It's not like Obama or Biden caused the housing crash or Covid, this is purely on the new admin.
this meeting between trump/vance and zelensky is a car crash of world-historical badness. one of the worst diplomatic exchanges i have ever seen.
what the trump admin were hoping to achieve by cutting zelensky out of the earliest negotiations and presenting him with a shakedown for half his country’s mineral wealth, i don’t know.
it honestly seems like they’re talking to him and expecting him to beg and kiss their feet. a really revolting spectacle.
strange times. the cold war order flipped on its head. trump’s representative at the UN basically voting as a bloc with … north korea and belarus to help russia fuck over ukraine.
i know this whole ‘haha, let’s watch flyover america fuck itself over by voting for oligarchs to stomp on them’ is a masochistic lark, but really your country is basically turning its back on the entire post-ww2 world order. forget skeptical readings of an overweening NATO or undercontributing EU. there’s a place to register those complaints. but right now the trump admin are caving in to putin’s wildest dreams.
what happened to ‘the art of the deal’?
what the trump admin were hoping to achieve by cutting zelensky out of the earliest negotiations and presenting him with a shakedown for half his country’s mineral wealth, i don’t know.
it honestly seems like they’re talking to him and expecting him to beg and kiss their feet. a really revolting spectacle.
strange times. the cold war order flipped on its head. trump’s representative at the UN basically voting as a bloc with … north korea and belarus to help russia fuck over ukraine.
i know this whole ‘haha, let’s watch flyover america fuck itself over by voting for oligarchs to stomp on them’ is a masochistic lark, but really your country is basically turning its back on the entire post-ww2 world order. forget skeptical readings of an overweening NATO or undercontributing EU. there’s a place to register those complaints. but right now the trump admin are caving in to putin’s wildest dreams.
what happened to ‘the art of the deal’?
Last edited by uziq (2025-02-28 10:36:01)
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +648|4027
I don't know what else you want me to do. I knocked on doors, phone banked, donated my time and money. I got involved with advocacy groups. I can show you dozens of photos of me at political events working.
The people we were advocating for didn't show up. They didn't show up to the rallies and the meetings. They didn't show up to the voting booth.
The (fake) Catholic part of me tells me I need to suck it up and try again since "they know not what they do." But whatever.
...
There was a comment on the National Review that was the top comment IRT to Trump/Ukraine. It went like "50 years from now no one will remember or care about the economy of 2025. They will remember how we threw out allies under the bus though."
The people we were advocating for didn't show up. They didn't show up to the rallies and the meetings. They didn't show up to the voting booth.
The (fake) Catholic part of me tells me I need to suck it up and try again since "they know not what they do." But whatever.
...
There was a comment on the National Review that was the top comment IRT to Trump/Ukraine. It went like "50 years from now no one will remember or care about the economy of 2025. They will remember how we threw out allies under the bus though."
deserves a strong highlight, i think. correlation!=causation, yada yada, but this is a fairly common factor in a lot of my conversations with the trump side fresh from recent months, and "i don't have the time/patience" would lead into justification of the trump vote (see also: "i didn't vote for harris because i didn't agree with or understand harris." "did you listen to her speeches?" "no." "did you even listen to trump's speeches? how did you understand anything he was saying?" "i didn't listen to those, either").uziq wrote:
impatience with the boring analysis and discussion of ordinary democratic political process
mention of "AP" or "Reuters" for political light-reading (you cannot suggest a book—it's a miracle if they even read a texted/linked article to comment on it) draws a sneer and audible scoff despite the fact that these aren't left-wing fox. there's a knee-jerk rejection of any and all things 'expert' without conservative endorsement, or a presenting of one or oneself as "alternative expertise."
like that forestry person you linked who got her face eaten by a leopard, their minds will never be changed except through the poetic, personal tragedy of reaping the consequences of their error. for now though, i think distractions like "gulf of america" will continue to generate chortles among those who enjoy the chaos.
all this didn't just generate out of nowhere. we've had decades of building oppositional defiance. i don't particularly enjoy the idea of red states suffering because of trump. but that the non trumpers of america and the world get to suffer because of it is more regrettable?
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2025-02-28 12:39:27)
imagine: deal signed. trump, proud and victorious, holds up the napkin zelenskyy signed promising a share of ukraine's "raw earth."
the best negotiator.
the best negotiator.
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +648|4027
The same people would be complaining that he was wearing a suit while he is supposed to be a war time president.uziq wrote:
https://x.com/drewharwell/status/1895547272324387078?s=46&t=QE4_6VQStUJ77OKnIcMVqg
related. lmao jesus christ.
I get why he does it wear a suit. Because he's a wartime president.
i mean, yeah, the semiotics of it aren't particularly deep nor interesting.SuperJail Warden wrote:
The same people would be complaining that he was wearing a suit while he is supposed to be a war time president.uziq wrote:
https://x.com/drewharwell/status/1895547272324387078?s=46&t=QE4_6VQStUJ77OKnIcMVqg
related. lmao jesus christ.
I get why he does it wear a suit. Because he's a wartime president.
elon musk doesn't wear a suit when he's addressing cabinet or mooching around the white house. nor does senator fetterman when he's denying genocide.
weird that an alt-right media plant was allowed to ask such a random ass question during such a moment of geopolitical importance. you get entry to the inner sanctum of the munich agreement 1938 and you ask chamberlain why he doesn't have his top button done up? the new right-wing and their talking points/culture wars are so fucking retarded.
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +648|4027
I have seen on the NR boards how some are angry he doesn't wear a suit to the white house. It is Chinese Imperial bullshit. I bet Republicans will be bowing to Trump by the end of all of this.
I never liked Fetterman. Senator Slingblade
The child thing is him trying to promote the kid as the next generation of his whatever.
I don't like being around small children. The kid thing probably works on some people though.
None of this has the seriousness of Richelieu or Metternich. It is all going to end badly. I think it all ends in violence. You can't fuck over so many people without someone trying to fuck you harder.
I never liked Fetterman. Senator Slingblade
The child thing is him trying to promote the kid as the next generation of his whatever.
I don't like being around small children. The kid thing probably works on some people though.
None of this has the seriousness of Richelieu or Metternich. It is all going to end badly. I think it all ends in violence. You can't fuck over so many people without someone trying to fuck you harder.
A Study of Mint Plants. A Device to Stop Bleeding. This Is the Scientific Research Ted Cruz Calls “Woke.”
The senator flagged thousands of National Science Foundation grants for using words like “female” and “diversify.” A ProPublica analysis found numerous examples of projects caught up in his crude method for identifying research he calls “woke.”
i recently talked to a maga conservative (this came up out of nowhere) from texas who acknowledged that ted cruz is a slime. how bad do you gotta be.
The senator flagged thousands of National Science Foundation grants for using words like “female” and “diversify.” A ProPublica analysis found numerous examples of projects caught up in his crude method for identifying research he calls “woke.”
make it stopsnip wrote:
A few months ago, Sen. Ted Cruz announced that he had uncovered $2 billion of science grants funded by former President Joe Biden’s administration that prioritized “radical political perspectives” or “neo-Marxist theories.’’ His aides on a congressional committee assembled the list by searching the project descriptions for 699 key terms like “women,” “diversify,” “segregation” and “Hispanic culture.”
When Cruz released the database of this allegedly “woke” research earlier this month, we decided to run our own experiment. We asked one of the models powering ChatGPT, which can sift through large amounts of data, to evaluate all 3,500 grant descriptions in the database as if it were an investigative journalist looking for Marxist propaganda, “woke ideology,” or diversity, equity and inclusion. The model tried to give us descriptions of how each project might fit those themes. We were particularly interested in the grants where it came up blank. We then read through the researchers’ full summaries of those and many other grants, including each one described in this story, looking for references to some of the keywords on the list.
[…]
more: https://www.propublica.org/article/ted- … foundation
i recently talked to a maga conservative (this came up out of nowhere) from texas who acknowledged that ted cruz is a slime. how bad do you gotta be.
why fund the NSF? we have known the answers to everything for 2000 years now. we don’t need any more studies or meta-studies or long boring papers with lots of footnotes. it’s a time for action!
wrap up all forms of disinterested research and funnel all the money to musk man’s ventures. trust the plan! action! oo-rah!
wrap up all forms of disinterested research and funnel all the money to musk man’s ventures. trust the plan! action! oo-rah!
America is being run according to the instructions of a stone-age penis-mutilating cult - science is redundant.
Also, when was the last time President Musk wore a suit to the Oval Office?
Also, when was the last time President Musk wore a suit to the Oval Office?
Fuck Israel
trump's followers behave pretty much like youtuber's toxic following. they'll just go along with whatever team trump is saying or doing or hating or endlessly changing their minds on, without applying any of their own critical thought to the whole mess. some realize what's going on in their brains, and simply don't care. others deny they ever thought different. it's rot.
it's pretty rich when a fired, federal trumper posts some plea to social media to trump to reinstate their job. it's probably a generalization to say they only cared about people getting hurt when they became one of them, but…come on. hshwgtdi
it's pretty rich when a fired, federal trumper posts some plea to social media to trump to reinstate their job. it's probably a generalization to say they only cared about people getting hurt when they became one of them, but…come on. hshwgtdi