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unnamednewbie13
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That's the cop-out description, but it's not too far off imo.

Side note, I don't know how I'd feel about my ancestors from a few centuries back being analogized to a race of giant blue cat girls who have hair-sex with pterodactyls. An uncomfortable two hours maybe.
_j5689_
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I think they were just kinda hoping that a few hundred million people somehow wouldn't make the connection, and that way you can save some money on a good writer by repurposing the basic story, and adding 3D hardcore pseudo-furry porn to appeal to that undoubtedly content-starved market.

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unnamednewbie13
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How content starved are furries though? Robin Hood was animated in the 70s. Sword in the Stone like a decade earlier. Lion King was straight up, unapologetic lions. Then there's the internet full of stuff even furries probably don't want to see. There's a whole history of the furry scene in modern context. Convention history in general as a recent phenomenon can be interesting reads or vids.

Dilbert maintains on the contrary though that cavemen and egyptians were furries.

_j5689_
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Avatar has an explicitly hardcore furry sex scene though, and in fully rendered 3D.  I doubt furries have ever been gifted something that great by mainstream media, or at least not before that point in time.  If you think about it, furries were probably the only ones who felt something other than pure awkwardness when watching that sex scene in theaters.
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You may have a point, although boomers unironically into Twilight enjoyed every aspect of Avatar. Furries, like dilbert, probably wished the aliens were more cat-like.

I had a boomer ask me about Avatar TLA because they heard about it on facebook. I hadn't seen either the movie or the cartoon, so didn't really have an answer for them. It's weird that someone who I know has a bias against cartoons would express an interest in a cartoon. Or they didn't know it was a cartoon.

There are about a dozen adventure-y 'toons I could have referred them to at the time, but didn't bother because I knew they'd wrinkle their nose at the first ten seconds. I have no idea what the issue is with people who watch vampire/werewolf crap, effects-a-thons, and purely CGI movies (even low budget ones), yet won't give any number of critically acclaimed or cult-success traditional work a chance unless it's old Disney or familiar episodes of Looney Tunes or something. Mind-boggling.
_j5689_
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If they were looking to turn around their own opinion on anime by experimenting, they could do a lot worse than starting out with Avatar: The Last Airbender.  It really was an awesome series, I think it could potentially be enjoyable even if you're not a kid but that might just be nostalgia talking.

Everything I've heard about the live-action movie indicated that it was garbage though, so I probably wouldn't bother with that one.
unnamednewbie13
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Some people will only stomach that weird japanese ah-knee-may if it's repackaged Ghibli tricking them into seeing it.

those people: "This stuff is too weird!"
also those people: *goes to watch a zombie detective soap opera*

I don't really have the time to argue them into broadening their horizons into that direction, and to be honest a lot of it doesn't really give me the inclination. Close my eyes and hit a target on the anime dartboard. Loooots of pass in those summaries, giving them I suppose half a point if they weren't already into their own live action weird shit.

An old person at a family viewing had a disgusted reaction upon seeing that the new Addams Family was a (new) cartoon, then relaxed once realizing it was 3d animation. I'm not going to go to bat for that movie, but wtf.

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unnamedfurrie13 wrote:

Dilbert maintains on the contrary though that cavemen and egyptians were furries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7PJQa1RfM0
Its a fact
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

How content starved are furries though? Robin Hood was animated in the 70s. Sword in the Stone like a decade earlier. Lion King was straight up, unapologetic lions. Then there's the internet full of stuff even furries probably don't want to see. There's a whole history of the furry scene in modern context. Convention history in general as a recent phenomenon can be interesting reads or vids.

Dilbert maintains on the contrary though that cavemen and egyptians were furries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7PJQa1RfM0
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unnamednewbie13
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Batman's contingency plans against superheroes are way more draconian than stuff he does to supervillains.
unnamednewbie13
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Ghostbusters: Afterlife
"Bill Murray doesn't make out with any 20yos" / 10

Strictly watchable in base form, should see if you have any sort of nostalgic attachments to the original. Plot-compatible with Ghostbusters: The Video Game (2009), which itself was written by Ramis and Aykroyd. Lots of little lore nods and fan services if you like easter egg hunts.

It could have used more ghosts. The movie lacked the sort of thing the first two had where a bunch of ghosts manifest all at once and cause chaos all over town, all those neat creatures with like 5 seconds of screen time, and scenes like ghost ship Titanic offloading its ghost passengers.

Afterlife had a cool slimer-type creature that reminded me of a water bear, some ghost telekinesis, dracula mist, flying balls of light, and a pretty chill skeleton at a diner. The bad guy at the end should have honestly arrived on an utter hurricane of ghosts, but nope, straight into it.



e: Two stingers: mid credits, and after credits. Urrrrgh.

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Das Boot - Remastered, saw it in the cinema

Still fairly good, I've seen it a few times, 3+ hours is fairly bloody long.
Really the directors cut adds almost nothing compared with the standard cinematic release.
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Dilbert_X
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Operation Mincemeat 6.5/10

Great production, story was unnecessarily padded with relationship intrigue.
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SuperJail Warden
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The Godfather

7/10

Finally got around to watching the whole thing. I understand most mafia movie tropes started with this movie and that really isn't the fault of the movie. It is also not the movie's fault that I have seen bits and pieces of it a million times. But the movie is a slog. I don't think it aged well. I think you really need to be committed to studying film to sit through the 3 hours to get through it. It isn't exciting or enthralling.
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unnamednewbie13
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You spent all this time promoting Sopranos but only now got around to Godfather, wtf.

Watch part 2. Usually seems to be people's favorite.
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I have seen the entire Godfather movie just not all in order and at once. I already have done the same with the second one.
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unnamednewbie13
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Didn't you blow a gasket when I mentioned seeing chunks of Sopranos in clip format?

Keep us updated if you decide to read the book.
SuperJail Warden
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No that was Uzique who yelled at you. Also stop repeating yourself.
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It's interesting that you could be glued to like 30+ hours of pick-a-zombie show but a 2 or 3hr movie, in a subject that interests you, is just too grueling. At least my nth time in wonderment at how people can just watch zombies after zombies after zombies.

Godfather is supposed to be boring to middle schoolers. You're well into dad-age, just coming out of a constant diet of tendies.

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JoJo Rabbit 8/10. For a comedy, it had serious emotional moments especially towards the end as well as sadden you a bit such innocence being indoctrinated. I was surprised with this film.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It's interesting that you could be glued to like 30+ hours of pick-a-zombie show but a 2 or 3hr movie, in a subject that interests you, is just too grueling. At least my nth time in wonderment at how people can just watch zombies after zombies after zombies.

Godfather is supposed to be boring to middle schoolers. You're well into dad-age, just coming out of a constant diet of tendies.

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i'm not
I actually watched the Godfather because the film class I share a space with showed the movie to the kids.

Other thoughts...you could see how much movie making changed in the 50 years between '72 and '22. The movie covers a period of 10 years but it is easy to miss the few details that explain the time jump. It also doesn't do too great a job explaining certain things or introducing certain characters.

Overall I don't think the movie aged well. It isn't that it aged poorly because it is offensive now or something but movie making has improved in a lot of ways since it was released.
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unnamednewbie13
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I'd be interested to hear you expound on why you think that. Usually you hear the opposite, that Godfather has aged well as a film. IMO, perfect conditions for aging well. Period piece, no lavish Avatar CGI to become obsolete, no Back to the Future syndrome where people get to laugh at what movie makers in the 80s thought the 2020s or w/e would be like. I do think a lot of films age well, but some require certain viewing moods that not all viewers allow themselves.
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Macbeth has terrible taste in film. No need to rationalize or get him to explain his tastes.

Let him discard the severed horse head and embrace the barbed bat.

The original Godfather is easily a top 100 film of all time. I'd put it into my top 20, maybe even top 10.
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I'm done with gangster glorification films thank you.
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unnamednewbie13
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Were you ever into them in the first place enough (or at all) to be done with them? Back in the big Sopranos thread you told us you didn't like the genre.

Your preferences your rules I guess but it is funny that you put superpowered vigilantes and deeply flawed musicals on a pedestal, and then fold your arms in disdain at anything of deeper value and lauded storytelling.

I'd be interested to hear the reasons you think Godfather glorifies the mafia. Do you think it's enthusiastically intentional, or just a side effect from telling these characters' stories and connecting the audience with them?

People rooted for Walter White in full knowledge that what he was doing was bad. It broke 10 million viewers with season 5, but how many people do you think decided to sell meth and order hits sheerly because of Breaking Bad?

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