Thank you for being a good sport.
What did they look like?
What did they look like?

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Stuff like that is usually painted as "anti-business," even "anti-worker," which in a certain way of thinking may be true._j5689_ wrote:
California actually introduced a bill to change the definition of fulltime to be 32 hours instead of 40 in the state, meaning anything over that would be be paid out as overtime, in an effort to incentivize more companies to adopt the new 32 hour workweek that some European countries are switching to. But I don't think the bill ultimately ever went anywhere.
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Sounds to me like you hate freedom_j5689_ wrote:
Yeah, this country's view of work and what we get from it is very very broken and out of line with how things should be. There is so much basic stuff that Europe has already had guaranteed(3-4 weeks vacation time, universal healthcare, higher minimum wages, guaranteed pensions/retirement) for at least a decade or more regardless of where you work, and none of that appears to be a priority here at all for the foreseeable future. It's extremely depressing to me. I don't believe you should have to be super ambitious, or take 4+ years of college, or be good at negotiation, or work exactly the right job in order to make a liveable wage and have good benefits and guaranteed vacation time. Everybody should have them. But instead we all just keep enabling this country to be a corporate shithole where cheap, easily manipulated labor is the top political priority, and socialism is reserved only for rich people, banks and large corporations.
i definitely can’t edit or do anything requiring intensive attention for more than about 25-30 hours a week. my quality drops off drastically after that (or i spend more and more hours shitposting on here).Dilbert_X wrote:
Beyond 40 hours/wk productivity drops quickly, in a creative job there's really no point working past 50 hrs
Mundane tasks are different, you can just slog away and rack up the hours and output.
Depends on the job, I crush concrete with an excavator 8-12 hours a day with an average output of 30 tonnes of extracted steel.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
"Mundane tasks" also suffer from reduced quality in overwork.
True, there are some things you can just power through. I wouldn't want to be operating heavy machinery while groggy though. Mundane tasks that require a degree of craftsmanship are more what I was talking about.Chou wrote:
Depends on the job, I crush concrete with an excavator 8-12 hours a day with an average output of 30 tonnes of extracted steel.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
"Mundane tasks" also suffer from reduced quality in overwork.
In this case, it's mind over matter and believe me, it is a mundane task, so they say.
Like painting a Mona Lisa?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
True, there are some things you can just power through. I wouldn't want to be operating heavy machinery while groggy though. Mundane tasks that require a degree of craftsmanship are more what I was talking about.Chou wrote:
Depends on the job, I crush concrete with an excavator 8-12 hours a day with an average output of 30 tonnes of extracted steel.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
"Mundane tasks" also suffer from reduced quality in overwork.
In this case, it's mind over matter and believe me, it is a mundane task, so they say.
Like what?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Mundane tasks that require a degree of craftsmanship are more what I was talking about.