BF2S Forums Should America close bases and stop aid to EU?

hey shithead the context was after hitler attacked russia. the nonagression pact was the precursor to the joint attack on poland and was before hitler attacked russia. this dumbasses contention is that well after hitler attacked russia and well into the war stalin considered allying with germany and then attacking the allies.. which is fuckin misguided retarded babble.

as to the original post its a fact that the united states gives aid to countries in the EU althought every america hating euro refuses to acknowledge this fact.

afrocullions wrote:

hey shithead the context was after hitler attacked russia. the nonagression pact was the precursor to the joint attack on poland and was before hitler attacked russia. this dumbasses contention is that well after hitler attacked russia and well into the war stalin considered allying with germany and then attacking the allies.. which is fuckin misguided retarded babble.

as to the original post its a fact that the united states gives aid to countries in the EU althought every america hating euro refuses to acknowledge this fact.

Afrocullions - you must be brainwashed or something. WHY WOULD USA AID A COMPARABLE ECONOMIC POWER? THAT WOULD BE LIKE SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT BY GIVING THEM AN ADVANTAGE! Jeez. I can't believe you sometimes. To reiterate the Republic of Ireland receives no aid. Since nearly all EU countries GIVE aid why would we need to RECEIVE any. Fuckin hell, it's just futile trying to get through to you.

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Im sorry afrocullions but you're not too popular in this thread. Mainly cause everything you spit out is wrong. Just like Sorcerer said, Russia was attacked in 1941, not 1939. Also, Stalin wanted D-day so the allies could build up a new front in the west, so hitler would have to move his soldiers from the eastern front to the western front, thus giving the russians fewer germans to fight. The turning point of the war was in 1943, when the russians could start to counterattack the germans on a large scale. Sure, the germans were beaten at moscow, but that didn't halt them. Also the battle at El-Alamein is considered one of the turning points of the war. The battle at El-alamein resultet in the fact that Europe could be attacked from the south. So sure, go ahead an give us your knowledge Afrocullions, but i'll have to say that i haven't seen one statement from you that could be considered correct. And what are your grades in history?

fucking exactly! your right, look afro ive got a quote for you from a book about D-day and in case you dont trust it it's written by an american and the wall street journal wrote the following about this book, "Definitive... His evience is overwhelming". Now to the quote...

"Between August 1939 and June 1942 the Nazis and Soviet empires had been partners, joined together in an alliance based on a division of Eastern Europer between them. To return to that situation Hitler had to persuade Stalin that the Wehrmacht was still capable of inflicting unacceptable casualties on the Red Army. To do that, Hitler needed more fighting men and machines. To get them, he had to strip his Western Front. To do that, he had to hurl the forthcoming invasion back into the sea or postone it long enough that Russia was out of the war."

Also for you lack of knowledge about the world and other teaching systems, A2 is the 18 year old year the one before im off to Uni, which i doubt your gunna make.

Edit -  Didnt finish explaining, which you probably need, if hitler managed to make Russia continue to take huge fatalities they would have to pull back, its just like BF2 you might be attacking but that sure as hell doesnt mean you have as many tickets. The further the germans move back to germany the shorter their supply lines and the longer the russian supply lines. This would mean the russian attack would stall but hitler still needed the men to completly halt the attack. This would have forced stalin to enter a treaty or pact with germany, this would then surely if not slowly due to lack of trust lead to an alliance.

Now either shut up or put up some books that i can read that prove your "theory". Ive offered you about 7 books lets see if you can meet that.

Last edited by Vilham (2006-05-31 05:31:59)

i think america should stop throwing its food away, that way the rest of the world wouldnt have to starve so you fat fuckers can have eat all you can buffets.

Vilham wrote:

DazBurt wrote:

afrocullions wrote:

churchill was over here massaging roosevelts ballsack to save his ass.. yeah we did youre welcome

Do not insult Winston Chirchill or you can suck the sweat off of my balls Dickhead

Dont worry he doesnt realise that Roosevelt was licking Stalin the COMMY's balls. Btw you know roosevelt wasnt even supported by his own military and the reason the americans lost so many men in WWII was because it was their first real war thus their commanders were unexperienced.

Dont be a dumbass.  We were in WW1 also and I would say that is were we were inexperienced.
Dont insult Either Roosevelt or Churchill because without these two GREAT men we all would be speaking German or Japanese.

Do you even know who our commanders or Generals were as we call them?

Maybe the reason we lost so many troops in WW2 is bacause we were fighting the war on two fronts.  If you do a little research you will find that the Japanese were much more dangerous of an enemy than the Germans since they didn't believe in surrender and they were the Original Suicide Bombers.

Vilham wrote:

JG1567JG wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Dont worry he doesnt realise that Roosevelt was licking Stalin the COMMY's balls. Btw you know roosevelt wasnt even supported by his own military and the reason the americans lost so many men in WWII was because it was their first real war thus their commanders were unexperienced.

Dont be a dumbass.  We were in WW1 also and I would say that is were we were inexperienced.
Dont insult Either Roosevelt or Churchill because without these two GREAT men we all would be speaking German or Japanese.

Do you even know who our commanders or Generals were as we call them?

Maybe the reason we lost so many troops in WW2 is bacause we were fighting the war on two fronts.  If you do a little research you will find that the Japanese were much more dangerous of an enemy than the Germans since they didn't believe in surrender and they were the Original Suicide Bombers.

i wasnt insulting roosevelt he did a good job, but that knob was claiming the churchill was "massaging roosevelts ballsack to save his ass.. " when at the same time roosevelt was doing all that he could to keep the 3 way alliance together ie "massaging stalins ballsack to save his ass.." ofcourse im not going to insult Churchill he was the man who saved the English from germany.

Here three American generals in WWII of the top of my head:

Eisenhower
Ike
Huebner
o and Roosevelt Jr

I just wanted to say what great men these two were and nobody should put either one down.
without either one the war would have been much different.

I think Eisenhower and Ike were the same. And no offence but you forgot the one Bad Ass in Patton.
Patton was one of the reasons that D-Day was able to happen in that he was nowhere near the invasion force and Hitler thought for sure that it would be Patton's 3rd army that did the invading. Thank God it wasn't for my grandfather was under Patton at  about the time of D-Day.

Edit--->Oh ya my post was ment for the dumbass that insulted Churchill probably more than it was you

Sorry another Edit--->An Interesting story on how the Japanese treated our troops in the Pacific Front was the "Batan Death March".  The Japanese in no way followed the Geneva Convention since they were not part of it.  No offence to the Japanese since I know alot of things have changed since then.

Last edited by JG1567JG (2006-05-31 09:24:17)

Hey afrocullions since I used t drive a Mitsibishi Eclipse does that make me want to be Japanese?


Shit Im typing on a Sony Computer right now I might as well move.

Last edited by JG1567JG (2006-05-31 09:53:30)

products and culture are two different things dumbfuck

watch our movies be infatuated our celebrities litsen to our music etc etc then say you hate americans that makes you a fuckin eggplant

Vilham wrote:

Between August 1939 and June 1942 the Nazis and Soviet empires had been partners

really operation barbosa june 1941 ? thats what you cant seem to comprehend they never trusted each other it was allways a shaky partnership of convienince and hitler mistrusted him so much that he wexpected him to attack germany and did a preeemptive attack. but hey you still believe germany was gona ally with russia and destroy the world so who gives a fuck what you think about anything. ive allready done 2 years of college little boy so good try on that.

the gdp of the entire eu is about half that of the us while being twice the population... not too competitive. i said over and over we contribute to countries IN the EU not the entire EU. prolly the majority to former yugoslav states and baltic states/east europe.

and revolutionary war 1812 civil war spanish american war ww1 us has more modern battle experience than any other country. as to losses united states has the fewest causulties to kills compared to any country during ww2 .. maybe as a result of our experiene andd good planning. go look up west point thats one place where we make the superior stratagists for the past 200 years.



http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/pdf/EU_vs_USA_English.pdf

afrocullions wrote:

products and culture are two different things dumbfuck

watch our movies be infatuated our celebrities litsen to our music etc etc then say you hate americans that makes you a fuckin eggplant

Vilham wrote:

Between August 1939 and June 1942 the Nazis and Soviet empires had been partners

really operation barbosa june 1941 ? thats what you cant seem to comprehend they never trusted each other it was allways a shaky partnership of convienince and hitler mistrusted him so much that he wexpected him to attack germany and did a preeemptive attack. but hey you still believe germany was gona ally with russia and destroy the world so who gives a fuck what you think about anything. ive allready done 2 years of college little boy so good try on that.

the gdp of the entire eu is about half that of the us while being twice the population... not too competitive. i said over and over we contribute to countries IN the EU not the entire EU. prolly the majority to former yugoslav states and baltic states/east europe.

and revolutionary war 1812 civil war spanish american war ww1 us has more modern battle experience than any other country. as to losses united states has the fewest causulties to kills compared to any country during ww2 .. maybe as a result of our experiene andd good planning. go look up west point thats one place where we make the superior stratagists for the past 200 years.



http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/pdf/EU_vs_USA_English.pdf

lol you have yet to even put up any evidence retard and dont call me boy as im your superior in age. You realy do have a lack of imagination, true it is a theory that without D-day hitler would have won the war and its backed up by all good historians. NOW GO READ THOSE BOOKS, thats if you can read, which im beginning to doubt, you have one of those text to sound translators dont u?

lol good planning you mean blowing everything up and fucking up eg american controlled parts of Iraq.

btw that planning proved to be shit... vietnam anyone?

Last edited by Vilham (2006-05-31 15:27:52)

What is considered Modern battle experience?  Think before you answer that one.

Yes, it is true we like blowing stuff up.  We have the best weapons out there.  We work best at wars, not occupation and control.  Take the first gulf war.  I will agree with that.  And please, don't compare this to Vietnam.  That was a politically run war in a jungle.  The only way that this can be compared is the style of enemy.

to stay on topic the US cant close the bases they have in germany since they need em as forward operating bases for the wars in Iraq and afghanistan.
And aid from the us,,, do the EU members get any?
To my knowlidge the USA is in debt with the UN they have failed to pay ther contribution for a long time.

I realy Hate the US vs Euro talk,, we should all be much more worried about China....
They are spamming our markets with cheap ass products, so our local production factories cant compete and have to close down.
The eu allready has a textile ban on chinese export.

But hey its a good time to make short term big money in China.... Ill be back there in 2 weeks and make the best out of it for as long as it last...........

heartless capitalist tyrant with imperial ambitions ? rofl looks like you been watching too many conspircay thoery shows..

way to throw african americans into some poor homeless lot ...at least you dont hide your racism.

and yes faggot the us does provide aid to those countries