so they must be wrong.....completelly, totally, and always, because her underdeveloped, hormone modulated brain tissue can't put together the complex puzzle of the tough shit that her parents must do in order to properly raise her dumb,  obnoxious ass in the face of her pointless, yet neverending resistance to being parented at all.

You sir, are indeed a 14 year old girl.  I kindly request that you stuff a tampon in that vagina of a mouth of yours, because your e-period is making the net reek of fish heads and rotten mayo.   

KiL

Ikarti wrote:

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Killing Iraqis does nothing for my freedom. Sorry.

Then you are pretty close minded.  We don't just fight for your freedoms. We fight so that you, your family and friends can be safe and out of harms way.  And Ikarti it is your typical attitude that us soldiers despise.  You have no idea of what goes on in combat much less all the reasons we are there.  That man was breaking UN sanctions on weapons, massacring his own people, spending all his money on crap other than for his people. He gave aid to foreign terrorists and helped them to gain power.  Now here is where the safety part comes in because if you have any idea what VX nerve gas or even a biological weapon release as a small amount can do to a population you might think differently.  VX nerve gases fatal dose is at 250 microns. A drop from a tear dropper is 500 microns.  Just takes that much of it to kill several people.  Released in a major city it could kill 100's of thousands of people.  And trust me soldier's see alot more than the media ever shows. Media promotes their agenda and their political views. Us as soldier's seem to be nothing more than stories to them. 

And for you to be thinking that we are killing nothing but Iraqi's is absurd. Most of the terrorists over there are fighting a "Holy War" and are from countries other than Iraq.  So its not just the Iraqi's getting killed.  Most of their casualties have come from suicide bombings of the terrorists. So if you dont know what it is like to be shot at, watch a friend get shot, and hear about or watch your buddies die. Then shut up. We don't enjoy killing by any means but it is either us or them.  And most of us choose them.  Id like to see what kind of respect you have when you see 16 polished caskets go by you.  Its a silence of heartache and respect that is impossible to ever experience somewhere else.

Not to mention he was sitting on oil and didn't have any VX. I know what VX does, and if Mr. Saddam didn't have any VX, or Sarin, or what have you, then what threat did he pose?

40,000 civilian casualities is pretty high to be claiming you're killing other things that Iraqis. I know that combatants from other countries have flooded in, and I know there's sectarian violence as well, but I also know that the military really doesn't give a damn either.

And as for the pity story about being shot at and all that...no one forced you to sign up for it. It's a job like any other. It pays the bills, I understand. But you never hear firefighters get bitter about fighting fires, do you?

joker3327 wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

Then you are pretty close minded.  We don't just fight for your freedoms. We fight so that you, your family and friends can be safe and out of harms way.  And Ikarti it is your typical attitude that us soldiers despise.  You have no idea of what goes on in combat much less all the reasons we are there.  That man was breaking UN sanctions on weapons, massacring his own people, spending all his money on crap other than for his people. He gave aid to foreign terrorists and helped them to gain power.  Now here is where the safety part comes in because if you have any idea what VX nerve gas or even a biological weapon release as a small amount can do to a population you might think differently.  VX nerve gases fatal dose is at 250 microns. A drop from a tear dropper is 500 microns.  Just takes that much of it to kill several people.  Released in a major city it could kill 100's of thousands of people.  And trust me soldier's see alot more than the media ever shows. Media promotes their agenda and their political views. Us as soldier's seem to be nothing more than stories to them. 

And for you to be thinking that we are killing nothing but Iraqi's is absurd. Most of the terrorists over there are fighting a "Holy War" and are from countries other than Iraq.  So its not just the Iraqi's getting killed.  Most of their casualties have come from suicide bombings of the terrorists. So if you dont know what it is like to be shot at, watch a friend get shot, and hear about or watch your buddies die. Then shut up. We don't enjoy killing by any means but it is either us or them.  And most of us choose them.  Id like to see what kind of respect you have when you see 16 polished caskets go by you.  Its a silence of heartache and respect that is impossible to ever experience somewhere else.

Not to mention he was sitting on oil and didn't have any VX. I know what VX does, and if Mr. Saddam didn't have any VX, or Sarin, or what have you, then what threat did he pose?

40,000 civilian casualities is pretty high to be claiming you're killing other things that Iraqis. I know that combatants from other countries have flooded in, and I know there's sectarian violence as well, but I also know that the military really doesn't give a damn either.

And as for the pity story about being shot at and all that...no one forced you to sign up for it. It's a job like any other. It pays the bills, I understand. But you never hear firefighters get bitter about fighting fires, do you?

No VX or Sarin......hmmmm ask the Kurds he used it on..........oh you cant he wiped em all out....the reason you can spout your shit in here is because solders like us secure your freedom of speech....Im not trying to shut you up...just think before you open your mouth