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2025-05-14 06:31:47

#1851

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,819|6490|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
just so ridiculously dumb and historically illiterate.

was apartheid south africa an example of 'how whites behave when they get their own colony'?

how about the history of prussia? wow, scary how whites act when they get 'military dominance!'

your ahistorical ranting, and your essentialising of 'the jews', is just the literal textbook definition of racism/discrimination. it is dumb, actually! you can criticise israel without needing to resort to these spurious, unhinged, irrational arguments!

Do I need to post the video of Netanyahu ranting about Amaleks again?
leaving aside the fact that people use rhetoric and metaphors when they talk, and granted that there are religious fundamentalists in this world (and a high concentration of them in present-day israel, certainly), you don't have to respond in kind to these arguments. frame them for what they are: a politico-religious ideology that needs to be debunked. ranting against the jews and using as a reason 'they killed jesus' is just ridiculous. you don't need to counter fundamentalism with fundamentalism, actually.

My point was jews killing jesus is why christians have a beef with jews, do try to keep up.

If the argument is 'well it happened 2,000 years ago, get over it' then the same argument can be applied to the jews being defeated and accepting exile from Palestine.

Fuck Israel

2025-05-14 06:42:46

#1852

uziq: Member; +521|3836

what christians have a beef with jews in those terms today? it's 2025. the last time christians based their view of jews on the 'killing of christ' was germany, 1943.

you ranting with these ye olde timey anti-semitic talking points is deeply weird. the most dominant current in christian theology today is evangelism, from america to brazil to korea – and they love the jews. you citing the supposed christian enmity against jews when ranting just paints you as a deluded kook. your average jew or christian in the UK today, for example, does not pay any fucking moment to this stuff. it's you.

mentioning all this crap in the context of the genocide in gaza is obscene. it's like justifying your feelings over the srebrenica massacre by citing the battle of kosovo from 1389 or something. what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic! an ethno-nationalist state doing military occupation and ethnic cleansing in 2025 can be protested and repudiated in perfectly secular, legal terms, without recourse to all this fucking anti-semitic nonsense.

2025-05-14 06:47:23

#1853

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7156|PNW

new sign to tap:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
this is the guy who's like "racism is 50 years done, get over it" talking about how actually it's not hard to get why someone harbors a 2000yo grudge conveniently leveled against jews (but not romans).

2025-05-14 06:54:40

#1854

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +657|4104

I only watched 4 episodes of the Last of Us. It was fine but I knew how the game went (that I never played) and couldn't sit through the show since I knew how it all ends.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYWI3ODJlMzktY2U5NC00ZjdlLWE1MGItNWQxZDk3NWNjN2RhXkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_.jpg

I think the narrative of the 2nd game and season is actually quite clever. But I agree with everyone that Bella Ramsey isn't pleasant to look at.

https://media.them.us/photos/653a9d6b61338b10f5c5d9cc/3:4/w_960,h_1280,c_limit/bella-ramsey.jpg

2025-05-14 06:55:29

#1855

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,819|6490|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
mentioning all this crap in the context of the genocide in gaza is obscene. it's like justifying your feelings over the srebrenica massacre by citing the battle of kosovo from 1389 or something. what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic! an ethno-nationalist state doing military occupation and ethnic cleansing in 2025 can be protested and repudiated in perfectly secular, legal terms, without recourse to all this fucking anti-semitic nonsense.

Meanwhile the jews are using your 'pre-historic myths' as justification for what they are doing now.

Fuck Israel

2025-05-14 06:57:02

#1856

uziq: Member; +521|3836

stuff like this just makes you realise, most emphatically, why our supposedly 'enlightened', 'rational', 'high-IQ galaxy brain' STEM peers really could benefit from the fucking most basic humanities training.

like, their ability to analyse and interpret world events, to historicise them and place them in context in a proportional and properly weighted way, or to perceive the sociopolitical or ideological subtexts of people's views – all totally nonexistent. they just grasp at isolated factoids or cite random data they read somewhere, a grab bag with zero coherence.

nobody gets up one morning and decides to go delete an entire neighbourhood, or get up close to the whites of another human being's eyes, and murder them in cold blood because 'oh, my people suffered humiliation in defeat at the battle of vienna in 1683!' that's not how it fucking works. there's always a proximate material cause close at hand. religious or tribal conflict is often explicable in the most worldy way, via simple materialist analysis or by application of a little empirical thinking. this is like high-school history, not grad-school PhD humanities. dilbert isn't so dumb as to not know this stuff; he just likes being obtuse and saying random shit about 'jews and christians' so that he can continue with his ingrown toenail hatreds. see the sartre photo above.

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2025-05-14 06:57:34

#1857

uziq: Member; +521|3836

Dilbert_X wrote:
uziq wrote:
mentioning all this crap in the context of the genocide in gaza is obscene. it's like justifying your feelings over the srebrenica massacre by citing the battle of kosovo from 1389 or something. what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic! an ethno-nationalist state doing military occupation and ethnic cleansing in 2025 can be protested and repudiated in perfectly secular, legal terms, without recourse to all this fucking anti-semitic nonsense.
Meanwhile the jews are using your 'pre-historic myths' as justification for what they are doing now.

learn to read between the lines man. i swear to god. you need to take a course or something.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ideology/#VarIdeCri

Last edited by uziq (2025-05-14 07:03:45)

2025-05-15 03:09:11

#1858

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,819|6490|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
nobody gets up one morning and decides to go delete an entire neighbourhood, or get up close to the whites of another human being's eyes, and murder them in cold blood because 'oh, my people suffered humiliation in defeat at the battle of vienna in 1683!' that's not how it fucking works.

Thats literally exactly what 'Israelis' have been doing in Palestine for the last 120 years.

Plus the biblical stuff which is either:

Myth and no justification for anything

or

Historical fact in which case they stole Palestine in the first place and have 6,000 years of genocide to atone for

In fact its myth or fact depending on what suits them at the time.

Fuck Israel

2025-05-15 03:15:11

#1859

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,819|6490|eXtreme to the maX

On topic - ish:

Watching 'Ancient Black Ops' TV series.

The ones about the Assassins and Spartans were OK.

Learned a lot from the Sicarii.
On the one hand it seems the bit in 'The Life of Bryan' about the suicide squad had some basis in fact.
On the other its interesting that Foxtel is screening documentaries which equate jewish 'freedom fighters' with Al Qaeda and the Israeli occupation of Palestine with the bloody Roman occupation.
Poor Murdoch must be spinning in his grave.

Fuck Israel

2025-05-15 04:34:00

#1860

uziq: Member; +521|3836

amazing how strongly you feel about zionism but evidently don’t know the first thing about 19th century history and the very real material circumstances that went into its founding.

rather than discuss anything substantive you just cite anti-semitic tropes about blood libel and old testament mythology. as if that’s the actual substance of the ethno-state today. as if that’s really what netanyahu believes.

you are dumb. the ‘core’ of zionist ideology and the people who formulated and promulgated it wasn’t a bunch of stuff about the amaleks. ffs

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2025-05-15 07:10:30

#1861

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,819|6490|eXtreme to the maX

So why is Netanyahu invoking the Amalek as an excuse to annihilate the Palestinians and steal their land?

Fuck Israel

2025-05-15 13:13:04

#1862

uziq: Member; +521|3836

because it speaks to the segment of his electorate/that part of israeli society that he has had to enter into coalition with for his own political survival, namely the hard-liners and settlers and militants represented by ben-gvir et al?

it's amazing how literalist you are and how you take everything at face value with no analysis when it gives license to your reflex for jew-hating.

i don't think netanyahu believes in the divine curse placed on the amaleks any more than trump believes in the end-of-days evangelical claptrap that he closes his eyes and links hands with in prayer whenever it suits him. the machinations of contemporary politics are FAR more relevant to these things than fucking ancient abrahamic theology.

and that goes for most of the history of zionism and it's more ardent supporters, tbh. there is a long political lineage here, grounded in worldly matters, that has nothing at all to do with fundamentalist crazies who want to commit ethnic cleansing because of prophecy or whatever.

Last edited by uziq (2025-05-15 13:18:03)

2025-05-16 01:05:51

#1863

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7156|PNW

SuperJail Warden wrote:
I think the narrative of the 2nd game and season is actually quite clever. But I agree with everyone that Bella Ramsey isn't pleasant to look at.

i just looked it up. she's 21. probably a bad look for 30-somethings+ to be lusting after/making pointy elbow comments about someone barely out of their teens, anyway. you teach kids not much younger than she is.

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2025-05-16 03:05:03

#1864

uziq: Member; +521|3836

i think all the mean-spirited comments about actors/actresses like bella ramsey or zendaya are all downstream of toxic manlet incel stuff. time was, talented actors didn't need to be conventionally "hot" or even attractive. having a pin-up in every role is frankly distracting. there is a weird sort of subcurrent of body-fascism at work in all this discourse. and, of course, as ever, most of the people that vociferously partake in such discourse are ugly motherfuckers themselves.

2025-05-16 03:08:46

#1865

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,819|6490|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
and that goes for most of the history of zionism and it's more ardent supporters, tbh. there is a long political lineage here, grounded in worldly matters, that has nothing at all to do with fundamentalist crazies who want to commit ethnic cleansing because of prophecy or whatever.

But the average Israeli fully supports the actions of the 'fundamentalist crazies', then they buy condos built on the stolen land thus sealing the deal.

Doesn't that make them all crazies and ethnic cleansers?

Fuck Israel

2025-05-16 03:10:56

#1866

uziq: Member; +521|3836

it makes them guilty of ethnic cleansing and contributing to a settler-colonial project, yes.

which, like i said, can be criticised and condemned via any number of perfectly sane, secular, legal arguments.

why are you invoking the amaleks and killing of christ? it makes you look stupid when you reach for anti-semitic blood libels and fire-and-brimstone jew hating in order to criticise a very clearly appalling political situation.

2025-05-16 06:20:59

#1867

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +657|4104

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
SuperJail Warden wrote:
I think the narrative of the 2nd game and season is actually quite clever. But I agree with everyone that Bella Ramsey isn't pleasant to look at.
i just looked it up. she's 21. probably a bad look for 30-somethings+ to be lusting after/making pointy elbow comments about someone barely out of their teens, anyway. you teach kids not much younger than she is.

I am not sexualizing the lady old enough to buy liquor. She is literally autistic and looks it. It genuinely strains me to sit and watch her do anything.

https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/63eaa0d80e61f0afc810021f/master/pass/GettyImages-1455401068.jpg

The Zendaya stuff is related to the fact that she is dating Spiderman. I assume most of the negative comments about her are coming from other women.

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/rexfeatures_5528380lf.jpg

2025-05-16 06:43:44

#1868

uziq: Member; +521|3836

there's a very vocal element on elon musk's X which objects to zendaya because she doesn't conform to their reactionary concept of beauty. 'the lib woke mind virus are planting ugly women in our superhero movies to try and convince us this is normal', 'why does everyone in hollywood now have non-aryan-shaped craniums', etc. etc.

2025-05-16 07:23:19

#1869

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +657|4104

Yeah, I think the racism is pretty obvious. In regards to Zendaya I think the guys on social media who talk about her being ugly are in fact deep incel. You can't be in the same room with a girl like this and not for a moment wonder what she would be like in bed.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/zendayablondehair-661395e0de66a.jpg?resize=980:*

I remember a lot of the guys on this forum back in the day talking about how they aren't attracted to any non-white women. And that is just weird and incel.

2025-05-16 11:27:38

#1870

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7156|PNW

aging leo receives increasing scrutiny about his cradle-robbing attachment to <25s. probably best not to go down that road. nip this in the bud, mac! don't reduce yourself to scrutinizing young women in mushroom zombie tv shows or stuff like taking measurements of the eye spacing of a 3d model in star wars video games.

instead, ask if she pays taxes. become preoccupied with the success of her social life. officials under trump 47 want to know!

2025-05-16 12:15:21

#1871

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +657|4104

I am not going to be one of those guys who leave negative comments on Instagram reels. But I refuse to buy into any nonsense that says I can't date or admire younger adults.

2025-05-16 12:26:33

#1872

uziq: Member; +521|3836

i don't see anything wrong with being attracted to 21-25 year olds. that seems like normal functioning human biology, to me.

recognising the increasing maturity gap and inappropriateness of hijacking their life or hitching their wagon to yours, however, is another matter.

and people being mean or rude to borderline adolescents/young adults just seems like plain bullying and miserliness. let Lorde say stupid shit or billy eilish experiment with bisexuality or whatever. yes it's cringe and obviously stupid ... but they're like 23 years old. we have been arguing over videogames on the internet for almost as long as they've been alive. now who is truly stupid? the pile-on is tedious.

i don't really think zendaya is 'attractive' or anything above average but i wish her well anyway. i judge her far more harshly for some of her questionable movies. she's not halle berry good looking but then again she's not making halle berry levels of bad movies, either. who can have strong feelings about this stuff, one way or the other?

Last edited by uziq (2025-05-16 12:29:28)

2025-05-16 12:50:02

#1873

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7156|PNW

no problems here if people want to build actual relationships across the generational expanse and work around various other problems. consenting adults doing consenting adult things, perfectly valid. it's the online prattle from strangers scoring recently-legal celebrities just seems very incel and highly creepy, though. things that make you go bleagh.

2025-05-16 13:04:04

#1874

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +657|4104

Lorde is almost 30.

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