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i'm sure you're correct, but it's still mind-blowing watching it happen in real time. that the people who purport themselves Very Educated on that evil, evil period of history also sit with their thumbs up their asses, willfully, actively blind while parallels are firing off one after the other. i imagine some have watched Triumph of the Will so many times that they've developed a soft spot for that stuff (for all they insist hitler & co. were evil men).

for others, i think it's party tribalism predating neo-nazis stepping more into the open in terms of recent years. i do get blank stares sometimes when i respond that if their hypothetical democrat politician is convicted of an imprisonable offense that yes, they should go to prison. can almost see the gears shift as they fumble for a new direction.

didn't some of these guys say they were buying guns and ammo to deter authoritarianism? that's what i was hearing through waco, ruby ridge. was that all just conversational bloviation?

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2025-05-01 15:07:37)

Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

i think these people don't mind the whole hitler thing actually. the vibe is shifting. neo-nazis don't have to dissimulate anymore. the people on the dilbert_x/scott adams pipeline are becoming less and less abashed about their weird eroto-libidinal fascinations with hitler and nazis in polished leather boots.

Imagine being told your whole life that you're thinking the wrong thoughts, then you wake up one day and find the AMERICAN PRESIDENT is thinking those same thoughts.

uuuh, yeah, i dunno man. personally i still think neo-nazism is fundamentally bad and wrong-headed. not sure that a sociopathic quintuple-bankrupt perma-tanned sleazeball would validate or bring respectability to that worldview either.

people are regularly marching through US state capitals with swastika flags and their faces covered. let’s just say that’s Bad, actually, and nothing good will ever come of it.

people on musk’s X now regularly discuss race IQ and eugenics. all this codswallop is being dragged back from the seedy undergrowth into the overton window. it’s disinformation in the same way any other sort of bullshit and propaganda operates. it has as much scientific validity as RFK’s statements on vaccines. nazism on the first go around was also full of these kooky beliefs and woo scientists.

Last edited by uziq (2025-05-02 03:06:06)

I think the Neo-Nazi marching in America is a sign of weakness, dysfunction, and decline rather than some groundswell of fascism.

These marches are much less common than they may seem in your media. The marches usually happen around college towns and other safe places. They don't march in major blue cities since they would get violent reactions. They don't march in the massive cities full of ethnic minorities.

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Picking up Nazi iconography just shows you how lost these guys are. The Nazis lost the war. 99% of the Nazis victims were other white people. It is a political dead end.

Frankly the Nazi marching stuff all seems low class. It is what you do when you don't have the money and connections to go to the fancy MAGA events.

uziq wrote:

what do i define as neo-nazism? erm, explicitly white supremacist groups waving around swastikas sounds close to neo-nazism to me.

Well, one man's fascist racism is another man's patriotism.

I think its cute that in the US the neo-Nazis and and Zionists have both climbed into bed with Trump, and that they're using fascism to protect Zionist fascist racism - literally abducting people off the street for saying that Zionism is fascism.

Not only that but Rubio is telling the Germans they should stop being so fascist and allow the AfD fascists to exercise their political freedoms.

Fun times.

They do know the Palantirs were used for evil?

it was (recently) suggested to me to start a company with one of these tolkienien names that would make pointy-eared hugo weaving rub his temples in literal pain.

the concern that not every palantir was accounted for, leaving the system ripe for abuse, flies over so many of the heads of tech-nerd tolkien buffs (or they don't care, and darth vader is cool and tie fighters go scree; see also the ai trump with a sith lightsaber(?!)). that use of a palantir could hotwire your brain to unambiguous devil-figure escaped the notice of the self-crossing, faux-catholic, big-surveillance buff who was like "maybe come up with something like palantir." didn't they see it try and dominate pippin? not actually avoiding the appearance of evil, here!

as the least offensive thing about all this, seemingly no depth of understanding of their own comic book fantopics. marvel and star trek are traditionally woke, and there was a reason gandalf threw a cloth over the pondering orb.

next up: america(n energy) unleashed! Isengard Lumber est. 2027 to chop down every last tree in our national parks. orthanc tower as hq, a blot on the skyline of some unfortunate us city. musk appointed chair, attends meetings in white bathrobe.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2025-05-13 09:06:53)

rofl. it seems elon has not so subtly recalibrated the Grok AI bot to ‘talk more about the problems facing white people in south africa’.



subtle!

I just came back from a political dinner. Basically you put on a suit, they feed you dinner, you listen to some speeches and they thank you for all of the work you have done.

If anyone wants to pick my brain about how it works at this level feel free. There is one thing I noticed: In the speeches the leaders told stories about their nieces and nephews. They didn't mention heart warming (fake) stories about their own children. They don't have children. They were able to claw to the top of these organizations because they could put in the time and resources. It is all participatory.

That implications of that are interesting to think about.

"how it works at this level", lmao, what - the school system of new jersey?

you're basically part of your local rotary club. it's not exactly the white house correspondents' dinner, man.

and yeah, the people who have the time and resources to go into politics are normally upper-middle class types or childless climbers. running for any sort of office, at least in the UK, normally means you can go without a real job or income for like a year and a half. you have to take a really long running jump at electoral politics.

Last edited by uziq (2025-05-16 03:08:40)

i have declared my fealty to the showa emperor. the one true god !

i'll play the long game. stick it out for 2.5 years until the japanese peterson develops a debilitating benzo problem and then watches his daughter get plowed by a dysgenic kickboxer from luton.



then i truly will inherit the earth.

got an overabundance of blue results, circle-jerking organizers, and election sign wavers in my county. i'm not exactly in a hurry to transplant myself to eastern washington or texas or wherever the hell you are that needs so much help to argue with even more trumpers than i already do about how they should be getting more health care and less doge. only so much mental bandwidth my dude, and i actually like living on this side of the cascades.