BF2S Forums Secularists Will be the End of Morality

j5f5ff wrote:

One could also argue that an athiest would be more respectful of others because without the promise of forgivness and an afterlife, life becomes more valuable.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

j5f5ff wrote:

One could also argue that an athiest would be more respectful of others because without the promise of forgivness and an afterlife, life becomes more valuable.

Reincarnation/afterlife and religion are not the same thing.  Most (if not all) religions believe in some sort of afterlife, but one can believe in reincarnation but not a higher power.

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-06-08 17:55:46)

Marconius wrote:

Alright... *cracks knuckles*

1.  Atheism promotes NOTHING.  It in itself is a philosophic belief that there is no higher power/god.  That is it.  There is no dogma, there are no rituals, etc.  Believing that it is promoting something other than this to support your case is futile.  Atheism does not tell people how to live their lives, therefore does not promote homosexuality, degrade human unity, or anything that you personally feel is perverse.

2.  As was said before, Atheism does Not equal Anarchism.  Lack of morality leads to Anarchism; believing that there is no higher power doesn't constrain you from recognizing what is generally regarded as Right and Wrong.  You don't need your Rights and Wrongs dictated to you, you just learn through social experiment and adaptation.  It's called Reason.

3.  Human unity falls under several categories and cannot be lumped up into religion alone.  A lack of religion would allow humans to unify under the very idea that they are indeed Human.  Western Religion seems to inspire more division than unity, with constant violence being carried out in any of "god's" many names.  Or just look at how sectarian they have all become as more and more followers branch off with their own forms of Reason mixed with their teachings.  Christianity alone as over 700 separate sects, each believing in something different.  Religion is almost turning into a xeno-divide; lack of it would allow humans to unify much easier, without fear of being persecuted or sparking millenia of wars and hatred due to group differences in philosophical opinion.

It is possible to be Good without god, you just need to back away from the religions that slander that form of thinking in order to keep people under their control.  Freethought will unite people, reason will be the oil in the gears of society.

aipotwckma wrote:

The two major religions[Catholicism/Christianity & Islam] in the world at least have a sense of humanity and a sense of unity. Athiesm and Secularism feel no shame in promoting inhuman beliefs, e.g. homosexuality for one. I am not going to bash and say that everyone will go to hell if they are an athiest. I am only stating that if everyone in the world were athiest, the human race would be peaceful, yet incredibly immoral. Think of it balancing out. When there are two religions, their people would probably not like the other, starting wars or some sort of hatred.[The Crusades, for example] However, the two religions beliefs promote a sense of morality compared to athiesm. On the other side, if everyone were athiest, there would be no religious beliefs of any kind, therefore creating a very small sense of unity[if not, none at all] and morality of anyones choosing.[Which can be bad, in many cases..] However, athiesm may create a sense of peace, excluding politics.

This is just my view. Discuss if you like.