BF2S Forums Unusual complaint...

now, n00blet, I could get used to that.

I do have a bad habit of putting commas, where they shouldn't be,

dsb wrote:

Bubkin wrote:

Amen chuy.

I'm tired of posts like this complaining about the "jargon". It comes with the territory, it's part of the culture.

Now that being said, I do hate the posts from people who really can't spell and write like my 3rd-grade niece.

Does not knowing that when quotes end a sentence the ending punctuation should be inside the quotes count as writing like your 3rd-grade niece?

Example:
...about the "jargon".  = incorrect
...about the "jargon."  = correct

Just curious.

Actually, I believe you are incorrect.  If he were quoting a sentence (She said, "I went to the store." ) the quote would go after the period.  When quoting a single word ("Jargon") the end-quote would go before the period.

Edit:
Looks like it is done both ways.  From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark:

In American English, commas and periods always go inside the quotation marks, no matter the circumstance:

    He is called “HAL.”
    Also called “plain quotes,” they are teardrops.

However, due the influence of computer science as explained above (see BNF rules for describing formal languages), the following is sometimes seen:

    He is called “HAL”.
    Also called “plain quotes”, they are teardrops.

Last edited by atlvolunteer (2005-11-07 11:11:24)

To me, writing is all about communication. Bitching about grammar and punctuation and even spelling to some degree just reveals your puckered asshole to the crowd who will be more than willing to open it up a little with a steel toe boot and a hard knob. As long as you can read what someone writes--ONCE--and understand exactly what they're talking about, without pausing so that you can stop to try and figure out WTF something means, or pausing because there's way too much punctuation (or not enough), then you shouldn't be bitching.

Everyone on the internet knows what lol, brb, wtf, and similar spouts of internet jargon means. Pwn is a bit gayer, and while I don't use it, I don't bitch about it too much. Cyber ebonics is a good way to put it, honestly, and much like ghetto talk, there are a lot of people who just hate that shit. I mean, yes, you've come to expect it on the internet on gaming forums and in games themselves, or in AOL chat rooms and other bullshit, but not everyone indulges and starts using those terms. A lot of people, black and white, bitch about ghetto talk. "Word up, Gee! Yo, lets go chill at the crib. Can I ax you a question?" Yes, obviously I'm a white guy who grew up in a middle-class neighborhood, let's ignore that. Some people hate it when others talk in ebonics. Others just kind of accept it. Regardless, there are certain places you can go and you'll expect to hear that kind of slang, but just because you expect it doesn't mean it isn't an annoyance. I mean, when you go to Subway you expect there to be a middle eastern guy fucking up your order because he barely understands english, but just because you expect it that doesn't mean you're not gonna bitch about it when you bite into your spicy ass tuna sandwich. It's all about communication.

If you understand someone easily, without having to read/listen extra carefully--if you can just read what they write at a glance and know what they're talking about, then bitching about it makes you an anus. I myself use conversational grammar and idiomatic spellings, but nothing aggrivates me more than when I see half a page worth of bullshit from some monkey fucker who must be typing with his cock. You know the type, it's like 40 lines, but all one paragraph. It's all bullshit "ur dum ppl kewl wit us n stuff b cuz i no wut is good abot this game liek u no wut i mean" and it just goes on and on and on, and not only do you feel stupider (ha, yes, intentional dickweed) for reading it, but you also come to the conclusion that the assbag who wrote it didn't actually say much of anything at all.

The original poster is right, it's all about how you want to present yourself. If you're the type who needs every last word to be perfect, right down to whether or not the period goes inside or outside the quotation marks (and for the record, it's not always inside, for instance, if you have a question about a quote, and your sentence ends with the quote you don't put the question mark inside the quotation marks, dipshits), then you've got one hell of a puckered asshole, and practically everyone's a fuckin' idiot to you, but at least when I read your shit I'll understand it. On the other hand, if you're that page and a half without spaces guy I was describing before, you're gonna look like a fuckin' moron to everyone who can type even marginally better than you, most of your posts will be skipped because you're a complete dumbass, but in the end, you and all the dipshits who look like you and write like you are gonna think we're all stupid asses anyway, simply for bitching about not being able to understand you.

It really isn't going to go away though, nor should it. But that's my personal philosophy; as long as you can understand the person, that's good enough.

Bubkin wrote:

It's because 99% of us went to public school. Be greatful we can communicate at all.

I believe it is grateful,

Bubkin wrote:

It's because 99% of us went to public school. Be greatful we can communicate at all.

wut dus "communicate" meen?

Last edited by atlvolunteer (2005-11-07 11:18:04)

Its ok, I went to public school to,

Last edited by elbowdeeplove (2005-11-07 11:21:18)

Tyshalle83 wrote:

To me, writing is all about communication. Bitching about grammar and punctuation and even spelling to some degree just reveals your puckered asshole to the crowd who will be more than willing to open it up a little with a steel toe boot and a hard knob. As long as you can read what someone writes--ONCE--and understand exactly what they're talking about, without pausing so that you can stop to try and figure out WTF something means, or pausing because there's way too much punctuation (or not enough), then you shouldn't be bitching.

Everyone on the internet knows what lol, brb, wtf, and similar spouts of internet jargon means. Pwn is a bit gayer, and while I don't use it, I don't bitch about it too much. Cyber ebonics is a good way to put it, honestly, and much like ghetto talk, there are a lot of people who just hate that shit. I mean, yes, you've come to expect it on the internet on gaming forums and in games themselves, or in AOL chat rooms and other bullshit, but not everyone indulges and starts using those terms. A lot of people, black and white, bitch about ghetto talk. "Word up, Gee! Yo, lets go chill at the crib. Can I ax you a question?" Yes, obviously I'm a white guy who grew up in a middle-class neighborhood, let's ignore that. Some people hate it when others talk in ebonics. Others just kind of accept it. Regardless, there are certain places you can go and you'll expect to hear that kind of slang, but just because you expect it doesn't mean it isn't an annoyance. I mean, when you go to Subway you expect there to be a middle eastern guy fucking up your order because he barely understands english, but just because you expect it that doesn't mean you're not gonna bitch about it when you bite into your spicy ass tuna sandwich. It's all about communication.

If you understand someone easily, without having to read/listen extra carefully--if you can just read what they write at a glance and know what they're talking about, then bitching about it makes you an anus. I myself use conversational grammar and idiomatic spellings, but nothing aggrivates me more than when I see half a page worth of bullshit from some monkey fucker who must be typing with his cock. You know the type, it's like 40 lines, but all one paragraph. It's all bullshit "ur dum ppl kewl wit us n stuff b cuz i no wut is good abot this game liek u no wut i mean" and it just goes on and on and on, and not only do you feel stupider (ha, yes, intentional dickweed) for reading it, but you also come to the conclusion that the assbag who wrote it didn't actually say much of anything at all.

The original poster is right, it's all about how you want to present yourself. If you're the type who needs every last word to be perfect, right down to whether or not the period goes inside or outside the quotation marks (and for the record, it's not always inside, for instance, if you have a question about a quote, and your sentence ends with the quote you don't put the question mark inside the quotation marks, dipshits), then you've got one hell of a puckered asshole, and practically everyone's a fuckin' idiot to you, but at least when I read your shit I'll understand it. On the other hand, if you're that page and a half without spaces guy I was describing before, you're gonna look like a fuckin' moron to everyone who can type even marginally better than you, most of your posts will be skipped because you're a complete dumbass, but in the end, you and all the dipshits who look like you and write like you are gonna think we're all stupid asses anyway, simply for bitching about not being able to understand you.

It really isn't going to go away though, nor should it. But that's my personal philosophy; as long as you can understand the person, that's good enough.

"4 out of 5 stars. I laughed, I cried. A fabulous entertainment wrought with mystery, adventure, and rapier-sharp wit. Mr. Tyshalle83 kept me reading..." -Bubkin, Author of Grammar, Public Schooling, Game Forums, and YOU!

Tyshalle83 wrote:

a lot

What if I can't understand you because my attention span didn't last as long as the novel you wrote to explain your philosophy?  Are you at fault for being too wordy?  Or is it me and my short-ass attention span?

Last edited by dsb (2005-11-07 11:46:19)

I think the word "Cornhole" should be used more in BF2.

Example: You stole my chopper you cornhole!.

Last edited by BF2dude (2005-11-07 11:55:13)

lol kumquat.

Is that some sort of fruite ?

dsb - Nobody can fault you for thinking I'm long winded. And for those of you with the talent to say a hell of a lot in a few words, I applaud you. I say a hell of a lot in a lot of words. There's a lot of people who don't say much in either meaning or word count, and likewise there's a lot of people who go on and on and on without ever really getting to the point. At least with me you can see exactly what you get.

BF2dude wrote:

lol kumquat.
Is that some sort of fruite ?

yes: http://starchefs.com/features/kumquats/html/index.shtml

Sgt.Gh0st wrote:

*gimma a break im Dutch*

Hehe... I know.

Tyshalle83 wrote:

dsb - Nobody can fault you for thinking I'm long winded. And for those of you with the talent to say a hell of a lot in a few words, I applaud you. I say a hell of a lot in a lot of words. There's a lot of people who don't say much in either meaning or word count, and likewise there's a lot of people who go on and on and on without ever really getting to the point. At least with me you can see exactly what you get.

Uhm, now, what was your point exactly?
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