Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

that in-itself is a 14-year-old reddit user's take.

in fact, that's a bit harsh to reddit users. they've all moved on from the dawkins-harris type of 'hurr durr religion' takes.

is a 3000-year-old bronze age myth more or less credible than a myth invented in the 19th century like 'white australia' or 'manifest destiny'?

whether nationalism has an ancient scriptural provenance or is a hodge-podge of volkisch bavarian kitsch, gussied up by amphetamine-addled propagandists, isn't really that important. basically every modern nation state has an origin myth or 'tradition' that's largely an historiographical fiction.
These days people are msoty rational about this and aren't trying to live their lives or reshape the world according to some 'belief' which has dribbled down over exactly 3,000, not more or less, years.
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uziq
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i dunno man, somehow i feel like pernicious nation-state ideology, fabricated in the 19th century, isn't quite done with History yet.

two 'godless' world wars is pretty bad enough.
Dilbert_X
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Of course we're not done, this will go on forever, but don't tell me a single 3,000 year old ideology is the right one and everyone else must die.
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zionism is about as old as an ideology as any other chauvinistic nation-state-based ideology out of europe.

manifest destiny, white australia, lebensraum -- all these have way more in common with zionism's DNA than rabbinical traditions and the torah. in fact, it's pretty much a 50/50 split amongst orthodox sects who ARE very invested in jewish traditions as to whether israel and zionism should even be recognised. the jews that care most about all the 3000-year-old stuff are ironically the ones most likely to criticize israel – on theological grounds! the jews who are crazy ethnostate fascists are all ... dun dun dun ... second or third generation transplants from fucking american or european nation states and directly motivated by european political history, not bronze age myths.

i do believe that half of the nutjobs helping bibi cling to power in israel today are motivated by all that 'it was promised to us' stuff, but they're basically the jewish version of MAGA and shouldn't be confused with the israeli state, or even the right-wing aspect of it, in toto. for most of the 20th century even the aggressively zionist jews understood the project in terms that were basically an outgrowth of secular, modern nation-state politics, not ancient scripture. all that stuff was convenient window dressing for them, much like any 19th century nation with big ambitions started excavating their mythic pasts or folk traditions to buoy up their projects.

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uziq
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trump's spokeswoman leavitt to leave the white house.

didn't i say just recently that most of trump's base aren't hick racists but moderately wealthy used-car salesmen? leavitt's dad owned a used truck dealership ... and her mum an ice-cream stand? come on, america, be serious: that's not a fucking job. not even in vermont. being sent to an expensive liberal arts college in new england when your parents do those fucking jobs tells you just how privileged the average american really is on a global scale.

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people who own car dealerships in car-centric america can be decently well off. these guys are always doing stuff like remodeling, acquiring more lot space, owning stripmalls, storage, warehouse tracts, complaining about their liberal state making it hard for them to live.

car towns are like their own biome, from one horizon to the other in deals starting at $24,995.

https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/kerbeck-chevrolet.jpg
this, but for blocks and blocks until you hit the freeway, and then more on the other side beyond the overpass.

little fiefdoms spanning multiple counties.

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uziq
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a used-car salesman in the UK is only one fine gradation up the class scale from a tinker. and would not be sending their progeny to ampleforth college.

you colonials have desecrated everything. half of your problem is nobody knows their right place.

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unnamednewbie13
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trump signed a goodbye on truth social with his own name appended at the end, in trumpian fashion. he still thinks this shit's email.

there's a lot of uncharitable things i could say on the thematics of a republican woman leaving her prestigious trump posting to *checks notes* go be a 'conservative mom' with a husband twice her age.

in her capacity as press secretary, she was literally that gremlin creature from star wars, nestled in the sweaty folds of the trump administration, and backing up his every tasteless comment and insult.

uziq
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i mean, it's his own private social network. he can use it exactly the way he fucking wants, lol. twitter jack got to specify 140 characters and donald trump gets to post missives and sign his name in the end like the philosopher-king he imagines himself to be.
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Apparently she quit because she was left on the decoy plan to die after giving birth less than a few months ago
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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It says a lot about lickspittles like Anchor-Baby Rubio that they haven't quit.

Karoline Leavitt is the only one amongst them with a pair of balls - amazing.

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