Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,633|6293|Catherine Black
oh wow how did I not read that. must be nice to not live in a place that rusts cars to fuck.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
KEN-JENNINGS
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Finray wrote:

20 years on oem discs is fucking unreal. I've put 3 sets on my i20 in 50k miles. saving up for a 3.0 Z3, become slightly obsessed with them recently. Atlanta blue, please.

https://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/50205/007.jpg

Look at that behind.
3 sets of discs >? 50k miles? Wowwwww
SuperJail Warden
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Also, why are F-150's so expensive? MSRP on a base model of one of those is $29,000. Yikes.
4 and half years later the MSRP a new F-150 base model is $37,000.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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f150s have years you're supposed to buy and years you're supposed to avoid. i mean other mfgs too, but wtf is ford doing? it's supposed to be like the 'murica flagship.

https://rerev.com/articles/ford-f-150-years-to-avoid/
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I don't know how you even fuck up producing a car in the year 2025. We nailed the basics of how cars work over a century ago.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Its quite easy, you let fuckwits have a free run with their wacky ideas.
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unnamednewbie13
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the one thing cars no longer need are cigarette lighters.

fuck smoking. the biggest mutual rollings of eyes from fellow drivers at stop lights isn't at the guy with enough speakers to be classified as driving a sonic weapon. it's the dickhead hanging their cigarette out the window because they don't want to stink up the insides of their car or whatever. up goes everybody else's windows, and off go the fans. can be a 95F day, but nobody wants to breathe that shit.

how do you make a product designed for people to inhale smell more noxious than literal car exhaust? it's mind-boggling. it's a relief i don't live in an apartment next to a smoker. trashy, low-class habit.
unnamednewbie13
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i'm seeing a lot more EVs lately. is it weird that they sound more badass than a gaudy muscle car? like a starfighter pulling into the stall next to me. how quiet would roads be, i wonder, if all motorists had these?
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,633|6293|Catherine Black

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Finray wrote:

20 years on oem discs is fucking unreal. I've put 3 sets on my i20 in 50k miles. saving up for a 3.0 Z3, become slightly obsessed with them recently. Atlanta blue, please.

https://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/50205/007.jpg

Look at that behind.
3 sets of discs >? 50k miles? Wowwwww
aye that's what you'll get when you spend as little as possible on replacements then hammer them everywhere, they warp and need replaced. this latest set I sprung for a set of Bosch ones with nice pads so hoping they withstand a bit more punishment, but realistically the i20's probably had its last MOT.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,633|6293|Catherine Black

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

it's the dickhead hanging their cigarette out the window because they don't want to stink up the insides of their car or whatever.

how do you make a product designed for people to inhale smell more noxious than literal car exhaust? it's mind-boggling. it's a relief i don't live in an apartment next to a smoker. trashy, low-class habit.
you're stinking up the inside of your car either way, hanging your hand out the window is probably more to do with the fact it's 95f. and it smells worse because it doesn't have a complicated exhaust system with a catalytic converter attached to it.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
KEN-JENNINGS
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

the one thing cars no longer need are cigarette lighters.

fuck smoking. the biggest mutual rollings of eyes from fellow drivers at stop lights isn't at the guy with enough speakers to be classified as driving a sonic weapon. it's the dickhead hanging their cigarette out the window because they don't want to stink up the insides of their car or whatever. up goes everybody else's windows, and off go the fans. can be a 95F day, but nobody wants to breathe that shit.

how do you make a product designed for people to inhale smell more noxious than literal car exhaust? it's mind-boggling. it's a relief i don't live in an apartment next to a smoker. trashy, low-class habit.
New cars have ports for cigarette lighters but don't come with the actual lighter anymore.

When I quit smoking I used to be able to smell cigarette smoke from a car across the intersection.

I don't really mind if people smoke, but I always go crazy when I see someone smoking in their cars with the windows up. Disgusting on every level.
unnamednewbie13
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fair commentaries but:

@fin if it's hot and you need to crank the window down, put your cigarette out instead of hanging it outside. not everyone in traffic wants to smell it. also, i knew people who hang out their house/apartment windows to smoke so "their kids don't get it." they do the same in the car. i've got some bad news …

@ken maybe just don't smoke in your car.

infuriating stuff. you can go to the corner of a car lot to smoke and people will still smell your stench from the storefront. in line with a chain smoker near by and it's like standing in a chemical factory. blegh.
Dilbert_X
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

New cars have ports for cigarette lighters but don't come with the actual lighter anymore.

When I quit smoking I used to be able to smell cigarette smoke from a car across the intersection.

I don't really mind if people smoke, but I always go crazy when I see someone smoking in their cars with the windows up. Disgusting on every level.
Some time ago while living in a shitty area - which is to say Essex - some crackhead flagged me down like someone was dying and needed to be rushed to hospital.

"You got a light?"
"No, I don't smoke"
"Yeah you do, just press that in and wait"

Fucking crackheads.
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unnamednewbie13
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"sorry, it's broken."

i'm not going to reward a smoker after they lead with a question they already knew the answer to. it's like giving a guy some more rope to hang himself with, anyway.

having a bum run up to your window or try and home in on you from where they think you aren't looking isn't the greatest thing.

re:

fin wrote:

and it smells worse because it doesn't have a complicated exhaust system with a catalytic converter attached to it.
maybe smoker emissions masks should be required, with an annual test.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2025-09-02 08:32:42)

uziq
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maybe not related but i read somewhere recently that cigarette filters are pretty much the single greatest contributor to unrecyclable plastic waste on earth. and they don't even work. they never worked. it was a psy-op by marketing people in big tobacco in the '70s or '80s or whenever they introduced the things.

i'll take my clandestine rainforest coke tarpaulin with gasoline runoff any day!
unnamednewbie13
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saw a guy biking for his 'health' with a lit cigarette hanging out of his mouth. puff, puff, puff, like a steam train.

will probably flick it into the grass when done.
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

maybe not related but i read somewhere recently that cigarette filters are pretty much the single greatest contributor to unrecyclable plastic waste on earth. and they don't even work. they never worked. it was a psy-op by marketing people in big tobacco in the '70s or '80s or whenever they introduced the things.
Probably they were the single greatest contributor back when they were invented and about the only disposable plastic product.
Now there are many more orders of magnitude of plastic products in the waste stream.
Fuck Israel
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,834|6611|eXtreme to the maX

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

saw a guy biking for his 'health' with a lit cigarette hanging out of his mouth. puff, puff, puff, like a steam train.

will probably flick it into the grass when done.
Did I say I know someone who could be retired but works exclusively to fund his and his wife's smoking?
Insane.
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uziq
Member
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

maybe not related but i read somewhere recently that cigarette filters are pretty much the single greatest contributor to unrecyclable plastic waste on earth. and they don't even work. they never worked. it was a psy-op by marketing people in big tobacco in the '70s or '80s or whenever they introduced the things.
Probably they were the single greatest contributor back when they were invented and about the only disposable plastic product.
Now there are many more orders of magnitude of plastic products in the waste stream.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.8b01533

literally trillions of cigarette butts are discarded every single year. by volume they may not be the largest, but in terms of single items/objects, they are the most ubiquitous.

each single cigarette filter, made of cellulose acetate, breaks down into ~12,000 individual strands. that's without even thinking about all the toxic products which are (minimally and notionally) 'filtered' through them: nicotine, PAHs, heavy metals, etc.

Last edited by uziq (2025-09-03 05:46:03)

SuperJail Warden
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I noticed way more cigarette butts in Pennsylvania than New Jersey. Their smoking rate is 50% higher than ours.

There is something else I noticed about South Carolina and Pennsylvania, you know red states, that is interesting. Way more white women, especially skinny white women working service jobs.
https://www.eatthis.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/03/mcdonalds-receipt.jpg
Service jobs in NJ are overwhelmingly held by immigrants and minorities. We are a wealthier and more diverse state so white women tend to just not work those jobs here. Also, the white ladies in the red states tend to be thinner on average than the white women in NJ. Food insecurity in red states vs food abundance in our 'wealthy state.' The higher smoking rate probably keeps them skinny too.

It is just so unusual to go someplace and have your order taken by someone who can speak English well just outside of NYC. It makes me wonder if there is a difference in perception among blue and red state people regarding service jobs.

The Trump McDonald's stunt probably went further than people realize.
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_nbcnews-fp-1024-512,f_auto,q_auto:best/mpx/2704722219/2024_10/trumpmcdonalds-u3w6fn.jpg
People in my area write off those jobs as marginal while many Trump voters may see them as stable employment and the place they pick up their girlfriends when their shift is over.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/man-waiting-parking-lot-full-length-portrait-male-delivery-worker-standing-van-using-smartphone-copy-space-225380281.jpg
Huge difference in perception and we only live about an hour drive from each other.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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the right-wing culture warriors on musk's X consider it a point of national pride when downtrodden service workers are 'natives'. they use it as a helpful index of how 'overrun' a country has become.

japan since Abe has begun to import lots of third-worlders to work in their very public and iconic service roles, as in convenience stores and 7-11s and such. the right-wing culture warriors really don't like that. they want to go to japan and live out their anime fantasies, not be greeted by an indian selling them their conbini snacks.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Service jobs are the just the canary in the coal mine regarding these societies collapsing. I don't mean it will be Mad Max in Japan and elsewhere.
https://www.orbitdvd.com/cdn/shop/products/mad-max-movie-poster-1980-1020694695.jpg?v=1639159242
But having tons of Indians in the country changes things. It starts off with Indians at the 7/11. A generation later you have middle management Indians enforcing Japanese suicide work hours.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M_hlXMyYzwc/sddefault.jpg
But what I am really interested in is how healthcare is going to be handled in these wealthy societies. We don't have enough native white people to fill in all of the nursing and doctor jobs that we will need once the Gen X gets really old in the next 10 years. We also have huge structural barriers to education in healthcare. A lot of people don't want Filipino nurses but also don't want to put public funds towards cranking out nursing students in rural Pennsylvania.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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the care sector in the UK was staffed by overqualified europeans for 25 years. it's africans now. 'the boriswave'. post-brexit yookay for you.
unnamednewbie13
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475 people were detained by an ice raid at a georgia hyundai plant.

by detained, i mean most of them were also moved off-site by ice?

why did the atf need to be involved?

https://assets2.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2025/09/05/03ed8b79-d80c-436b-88b3-8b43adc00f73/thumbnail/620x350g2/3a5249deeed81fb5367ed08182455f1e/g0cv4fnwuaasfwc.jpg

still funny (and frequently pointed out) that after trumpers whined so hard about paper face masks during covid, trump's private army gets photo'd masked like they're on the way to rob a bank. how can they breathe!
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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The site is a massively expensive EV car factory. No doubt Musk had a role in its shut down. Billions of dollars down the drain.

I assume there will be little pity among a lot of MAGA for Hyundai's suffering. MAGA wants everyone to drive F-150 made by aging middle Americans.
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2024-ford-f-150-raptor-07-64ff719e60eb4.jpg?crop=1xw:0.9841562986003111xh;center,top&resize=1200:*
https://media.istockphoto.com/id/831540474/photo/senior-man-operating-machines-at-factory.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=peQE3JfIoKQvSnlL3Mt7GDsFVVsjU_q0dGQHRYZs_pM=
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